Wednesday 22nd April 2015

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:12 pm

Amy ‏@thisisamy_ · 4m4 minutes ago
Mansion dwelling Tory tells pensioners: you can squat to solve housing crisis

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/04/v ... ng-crisis/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:13 pm

There's a candidate debate happening in Sheffield Hallam tonight, being recorded for BBC Radio Sheffield who will broadcast it tomorrow at 9am. Well... almost all of the candidates. Clegg has again refused to take part.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:17 pm

refitman wrote:Apologies if this has already been posted, I've been jumping back and forwards and have probably missed a few posts.

Here is the Cameron Newsbeat "Ask The Leaders".

*Edit*

I suppose you'll be wanting a link then. I don't know...grumblegrumble.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05pr3ht" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you're lucky this link will take you to an iPlayer version I was just watching, where you get to see Cameron as well as hear him as he gets taken to task for not using the usual phrase LGBT, pulled up for claiming credit for GPs which would have begun their training before he became PM and absolutely hammered over homelessness plus much, much more (I still haven't finished it and he's been eviscerated already).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... id-cameron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:21 pm

Looks like Cameron's car crash radio 1 interview is hitting the MSM:

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-04- ... interview/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(I haven't even got to that bit yet. Clearly it doesn't get any better for him!)

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:21 pm

While I'm in explanatory mode, something I've criticised Stewart Lee for, i.e. his repetitive delivery while people catch on, I'll just elucidate Michael's report on the giant English arse. It worked on a primary level on Gove's Scottishness but was also a reference to Sarah Vine's article plus his statement of Cameron being a fine upstanding English gentleman (or similar) on Channel 4 News.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:24 pm

Country's a bit fiascotastic with leaders not bothering to turn up to the sorts of meetings any normal person would get fired for missing. And the expensively educated guys in charge running the kind of campaign that could literally have been put together by a petulant five-year old. We need to get a grip.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:24 pm

refitman wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
diGriz wrote: You missed Clegg's tumble-weed Shapps joke.
Clegg who?
Fair do's to the Lib Dems, their press release about Shapps was good:

(I'm going to finish reading page 2 soon!)

Oh, that wasn't the joke. Clegg (who?) was being interviewed and made a joke about Shapps that bombed.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:26 pm

diGriz wrote:... Oh, that wasn't the joke. Clegg (who?) was being interviewed and made a joke about Shapps that bombed.

"Boom, boom."

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:28 pm

utopiandreams wrote:
diGriz wrote:... Oh, that wasn't the joke. Clegg (who?) was being interviewed and made a joke about Shapps that bombed.

"Boom, boom."

I'd read about it and assumed the drum roll bit was a joke.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:31 pm

diGriz wrote:
utopiandreams wrote:
diGriz wrote:... Oh, that wasn't the joke. Clegg (who?) was being interviewed and made a joke about Shapps that bombed.

"Boom, boom."
I'd read about it and assumed the drum roll bit was a joke.

Those words actually came from his mouth, diGriz, as the tumbleweed rolled by.

Post by **refitman** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:34 pm

diGriz wrote:
refitman wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Clegg who?
Fair do's to the Lib Dems, their press release about Shapps was good:

(I'm going to finish reading page 2 soon!)
Oh, that wasn't the joke. Clegg (who?) was being interviewed and made a joke about Shapps that bombed.

They tried to make 2 jokes? Classic mistake.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 8:55 pm

usual cries of "left wing bias at BBC" as journalist actually asks Cameron a ****ing question. It's so infantile it's terrifying.
"British" press. Gotta go. It's why Mr Miliband absolutely must get in.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:00 pm

Willow904 wrote:
refitman wrote:Apologies if this has already been posted, I've been jumping back and forwards and have probably missed a few posts.

Here is the Cameron Newsbeat "Ask The Leaders".

*Edit*

I suppose you'll be wanting a link then. I don't know...grumblegrumble.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05pr3ht" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you're lucky this link will take you to an iPlayer version I was just watching, where you get to see Cameron as well as hear him as he gets taken to task for not using the usual phrase LGBT, pulled up for claiming credit for GPs which would have begun their training before he became PM and absolutely hammered over homelessness plus much, much more (I still haven't finished it and he's been eviscerated already).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... id-cameron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Didn't even know how much the living wage is!
Well worth a watch thanks for link.
Ed's doing one with them on Friday.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:14 pm

Not Matthew Norman's biggest fan, but this is well worth a read.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gen ... 93467.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:17 pm

Goodnight, everyone.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:21 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
refitman wrote:Apologies if this has already been posted, I've been jumping back and forwards and have probably missed a few posts.

Here is the Cameron Newsbeat "Ask The Leaders".

*Edit*

I suppose you'll be wanting a link then. I don't know...grumblegrumble.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05pr3ht" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you're lucky this link will take you to an iPlayer version I was just watching, where you get to see Cameron as well as hear him as he gets taken to task for not using the usual phrase LGBT, pulled up for claiming credit for GPs which would have begun their training before he became PM and absolutely hammered over homelessness plus much, much more (I still haven't finished it and he's been eviscerated already).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... id-cameron" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Didn't even know how much the living wage is!
Well worth a watch thanks for link.
Ed's doing one with them on Friday.

I listened for a bit, but had to stop. I get too angry. It's no wonder the Tories are lagging behind with the young when they're so evasive.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:22 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:23 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Blimey that's brave. Cameron told me that Nicola Sturgeon was hiding under my bed ready to murrrddder me the second I fall asleep.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:23 pm

Night PF. And good night to all. I leave you with Sir Ian Bowler's erotic ode to Eric Pickles.

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TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:25 pm

Suffering the usual bout of pre You Gov poll nerves.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:29 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Goodnight, PF

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:32 pm

Birmingham Post ‏@birminghampost 21m21 minutes ago
Hundreds of Jaguar agency workers face axe http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busines ... ce-9096627" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Hundreds = 700. Awful news for a lot of people.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:35 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Suffering the usual bout of pre You Gov poll nerves.

No Smithson/Newton Dunn teasers so far tonight so I can't put the wind up everybody.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:38 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Birmingham Post ‏@birminghampost 21m21 minutes ago
Hundreds of Jaguar agency workers face axe http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busines ... ce-9096627" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
Hundreds = 700. Awful news for a lot of people.

But our economy is improving...

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:47 pm

Thank you, Ephemerid for your great reply on assessments of sickness and disability. You say things with such precision, and a lot of detail, while I'm just woolly. Still I think my self assessments and yours submitted evidence are fairly similar, I can't for the life of me think why a well designed form and the right edidence from your doctors should not suffice for a vast majority of cases. Making a huge saving. That is unless your real motivation for change is to implement a form of covert larceny while taking down a foundation stone of the welfare state.

Your disability chap sounds very like mine, an encyclopaedic knowledge exactly fits him. He was disabled too, and I hope he found suitable work, such a waste of his personal knowledge and skills. I met others like him in schools, two wonderful women, dispensed with within a year of each other around ten years ago, also part of a political decision, when learning support units in this region were turned into punishment units. These are the kind of people you rarely find in the private sector. I wonder how many of these very specialist geniuses (sp?) are now lost to us.

There has got to be another way, my post was really a tentative wondering about what it could look like. As many people are, as you are firm in insisting on, sick people, with limited existences sometimes or limited lives, my feeling is whatever emerges should be, regardless of disability or sickness, or both, a noninvasive and kindly process, and that we should move away from punitive forms of delivering what is supposed to be help and support. Given the huge amounts of unclaimed benefits there is adequate evidence that sick and disabled people are more likely to underestimate the impact of their condition than do the opposite, and the thing they get stigmatised for.

I'd dearly love to see you help develop such a process.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:51 pm

As someone pointed out the "logical conclusion of idiotic govt policy of introducing more faith schools."

Row over Leeds children allocated to Sikh ethos free school their parents did not choose

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... -1-7223742

MORE THAN 20 children have been allocated to a Sikh ethos free school they did not choose amid questions over when it will move to a permanent base.

Council bosses say that of the 30 children being sent to the Khalsa Science Academy in Leeds this September, only eight put it down as a preference and only four of these children were actually from the city.

Parents who did not choose it have voiced concerns at being sent to a school miles from where they live based on a faith that they do not follow - and at the requirement that all school meals and packed lunches have to be vegetarian.

That multiculturalism policy that failed...what happened to that again?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:57 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:As someone pointed out the "logical conclusion of idiotic govt policy of introducing more faith schools."

Row over Leeds children allocated to Sikh ethos free school their parents did not choose

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/n ... -1-7223742

MORE THAN 20 children have been allocated to a Sikh ethos free school they did not choose amid questions over when it will move to a permanent base.

Council bosses say that of the 30 children being sent to the Khalsa Science Academy in Leeds this September, only eight put it down as a preference and only four of these children were actually from the city.

Parents who did not choose it have voiced concerns at being sent to a school miles from where they live based on a faith that they do not follow - and at the requirement that all school meals and packed lunches have to be vegetarian.
That multiculturalism policy that failed...what happened to that again?

I read that wrong initially - thought the school was going to be free of ethos ... a novel concept.

But coming back to your point. Yes, that multiculturalism is such a dastardly divisive policy ...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 9:59 pm

This seems to come in the category of "Making any old shit up to frighten the voters"

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:00 pm

StanⒶn☮n @StanAnon

Tory party membership halved since 2010. Average age of member 68. Give it 10 more yrs. Bye Tories

Ian Parsons ‏@IanLabour 25 mins

Time, like an ever rolling stream; bears all its sons away...etc and good riddance to a narrow minded purple rinse.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:01 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:This seems to come in the category of "Making any old shit up to frighten the voters"

I do hope Miliband implements Leveson at the earliest opportunity.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:07 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:Suffering the usual bout of pre You Gov poll nerves.

Don't worry about the polls, take heart that #Milifandon got 280,000 to #Camerettes 8000.

:lol!:

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:12 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:Suffering the usual bout of pre You Gov poll nerves.
Don't worry about the polls, take heart that #Milifandon got 280,000 to #Camerettes 8000.

Yeah but only three of them are old enough to vote (and one of them is probably Justine).

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:13 pm

What happens if there's a hung parliament? Don't panic – there's a plan
The process of forming a government may be opaque and less than logical, but whatever emerges from negotiations is pretty much condemned to work
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... its-course" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

... Even if they lose their seats, ministers remain ministers, although their powers are reduced: according to the Cabinet Manual, a caretaker government may make no decisions that would bind the new government. That rules out any new policies, appointments or big contracts. It must also consult the opposition parties if decisions cannot be put off, as the outgoing Labour chancellor, Alistair Darling, did before going to an EU finance ministers’ meeting straight after the 2010 vote...

So even if Clegg has his Portillo moment ... he might still be Deputy Prime Minister whilst negotiations to form a new government are taking place.

Expect the longest negotiating period possible if that's the case.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:19 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
What happens if there's a hung parliament? Don't panic – there's a plan
The process of forming a government may be opaque and less than logical, but whatever emerges from negotiations is pretty much condemned to work
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... its-course" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

... Even if they lose their seats, ministers remain ministers, although their powers are reduced: according to the Cabinet Manual, a caretaker government may make no decisions that would bind the new government. That rules out any new policies, appointments or big contracts. It must also consult the opposition parties if decisions cannot be put off, as the outgoing Labour chancellor, Alistair Darling, did before going to an EU finance ministers’ meeting straight after the 2010 vote...
So even if Clegg has his Portillo moment ... he might still be Deputy Prime Minister whilst negotiations to form a new government are taking place.

Expect the longest negotiating period possible if that's the case.

Unless the Tories get close this is going to be relatively simple.

If Dave has no chance of governing Ed will step up and say he would like to try and form a government. Under those circumstances I cannot see any possibility of Cameron hanging on.

If he thinks he can govern he will try to get the Queens speech through, if he fails it is Ed's turn.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:28 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:Another reason I won't be voting Green - just seen that they want to introduce copyright terms lasting only 14 years. That would shaft anyone like me who attempts to make a living through creativity, and kill a lot of new writing as publishers could just reprint slightly older material without having to pay royalties.

I can see why they want to do it, and the democratisation of information is a good thing generally, but I'm not sure this has been throught through fully.

I fail to see why being able to rip off other people's work is democratisation of information. There is a case for outlawing software patents, or introducing the concept that a patent is non transferable and is only valid if the owner is actively making and selling the product.

But books, music, paintings and photographs should be considered sacrosanct.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:29 pm

Sarah McIntyre
‏@jabberworks
WHAT? Green Party aim to cut down copyright to 14 years. How are we supposed to earn a living? http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/ec.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Deadly Knitshade ‏@deadlyknitshade 22m22 minutes ago
Deadly Knitshade retweeted Sarah McIntyre
And with this the Green Party lose all their creative voters. *slow clap*

From looking at the response tweets - not a popular policy idea. But not clear to me if this is something that has actually found its way into their manifesto - or is one of the items from the very big policy bank that has been amassed over the years by the Green Party.

However - it would probably play havoc in many sectors and could leave individuals and smaller enterprises worse off.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:30 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:Another reason I won't be voting Green - just seen that they want to introduce copyright terms lasting only 14 years. That would shaft anyone like me who attempts to make a living through creativity, and kill a lot of new writing as publishers could just reprint slightly older material without having to pay royalties.

I can see why they want to do it, and the democratisation of information is a good thing generally, but I'm not sure this has been throught through fully.

That's insane.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:32 pm

Tom Swarbrick ‏@TomSwarbrick1 20 mins20 minutes ago

Front page opening column in tomorrow's @guardian . @MarinaHyde absolutely tears into Cameron. It's quite a read.And that's just the opening

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:32 pm

Breath again

YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 5%

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:37 pm

rearofthestore wrote:Breath again
YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by one: CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 14%, GRN 5%

Excellent - Tim's SURGE was more of an eddy then.

I would like to see Labour go strongly negative on Cameron about now. There is a shit load of stuff in that manifesto that scares me a lot more than the SNP.

I suspect I am not alone.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:52 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Tom Swarbrick ‏@TomSwarbrick1 20 mins20 minutes ago

Front page opening column in tomorrow's @guardian . @MarinaHyde absolutely tears into Cameron. It's quite a read.And that's just the opening

Never mind Marina, the Daily Mail article is absolutely vicious.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... uzzle.html

Nine minutes to complete a puzzle, and the nursery children had to help them....

Can you imagine if Labour did that. These guys are fuckwits - if in doubt wedge it in.

Good advice for Boris's love life perhaps, fuck all use for a child's jigsaw puzzle.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 10:55 pm

Now this is a big idea from Tristram Hunt.

Labour could ditch GCSEs within 10 years, says Tristram Hunt

http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... stram-hunt

“It is a big, hairy conversation that you have to begin early and then shape some of the discussion around,” he said. “I would hope by the end of a five-year parliament there was a consensus about creating a 14-19 curriculum and qualification framework, and I would not be surprised, or indeed saddened, if that meant in a decade’s time we were beginning to phase out GCSEs.”

Hunt’s emphasis on the need for consensus and a long timetable reflects his awareness that calls for exam reform has been a graveyard for politicians. He is also aware that the overriding immediate desire in schools is to embed the recent changes to the GCSE curriculum.

But the proposal has the enthusiastic support of the CBI director general, John Cridland, and many academics have argued the 14-19 phase in English education is both incoherent and stuck in the mud, with division between academic and vocational qualifications and inequity in who takes which adding to the underperformance of young people.

It amazes me that Gove is seen as this great reformer...but all he did was to say "more of the same with extra rigour".

Let me have a look at the LibDem manifesto to see whether they have something similar...

Edit - no they don't but I can't see Laws disagreeing with the direction of travel here.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:03 pm

Just heard Cameron's interview with the youngsters

I must admit my previous depression about my fellow Brits (this community excepted) has dissipated a bit

They really tore him a new one and picked up on numerous of his lies (still got away with some though). He really cannot handle criticism can he?

A truly despicable person

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:07 pm

Confidential email shows Tories secretly holding off hospital closures until after election
"A confidential email from a Tory MP shows how local hospital closures are being kept secret from the public until after the election in order to avoid ‘sensitive’ issues arising during the election campaign.
The leaked email from Wellingborough Tory MP Peter Bone to a member of the Board of Directors of the local NHS Clinical Commissioning Group shows how police and fire station closures are also being secretly delayed until after the election: "

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/ ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Interestingly, the email was leaked by a local Tory activist, fed up with the lies and corruption from his local MP:"

https://thetruthaboutpeter.wordpress.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this bit is well worth a read, if this is a tory voter (which he claims to be) its not looking good...

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:16 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Confidential email shows Tories secretly holding off hospital closures until after election
"A confidential email from a Tory MP shows how local hospital closures are being kept secret from the public until after the election in order to avoid ‘sensitive’ issues arising during the election campaign.
The leaked email from Wellingborough Tory MP Peter Bone to a member of the Board of Directors of the local NHS Clinical Commissioning Group shows how police and fire station closures are also being secretly delayed until after the election: "

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/ ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Interestingly, the email was leaked by a local Tory activist, fed up with the lies and corruption from his local MP:"

https://thetruthaboutpeter.wordpress.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this bit is well worth a read, if this is a tory voter (which he claims to be) its not looking good...

Only question about that is the email address. Surely if it was legit then it wouldn't have mp in it ? I thought they changed email address in elections?

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:19 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Confidential email shows Tories secretly holding off hospital closures until after election
"A confidential email from a Tory MP shows how local hospital closures are being kept secret from the public until after the election in order to avoid ‘sensitive’ issues arising during the election campaign.
The leaked email from Wellingborough Tory MP Peter Bone to a member of the Board of Directors of the local NHS Clinical Commissioning Group shows how police and fire station closures are also being secretly delayed until after the election: "

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/ ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Interestingly, the email was leaked by a local Tory activist, fed up with the lies and corruption from his local MP:"

https://thetruthaboutpeter.wordpress.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this bit is well worth a read, if this is a tory voter (which he claims to be) its not looking good...

They are just scum aren't they?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:20 pm

That extra £358 per person that the DT claim that Miliband and the SNP will cost everyone apparently comes from 'independent Treasury analysis'.

So how did Osborne get this given that the SNP manifesto was only out last week and who asked the Treasury to do this blatant bit of party electioneering?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... e-SNP.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:22 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Confidential email shows Tories secretly holding off hospital closures until after election
"A confidential email from a Tory MP shows how local hospital closures are being kept secret from the public until after the election in order to avoid ‘sensitive’ issues arising during the election campaign.
The leaked email from Wellingborough Tory MP Peter Bone to a member of the Board of Directors of the local NHS Clinical Commissioning Group shows how police and fire station closures are also being secretly delayed until after the election: "

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/ ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Interestingly, the email was leaked by a local Tory activist, fed up with the lies and corruption from his local MP:"

https://thetruthaboutpeter.wordpress.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this bit is well worth a read, if this is a tory voter (which he claims to be) its not looking good...
Only question about that is the email address. Surely if it was legit then it wouldn't have mp in it ? I thought they changed email address in elections?

Dated Date: Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:16 PM so probably would still be using it.

diGriz · Post by **diGriz** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:25 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:That extra £358 per person that the DT claim that Miliband and the SNP will cost everyone apparently comes from 'independent Treasury analysis'.

So how did Osborne get this given that the SNP manifesto was only out last week and who asked the Treasury to do this blatant bit of party electioneering?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... e-SNP.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm sure the journalistic types are all over that.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Wed 22 Apr, 2015 11:36 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Confidential email shows Tories secretly holding off hospital closures until after election
"A confidential email from a Tory MP shows how local hospital closures are being kept secret from the public until after the election in order to avoid ‘sensitive’ issues arising during the election campaign.
The leaked email from Wellingborough Tory MP Peter Bone to a member of the Board of Directors of the local NHS Clinical Commissioning Group shows how police and fire station closures are also being secretly delayed until after the election: "

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/ ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Interestingly, the email was leaked by a local Tory activist, fed up with the lies and corruption from his local MP:"

https://thetruthaboutpeter.wordpress.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this bit is well worth a read, if this is a tory voter (which he claims to be) its not looking good...

Peter Bone and his wife featured in the 3 part series about the House of Commons. He's fanatical about leaving the EU I believe...
I felt sorry for his wife. She was with him at the HofC one evening ironing his shirt. She was also plainly having chemo. Was bald and with a stent in her arm.
I'd have made him iron his own bloody shirt!