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utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:10 pm

ohsocynical wrote:... Mediocrity has finally caught up with him.

True, ohsocynical, but at what cost to the country?

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:12 pm

I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:15 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.

You're in my thoughts, comrade. Give my love to your family.
xx
cJA

onebuttonmonkey · Post by **onebuttonmonkey** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:16 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.

All the best, Ernst.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:21 pm

Nick Clegg’s rules on coalition-building are ‘absurd’, says constitutional expert
Lib Dem leader is wrong to question the legitimacy of a government formed by the second-largest party in parliament, says Professor Vernon Bogdanor

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_tw

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:25 pm

Chris Mason ‏@ChrisMasonBBC 24m24 minutes ago
BREAKING: Labour say rent increases in the private sector would be capped so that they couldn't rise by more than inflation.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:27 pm

Ed Miliband will end tax breaks for 'rip-off landlords' and cap rents to protect tenants
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed ... ks-5584072" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:29 pm

Spacedone wrote:
Chris Mason ‏@ChrisMasonBBC 24m24 minutes ago
BREAKING: Labour say rent increases in the private sector would be capped so that they couldn't rise by more than inflation.

See mine up there /|\
Its ending tax breaks for bad landlords as well

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:31 pm

Dr Éoin Clarke ‏@LabourEoin 26 mins26 minutes ago

Labour Policies for Renters

Cap Rent hikes - inflation only
Tenant right to know last tenant's rent bill
Axe Tax Relief for Rogue Landlords

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:32 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.

Wishing you well.

Thinking of you.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:32 pm

That sound you can hear is David Cameron crying.

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:32 pm

Third night on the run Labour lead by 2 on YouGov

Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 18s19 seconds ago
YouGov/SundayTimes poll LAB 34% CON 32% UKIP 14% LDEM 9% GRN 6%

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:34 pm

rearofthestore wrote:Third night on the run Labour lead by 2 on YouGov
Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 18s19 seconds ago
YouGov/SundayTimes poll LAB 34% CON 32% UKIP 14% LDEM 9% GRN 6%

Good.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:35 pm

Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs

Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet

http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:40 pm

utopiandreams wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:... Mediocrity has finally caught up with him.
True, ohsocynical, but at what cost to the country?

I dread to think.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:43 pm

Reclaim Brixton march: Protesters smash up Foxtons shop front and storm Town Hall
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/r ... 03936.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

James Cropper ‏@JamesCropper95 · 5h5 hours ago
I was just thrown to the ground by police inside the station even after stating that I was press #reclaimbrixton

Bet its not on the news....

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:45 pm

John Mann @JohnMannMP
· 2h 2 hours ago
Serious allegations made to police over Bassetlaw UKIP nominations. Several people outraged that their signatures have been forged

John Mann @JohnMannMP
· 2h 2 hours ago
Locals whose signatures were forged demanding their names be removed from all documents falsely linking them to UKIP and demanding apology

John Mann @JohnMannMP
· 2h 2 hours ago
Extraordinary that names have been forged on UKIP nomination paper for Bassetlaw Council.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:52 pm

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 9:56 pm

I don't know if this is just sad, or very scary as well..

Ukip's youth wing: in quotes :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... uotes.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rearofthestore · Post by **rearofthestore** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:00 pm

Tonight's Mail on Sunday headline the most ludicrous yet
and again to cheer us up

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 3m3 minutes ago
First sign of proper Tory jitters this evening in Sunday Times. Two donors on the record denouncing the campaign, Cam and calling for Boris

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:02 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs

Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet

http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Seems they took a video and put it on FB - the comments must identify some of them?

Exposing UKIP IMP ‏@SLATUKIP · 2m2 minutes ago
Kent National Front threatening Labour canvassers in Broadstairs Kent " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:06 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs

Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet

http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems they took a video and put it on FB - the comments must identify some of them?

Exposing UKIP IMP ‏@SLATUKIP · 2m2 minutes ago
Kent National Front threatening Labour canvassers in Broadstairs Kent " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

What a bunch of complete and utter losers.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:15 pm

Tory Minister Eric Pickles compares Labour’s rent plans to bombing of cities
Eric Pickles
✔ ‎@EricPickles
Rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city except for bombing http://bit.ly/1z0Oc59" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Lindbeck

http://labourlist.org/2015/04/tory-mini ... of-cities/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:21 pm

Apparently Theresa May has said that a Lab SNP government would be worst crisis since abdication. As someone on UKPR was saying, 'You would think WW2 would be in with a shout.'

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:28 pm

Just had a look at the Survation tabs. They've got Lab ahead in the north this time. But behind in London and Wales! File under bollocks.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:32 pm

Spacedone wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Battle for South Thanet: Police investigate after rosette ripped from Labour man in Broadstairs

Seems things are getting a tad nasty in Thanet

http://www.thanetgazette.co.uk/Battle-S ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems they took a video and put it on FB - the comments must identify some of them?

Exposing UKIP IMP ‏@SLATUKIP · 2m2 minutes ago
Kent National Front threatening Labour canvassers in Broadstairs Kent " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
What a bunch of complete and utter losers.

I think this is what I blame the Conservatives for more than anything else. They've unleashed the ugly side of our country and are willing to do anything, even tie up with UKIP to stay in power.

I do try not to hate because it brings you down to their level, but I can't stop myself. I hope they rot in hell for what they've done.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:32 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Tory council candidate: I’d never support ‘the Jew’ Miliband

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/exclusive-t ... -miliband/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:36 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:EXCLUSIVE: Tory council candidate: I’d never support ‘the Jew’ Miliband

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/exclusive-t ... -miliband/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What are these people on? Ohso's right, it's the vileness that these people take as normal, and go on to stir up amongst the rest of us that's so profoundly sickening.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:42 pm

goodnight
love
cJA

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:43 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Tory Minister Eric Pickles compares Labour’s rent plans to bombing of cities
Eric Pickles
✔ ‎@EricPickles
Rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city except for bombing http://bit.ly/1z0Oc59" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Lindbeck

http://labourlist.org/2015/04/tory-mini ... of-cities/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus Christ. Suddenly we've got the abdication which took place in the thirties, and now WW2 bombing.

Some jumped up know nothing Spad has come up with the idea that WW2 was when we Brits saw the danger and really pulled together.

Snag is the silly sod has forgotten Conservatives represent what we fought against.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:43 pm

rearofthestore wrote:Tonight's Mail on Sunday headline the most ludicrous yet
and again to cheer us up
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 3m3 minutes ago
First sign of proper Tory jitters this evening in Sunday Times. Two donors on the record denouncing the campaign, Cam and calling for Boris

Love the sub-headline...English voters would not accept the legitimacy of an alliance.

As someone pointed out...

Mike H 1 ‏@MikeHannity 58m58 minutes ago
@hendopolis 2014 "Please stay dear Scots we need you." 2015 "Not voting for us? Piss off jocks!" #desperation of the Westminster club

Well quite.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:54 pm

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 10:57 pm

YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 32%, LAB 34%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%
Opinium/Observer – CON 34%, LAB 33%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%, GRN 6% (tabs)
Survation/Mail on Sunday – CON 33%, LAB 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 18%, GRN 4% (tabs)

Not sure how these compare to others?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:18 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:YouGov/Sunday Times – CON 32%, LAB 34%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 14%, GRN 6%
Opinium/Observer – CON 34%, LAB 33%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%, GRN 6% (tabs)
Survation/Mail on Sunday – CON 33%, LAB 30%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 18%, GRN 4% (tabs)

Not sure how these compare to others?

I really truly don't bother about the polls now, they are fixed.
Simples.

Night all

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:21 pm

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Third donor: "Everyone knows what is going to happen in 10 days’ time. If Dave doesn’t make it we’ll get rid of him.”

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
2010 Tories looking for a “clean skin” think Dominic Raab could run an “insurgent” campaign emphasising social mobility.

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
MPs received calls last week on behalf of Andrea Leadsom, who is attracting leadership backing from eurosceptic donors.

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Ministers & MPs have urged Nicky Morgan to run as a modernising candidate who can appeal to non Tories. See SundayTimes

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Several ministers have been sounding out colleagues about leadership bids this week. See Sunday Times.Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Fmr Tory minister: "There won’t be a coronation. There will be nearly as many entries as the grand national, with a similar casualty rate”

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory official sounded out at least two other donors about Cameron stepping aside after polling day so Boris could fight a second election.

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor H.Osmond on Boris "If there's going to be a new leader of the Tory party if they don’t win you’d really have to give Boris a go"Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago

Tory donor Hugh Osmond on leadership: "I don’t really know what they believe. They are masters of expediency rather than genuine belief.”

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Hugh Osmond: "I don’t find either of the campaigns the slightest bit inspiring. They are utterly cynical"

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Hugh Osmond, who leads private equity firm Sun Capital partners: “What would a Cameron UK really look like? I’ve just no idea."

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 1h1 hour ago
Tory donor Peter Hall on Boris: "He does have an emotional connection with the public at large. They do sense his Churchillian spirit"

Jitters - what jitters? They're all pulling together for the country and Dave ... my arse.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:32 pm

‘Disgraceful’ Tory attacks on the SNP are endangering union, say top Lib Dems
Attempts to woo Ukip voters by demonising Scottish nationalists will backfire, say Danny Alexander and David Steel
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... avid-steel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Have they had their hands over their ears when Nick Clegg has been speaking?

How on earth have they got the nerve to come out with this when the leader of their party has all but declared the SNP not fit to play a part in government ....?

This election campaign has become like political hysteria ... politicians relentlessly screaming at us from their separate rooms, not caring that their supposed pals are screaming an opposing mantra.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 25 Apr, 2015 11:32 pm

'Yes, I know,' he shrugs, acknowledging the apparent contradiction, 'I've spent my whole political life fighting the Conservatives.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3YMZEJHLc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Claims Vince Cable.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:03 am

ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.

All the best to you, Ernst.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:07 am

At the risk of sounding flippant, I'd like to say "good evening all".

Good evening all.

Maintaining the laser-focus on politics that I'm renowned for, and using the statistically and empirically bomb-proof technique of Listening To People In My Pub, I can report that Dave has indeed made a connection with the ordinary voter with his devotion to the game with the round ball. Just not the connection he was hoping for.

Even his most diligent apologist had nothing. People, generally of a C/conservative persuasion, who hadn't heard the story (more, I've no doubt, than if Ed had made the same gaffe. Sorry about the grammar - I boldly introduced Sprog 1 to the original Star Trek last night) were openly laughing.

As I mentioned obliquely last night when talking about a wager on a Labour majority in amongst the rest of my tittle-tattle, the feeling that the background sussuration on social media, the hedging of bets in the the BBC as, perhaps, they'll take Pascal's wager, is all in Labour's favour, but this is just gut-instinct conjecture with a provenance as sound as a prediction of the date of "crossover" from the lately lamented NickyB.

*edited* It's late, I've been here since midday, and buggerit. There's an " 'll " added, and a couple of other nips'n'tucks. Hope my brackets are up to snuff.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:17 am

Re the Mail on Sunday headline.

Laura McInerney
‏@miss_mcinerney
Was pondering this just the other day: what does a constitutional crisis actually involve? Is it just a lot of tutting?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:32 am

Hobiejoe wrote:At the risk of sounding flippant, I'd like to say "good evening all".

Good evening all.

Maintaining the laser-focus on politics that I'm renowned for, and using the statistically and empirically bomb-proof technique of Listening To People In My Pub, I can report that Dave has indeed made a connection with the ordinary voter with his devotion to the game with the round ball. Just not the connection he was hoping for.

Even his most diligent apologist had nothing. People, generally of a C/conservative persuasion, who hadn't heard the story (more, I've no doubt, than if Ed had made the same gaffe. Sorry about the grammar - I boldly introduced Sprog 1 to the original Star Trek last night) were openly laughing.

As I mentioned obliquely last night when talking about a wager on a Labour majority in amongst the rest of my tittle-tattle, the feeling that the background sussuration on social media, the hedging of bets in the the BBC as, perhaps, they'll take Pascal's wager, is all in Labour's favour, but this is just gut-instinct conjecture with a provenance as sound as a prediction of the date of "crossover" from the lately lamented NickyB.

*edited* It's late, I've been here since midday, and buggerit. There's an " 'll " added, and a couple of other nips'n'tucks. Hope my brackets are up to snuff.

Sounds like a jolly atmosphere in the pub tonight then. At least you've got one thing to thank and remember Cameron for ...

Hope your gut instincts are proven right. And just to let you know your renowned 'laser-focus on politics' is always welcomed by me especially when it's based on listening to people - or music even.

Tizme1 · Post by **Tizme1** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:46 am

LadyCentauria wrote:
ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
All the best to you, Ernst.

Hello all.

Firstly - best wishes to you Ernst. Thinking of you.

Thank you LadyC for your responses to my comments last night. With regards copyright etc, it's not an area I know a great deal about but I understand that at times, the current laws work against the artist and in favour of large corporations. Broadly speaking, it's that which the Green Party want to address. As I said, it's not in the manifesto because there is so much more work to be done first to make sure we get it right.

Thanks also for your other comments. With hindsight, I think it was just an unfortunate coincidence of timing. I don't actually have any problem with going 'off topic'. On the contrary, I think it helps to keep forums more 'real' and civilised. I have known, seen, and indeed been subject to, some horrific 'trolling' in the past so anything that keeps things 'civilised' is vital imo.

As to football - my dears, it is a matter of life and death! Well, at least while the match is being played. I've been a gooner since I was about 8. Well, I think I'm a gooner. Could be Brentford I guess............ Meanwhile, having lived here for many years now, I do keep a 'fond eye' on how Watford are doing so of course today was a good day. Well except in political terms it will help the Dotty Mare's campaign.

Anyway, I was focussing on various campaign things earlier and deliberately ignoring social media and news outlets so I could deal with some quite tricky problems. Having done the necessary 'trouble shooting', I started checking news etc and saw the Daily Mail headline. Seriously? Have I slipped suddenly into some totally dystopian alternative universe? It will be worse than Hitler and WW2 if we don't *ahem* democratically elect the government that Dacre and co desire? What frigging planet are these people on? Worse still, what frigging planet are the people who intend to vote Tory on? I don't mean the '1%' - I mean the ordinary people who will vote Tory. The Turkeys voting for..............

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:47 am

Was just deciding what to watch on iPlayer with my supper, and saw HIGNFY. So in this time of scrupulous balance, the chair is Stephen Mangan, public school, Cambridge, with professional poshboy Miles Jupp, and journalist Camilla Long, who is not posh at all, no sirree. In fact it's PC gone mad that the BBC should invite someone on a show solely because of their plebian background to make up the numbers.

Tut.

Looks like it's Masterchef again.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:56 am

Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.

I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking

Tizme1 · Post by **Tizme1** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 12:59 am

Tizme1 wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:
ErnstRemarx wrote:I'm sorry I've not been around for a while. I have some pressing issues that have detained me. Please bear with me and I will come as and when I can. I will probably lurk more than post for a while. Wish me well.
All the best to you, Ernst.
Hello all.

Firstly - best wishes to you Ernst. Thinking of you.

Thank you LadyC for your responses to my comments last night. With regards copyright etc, it's not an area I know a great deal about but I understand that at times, the current laws work against the artist and in favour of large corporations. Broadly speaking, it's that which the Green Party want to address. As I said, it's not in the manifesto because there is so much more work to be done first to make sure we get it right.

Thanks also for your other comments. With hindsight, I think it was just an unfortunate coincidence of timing. I don't actually have any problem with going 'off topic'. On the contrary, I think it helps to keep forums more 'real' and civilised. I have known, seen, and indeed been subject to, some horrific 'trolling' in the past so anything that keeps things 'civilised' is vital imo.

As to football - my dears, it is a matter of life and death! Well, at least while the match is being played. I've been a gooner since I was about 8. Well, I think I'm a gooner. Could be Brentford I guess............ Meanwhile, having lived here for many years now, I do keep a 'fond eye' on how Watford are doing so of course today was a good day. Well except in political terms it will help the Dotty Mare's campaign.

Anyway, I was focussing on various campaign things earlier and deliberately ignoring social media and news outlets so I could deal with some quite tricky problems. Having done the necessary 'trouble shooting', I started checking news etc and saw the Daily Mail headline. Seriously? Have I slipped suddenly into some totally dystopian alternative universe? It will be worse than Hitler and WW2 if we don't *ahem* democratically elect the government that Dacre and co desire? What frigging planet are these people on? Worse still, what frigging planet are the people who intend to vote Tory on? I don't mean the '1%' - I mean the ordinary people who will vote Tory. The Turkeys voting for..............

Just to clarify - I mean I have known, seen, and been subject to trolling elsewhere, not on here.

Tizme1 · Post by **Tizme1** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 1:05 am

Hobiejoe wrote:Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.

I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking

*chuckle*

No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 1:15 am

Tizme1 wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.

I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking
*chuckle*

No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?

I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.

Tizme1 · Post by **Tizme1** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 1:24 am

Hobiejoe wrote:
Tizme1 wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:Oh bloody hell, sorry Tizme, I've cross-posted again! It's not deliberate, it's the way it goes.

I'll talk some more shortly - got supper cooking
*chuckle*

No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?
I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.

Actually that sounds lovely. I'm not vegetarian. I do eat a lot of vegetarian food, and a lot of fish or sea food. And that's mostly what I cook. But, I enjoy a meat dish now and then. You'll no doubt be surprised to know that I don't knit spaghetti or hug trees [often] either.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 1:34 am

Tizme1 wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:
Tizme1 wrote: *chuckle*

No worries Hobiejoe. Supper. Hmm - just realised I haven't actually eaten since two slices of toast this morning. Care to share?
I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.
Actually that sounds lovely. I'm not vegetarian. I do eat a lot of vegetarian food, and a lot of fish or sea food. And that's mostly what I cook. But, I enjoy a meat dish now and then. You'll no doubt be surprised to know that I don't knit spaghetti or hug trees [often] either.

Ah, but do you knit trees and hug spaghetti? 'Cause that would be really impressive.

Tizme1 · Post by **Tizme1** » Sun 26 Apr, 2015 1:40 am

refitman wrote:
Tizme1 wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote: I would, gladly, but I'm going to take a stab in the dark and guess that you may well be vegetarian. My supper involves a beef jus (posh stock cubes) that we've bubbled for five days. I would say that although very meaty, we do use local suppliers, and use every bit to make stuff that would ordinarily be sold by some ghastly multinational (probably Nestle or some arm of it) so yeah, tricky argument to make, but we do what we do.
Actually that sounds lovely. I'm not vegetarian. I do eat a lot of vegetarian food, and a lot of fish or sea food. And that's mostly what I cook. But, I enjoy a meat dish now and then. You'll no doubt be surprised to know that I don't knit spaghetti or hug trees [often] either.
Ah, but do you knit trees and hug spaghetti? 'Cause that would be really impressive.

Yes. But only when I'm drinking yoghurt, wearing sandals, and living in a yurt.