Tuesday 21st April 2015

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:12 pm

'Labour hate people who get up early and go to work': Iain Duncan Smith attacks Miliband's 'politics of hate and envy'
Work and Pensions Secretary hailed the Tories as 'the real party of work'
Said Miliband is standing on 'most Left-wing platform since Michael Foot'
Urged fellow Conservatives to champion the Government's achievements
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -envy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here we go. We seem to have reached page 4 of the Crosby Manual of Vitriolics.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:15 pm

danesclose wrote:Latest YouGov not at all exciting:

Latest YouGov poll (20 - 21 Apr):
CON - 35% (+1)
LAB - 34% (-1)
UKIP - 13% (-)
LDEM - 7% (-)
GRN - 5% (-)

So all the hinting was about a poll that changed well within the margin of error?

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:16 pm

danesclose wrote:Latest YouGov not at all exciting:

Latest YouGov poll (20 - 21 Apr):
CON - 35% (+1)
LAB - 34% (-1)
UKIP - 13% (-)
LDEM - 7% (-)
GRN - 5% (-)

That Sun bloke is a Grade A1 Wanker.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:17 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Rebecca wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: Cripes.
Thought you might like to know that my cat just thanked you for the post!Didn't know she is into politics.
They're little .......ers, aren't they? My smallest varmint is squirming around on the desk as I type, smearing wet chops all over my mouse hand and turning caps lock on and off, on and off ...

Wow, when did they start transplanting hands with mice ? Doesn't the tail get in the way ?

I'm in pain & getting a tad hysterical I think so you'll be mighty pleased to learn I'm off to bed.....

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:18 pm

frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)

This isn't the one the Sun political team were getting so excited about?

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:20 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
danesclose wrote:Latest YouGov not at all exciting:

Latest YouGov poll (20 - 21 Apr):
CON - 35% (+1)
LAB - 34% (-1)
UKIP - 13% (-)
LDEM - 7% (-)
GRN - 5% (-)
That Sun bloke is a Grade A1 Wanker.

That Sun bloke is currently talking bollocks on the World Tonight.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:20 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)
This isn't the one the Sun political team were getting so excited about?

Yep.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:21 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

I'm off to bed. "Who Could Ask For Anything More?" Try not to have nightmares . . . .

Night PF

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:22 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
emily m ‏@maitlis 8m8 minutes ago
We invited the political parties to join us but the Conservatives were unable to find anyone to speak on their welfare record. #newsnight
Try Nick Clegg Emily ... he might be really keen to do it.

Emily Maitlis' tweet could look good on a poster

Sadly a bit long for a t-shirt

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:22 pm

frightful_oik wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
danesclose wrote:Latest YouGov not at all exciting:

Latest YouGov poll (20 - 21 Apr):
CON - 35% (+1)
LAB - 34% (-1)
UKIP - 13% (-)
LDEM - 7% (-)
GRN - 5% (-)
That Sun bloke is a Grade A1 Wanker.
That Sun bloke is currently talking bollocks on the World Tonight.

Really what is the muppet saying?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:22 pm

frightful_oik wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)
This isn't the one the Sun political team were getting so excited about?

Yep.

Blimey. Desperation.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:23 pm

Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 2m2 minutes ago
As @LouiseMensch would ask that I report it: MASSIVE Tory surge in new @YouGov poll as Cameron soars to 1% lead over Labour. Awesome.

Tim Montgomerie appears to share our underwhelm.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:24 pm

frightful_oik wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)
This isn't the one the Sun political team were getting so excited about?
Yep.

I don't think they have a politics team, they have a propaganda team. Tom is Murdoch's arse licker in chief.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:25 pm

Spacedone wrote:
Tim Montgomerie ن ‏@montie 2m2 minutes ago
As @LouiseMensch would ask that I report it: MASSIVE Tory surge in new @YouGov poll as Cameron soars to 1% lead over Labour. Awesome.
Tim Montgomerie appears to share our underwhelm.

Is it wrong to like Tim just a tiny bit?

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:26 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote: That Sun bloke is a Grade A1 Wanker.
That Sun bloke is currently talking bollocks on the World Tonight.
Really what is the muppet saying?

Bad news for Ed on the Scottish question "8% may change the way they vote so there's potentially an 8% swing to the Tories." Only there isn't. Shocking from the lefty World Tonight allowing Tory themes to remove everything else from the election campaign.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:26 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: This isn't the one the Sun political team were getting so excited about?
Yep.
I don't think they have a politics team, they have a propaganda team. Tom is Murdoch's arse licker in chief.

that's the core of it though isn't it. we hardy have a press any more - just propaganda.
Grim.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:26 pm

caity ‏@russellhowhard 1h1 hour ago

#milifandom is trending we MADE IT

Hah. The young are responsible for this trend...Bloody brilliant. They might be beginners but it's a brilliant way to introduce them to politics.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:29 pm

Stephen Timms ‏@stephenctimms 55m55 minutes ago

Travelled to Central London for @BBCNewsnight welfare debate. But Tories refused to provide a representative, so it's cancelled!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:30 pm

Lucy Powell retweeted
Mirror Politics ‏@MirrorPolitics 10m10 minutes ago
'Ashamed' Tories quit Newsnight welfare debate at the last moment http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/as ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Last line of that article is 'The Conservatives could not be contacted for comment.'

How poor is that ....

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:30 pm

Scotland will be gone by the weekend.

There's only so much of the "We're doooomed!!" that the Tories can run with before people start to question whether it's faked.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:30 pm

frightful_oik wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
frightful_oik wrote: That Sun bloke is currently talking bollocks on the World Tonight.
Really what is the muppet saying?
Bad news for Ed on the Scottish question "8% may change the way they vote so there's potentially an 8% swing to the Tories." Only there isn't. Shocking from the lefty World Tonight allowing Tory themes to remove everything else from the election campaign.

Presumably 8% may change the way they vote on a whole host of things. Put it another way 92% of the population just went meh.

So below the NHS, Immigration, the economy and Nigel Farage's weird expressions as campaign issues.

Tomorrow the uptick needs to continue for that to be valid, but we may also see the backlash from Cameron being attacked by his own party.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:32 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Scotland will be gone by the weekend.

There's only so much of the "We're doooomed!!" that the Tories can run with before people start to question whether it's faked.

Christ that bloody Sturgeon works fast.

No wonder she is so dangerous.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:34 pm

David Cameron’s controversial right-to-buy policy was last night branded a “hypocritical bribe and a sham” after it was revealed that even a Tory housing minister questioned whether it could work.

In a letter to Lib Dem MP Tessa Munt in 2013, Tory Housing Minister Kris Hopkins admitted the policy would lead to a “high liability for the public purse”.

Revealing the letter to attack the Tories, Ms Munt said: “This is nothing more than a cynical attempt by an increasingly desperate Tory party to bribe the electorate.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/da ... ed-5556472

It's all unravelling.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:36 pm

frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)

That's not it, surely :headhands: After all that build-up and all that fuss we get cons up one!? Ach...

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:38 pm

Just seen the first "I voted for" wiz passed my time line... (not putting who although its a public profile, no one in public eye)

"Just voted in my first general election, (surprisingly) for @AnasSarwar. "

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:40 pm

LadyCentauria wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)
That's not it, surely :headhands: After all that build-up and all that fuss we get cons up one!? Ach...

After the rocket Murdoch sent up his employees to go after Labour I expect we'll be seeing more lies and exaggeration. Now we're forewarned. Anything claims they make over the coming weeks are likely to be bollocks... more so than usual I mean.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:41 pm

LadyCentauria wrote:
frightful_oik wrote:YouGov:
CON – 35% (+1)
LAB – 34% (-1)
UKIP – 13% (-)
LDEM – 7% (-)
GRN – 5% (-)
That's not it, surely :headhands: After all that build-up and all that fuss we get cons up one!? Ach...

As I said Tom Newton-Dunn massive Wanker

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:41 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
'Labour hate people who get up early and go to work': Iain Duncan Smith attacks Miliband's 'politics of hate and envy'
Work and Pensions Secretary hailed the Tories as 'the real party of work'
Said Miliband is standing on 'most Left-wing platform since Michael Foot'
Urged fellow Conservatives to champion the Government's achievements
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -envy.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here we go. We seem to have reached page 4 of the Crosby Manual of Vitriolics.

What, "champion the Government's achievements" by not going on Newsnight to defend your own record Mr (allegedly) Iain Duncan Smith!?

Woot!!! Newsnight just called the Bedroom Tax "the Under-Occupancy Penalty." And Emily Maitlis just said they'd invited the Conservatives to the Welfare Debate "but they didn't want to put anyone forward to defend their record." Triple 'woot'

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:47 pm

Just going back to that "DC wanted out" tweet....how long would it have been before a leadership contest?

We know that it wasn't going to be 2020 - more like 2019 or 2018.

This makes it sound like it would have been a lot sooner - maybe even before an EU referendum?

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:52 pm

No doubt this'll be headline news in the media for the next 24 hours...

Hundreds of police officers sign open letter warning Tory cuts to force 'endangering public safety'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hu ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Over 600 to be precise.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 10:56 pm

Oh dear, we're back to unions being sinister now I see...

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:01 pm

Did the Tories actually bother putting together any kind of offer to convince the electorate? Or is their contempt for us so great they didn't think they needed to?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:06 pm

Not surprised the Conservatives wouldn't put anyone up for Newsnight. Despite Maitliss that was a reasonably good discussion with some good panellists - and Fraser Nelson's protestations on behalf of the welfare reforms which apparently are about saving people .... came over as pathetic. The evil and counterproductive use of sanctions came across loud and clear.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:09 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Did the Tories actually bother putting together any kind of offer to convince the electorate? Or is their contempt for us so great they didn't think they needed to?

Genuinely I don't think they did.

More of the same and a crap hashtag nobody ever used LTEP.

Cameron genuinely seems to have believed he only needed to show up and Miliband would be crushed.

The negative campaigning, personal insults and scaremongering really is all they have got.

Their actual policies are as attractive as a cup of cold sick.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:10 pm

Oh here we go - Newsnight are on to the Shapps Wikipedia story.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:11 pm

Rentoul's latest includes the following gem.

On Sunday night I met Iain Martin and, gagging on my pride, made a late application to join the DUEMA,* which he chairs. It is possible that, if Miliband does become prime minister, his government might be considered quite successful for a year or so, not least because the SNP would want to do nothing to help the Conservatives, with its eyes on winning the Scottish Parliament elections next May.

Don't Underestimate Ed Miliband Association - apparently.

ChrisDean · Post by **ChrisDean** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:15 pm

Ooh, it seems it was Mark Harper that pulled out!

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:17 pm

ChrisDean wrote:Ooh, it seems it was Mark Harper that pulled out!

Messy.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:20 pm

Mail:

Sean the Sheep's sinister hold over fictitious farmer's dog.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:34 pm

Sky News ‏@SkyNews 34m34 minutes ago
Tesco to announce annual loss of well over £5bn http://trib.al/bvtYnhS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tesco and Wonga ... maybe they'll want to take a look at their business models ...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:37 pm

OK, here's the daily "let's all laugh at Toby Young for being a fool".

Toby Young retweeted
Michael Shermer @michaelshermer · 1h 1 hour ago
Defending the Right to Offend. This is @Ayaan Hirsi Ali's best commentary yet on the inviability of free speech. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ayaan-hir ... _hp_ref=tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Got that? Right...

Toby Young @toadmeister · 5h 5 hours ago
So Labourites bleat about PM punching below the belt, then launch a personal attack on a Conservative politician's wife. Nice #hypocrisy

He really is an utter moron.

I'm guessing that the "politician's wife" was Sarah Vine in which case he's an arse-licking moron - and a hypocrite.

Toby Young retweeted
Sarah Vine @SarahVine · Apr 14
Ed Miliband is the Kim Kardashian of British politics. He thinks he's amazing - but all anyone can see when they look at him is a giant arse

There you go - free speech for everyone...unless you criticise someone I like and then I'll throw the toys out of the pram.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:39 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Sky News ‏@SkyNews 34m34 minutes ago
Tesco to announce annual loss of well over £5bn http://trib.al/bvtYnhS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tesco and Wonga ... maybe they'll want to take a look at their business models ...

That is impressive. That sort of money would refurbish Sarah Vine's kitchen.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Tue 21 Apr, 2015 11:42 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Sky News ‏@SkyNews 34m34 minutes ago
Tesco to announce annual loss of well over £5bn http://trib.al/bvtYnhS" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tesco and Wonga ... maybe they'll want to take a look at their business models ...

Wonga?

Wonga declares £37.3m loss after accidentally borrowing a fiver from itself

http://newsthump.com/2015/04/21/wonga-d ... om-itself/

Legitimised loan-shark Wonga has declared a substantial loss after someone in the expenses department pressed the wrong button and borrowed a fiver six months ago.

The error meant that Wonga had one week to pay back the five pounds, plus three pounds in fees, followed by around three thousand pounds once the company’s utterly life-shattering rate of interest was applied.

Six months later and the company has yet to pay itself back following the error, leading to the massive pre-tax loss and a vague threat to come round to its own house and repossess its own furniture.

Wonga’s CEO, Norman Bugger-Crumpets, said “The irony isn’t lost on us.”

“I’ve begged our collections team to let us off the hook, but we’ve programmed them to be single-minded heartless wank-pheasants of the highest order.”

“They’ve told us we either have to pay up, or some thoroughly terrifying men will come to take anything that isn’t nailed down, and maybe have a go on my wife.”

“It’s simultaneously a testament to our extensive training program, and a massive pain in my arse.”