Thursday 30th April 2015

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 6:49 pm

Has this been posted yet?
"Hope Not Hate" is organising a "Twitter Thunderclap" next Tuesday,when they will send an anti-UKIP tweet.
Details here if anyone's interested:

https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/25704-notvotingukip" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 6:59 pm

LadyCentauria wrote:
utopiandreams wrote:@rebeccariots2

Since you've thanked me for my bit of nonsense earlier can you answer me something please as I'm a little concerned for my sanity. I've just got in from seeing my eldest and gave him the account of my daily tale but he had no idea where I was coming from today having never heard the expression of giving or offering someone a balloon on a stick. I've since discovered that Google and Bing are not my friends. I haven't made it up, have I? The expression that is, obviously I have my tale.

Btw he's suggested people must be dying for the election to be over so I stop coming up with such nonsense.
Try "wanting the moon on a stick" but getting that tangled up with David Niven's autobiography, The Moon's A Balloon

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... on+a+stick

David Niven. That name still makes me shudder.

I've mentioned before that I used to work at Harrods, for about 4 years I worked in the book department and, not long after I started there, Niven came in to do a promotional signing session for Go Slowly, Come Back Quickly. These sorts of events were held quite frequently but this one was obviously a Big Thing.

We set everything up in the normal way, ensured that there was a plentiful supply of pens and that all the items requested by his publisher were available; the request for a plentiful supply of hand wipes should have rung alarm bells!! If anybody touched him, even brushed him lightly by accident, everything ground to a halt as he went into a cleaning routine that even Howard Hughes would have found excessive. He died just a year or so later and, with hindsight, he was obviously not a well man, physically or spiritually, on that day.

We had some lovely events over the years, and got to know some of the authors quite well; Kenneth Williams was a complicated man but utterly charming, Roald Dahl defined the word curmudgeon but opened up when he was talking to the kids (I had a lovely chat with him in the end) and I ended up on first name terms with Michael Palin. But then you had the difficult ones; Niven, the appalling Raine Spencer and, the worst one of all, Douglas Bader who was a first class arse!

Happy days!!

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:05 pm

Well, file this one under "no shit Sherlock" but even so ......

http://www.channel4.com/news/cameron-da ... servatives" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Would be nice if somebody asked OGRFG about this on QT tonight, but I'm guessing that is a touch unlikely.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:09 pm

Natalie Rowe ‏@RealNatalieRowe · 4m4 minutes ago
OK FOLKS! THIS IS THE FRONT COVER OF MY NEW BOOK! OUT IN A FEW DAYS. HOPE YOU LIKE !!! pic.twitter.com/U4fnRHnV2L

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:11 pm

Joe Churcher ‏@JoeChurcher 4m4 minutes ago
Labour general election candidate for Wellingborough - Richard Garvie - suspended by Labour after being convicted of fraud.

What sort of seat is Wellingborough ... please tell me it isn't one Labour could / should win?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:12 pm

I love Natalie Rowe.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:16 pm

My dad met Douglas Bader.

Hated him as soon as he opened his mouth.

Bader wanted restoration of the death penalty, described unions as "the rabble", thought that apartheid was OK and supportred the Smith regime in what used to be Rhodesia, and had ambitions to be Prime Minister. He said once that he would stop all immigration if he was successful.

He wasn't - he failed to win on the only occasion he stood for Parliament.

He did some exceptional things, no question - but he wasn't a nice man and certainly not the man portrayed in the Kenneth More film.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:16 pm

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/polit ... ck-5611087" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
SNP candidate economically confused

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:17 pm

My dad met Douglas Bader.

Hated him as soon as he opened his mouth.

Bader wanted restoration of the death penalty, described unions as "the rabble", thought that apartheid was OK and supportred the Smith regime in what used to be Rhodesia, and had ambitions to be Prime Minister. He said once that he would stop all immigration if he was successful.

He wasn't - he failed to win on the only occasion he stood for Parliament.

He did some exceptional things, no question - but he wasn't a nice man and certainly not the man portrayed in the Kenneth More film.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:18 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Joe Churcher ‏@JoeChurcher 4m4 minutes ago
Labour general election candidate for Wellingborough - Richard Garvie - suspended by Labour after being convicted of fraud.

What sort of seat is Wellingborough ... please tell me it isn't one Labour could / should win?

It is the loathsome Peter Bone's constituency, another prime example of a turd in a blue rosette; he took it from Labour in 2005 but boundary changes pushed a lot of rural areas into the constituency so Garvie was unlikely to make a dent to be honest.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:19 pm

TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Joe Churcher ‏@JoeChurcher 4m4 minutes ago
Labour general election candidate for Wellingborough - Richard Garvie - suspended by Labour after being convicted of fraud.

What sort of seat is Wellingborough ... please tell me it isn't one Labour could / should win?
It is the loathsome Peter Bone's constituency, another prime example of a turd in a blue rosette; he took it from Labour in 2005 but boundary changes pushed a lot of rural areas into the constituency so Garvie was unlikely to make a dent to be honest.

Phew - thanks for that.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:19 pm

ephemerid wrote:My dad met Douglas Bader.

Hated him as soon as he opened his mouth.

Bader wanted restoration of the death penalty, described unions as "the rabble", thought that apartheid was OK and supportred the Smith regime in what used to be Rhodesia, and had ambitions to be Prime Minister. He said once that he would stop all immigration if he was successful.

He wasn't - he failed to win on the only occasion he stood for Parliament.

He did some exceptional things, no question - but he wasn't a nice man and certainly not the man portrayed in the Kenneth More film.

Your dad sounds like a sound judge of character. And, yes, Lewis Gilbert and Kenneth More flattered the man.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:26 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
TheGrimSqueaker wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:Joe Churcher ‏@JoeChurcher 4m4 minutes ago
Labour general election candidate for Wellingborough - Richard Garvie - suspended by Labour after being convicted of fraud.

What sort of seat is Wellingborough ... please tell me it isn't one Labour could / should win?
It is the loathsome Peter Bone's constituency, another prime example of a turd in a blue rosette; he took it from Labour in 2005 but boundary changes pushed a lot of rural areas into the constituency so Garvie was unlikely to make a dent to be honest.
Phew - thanks for that.

No problem. I guess Wellingborough is most famous for the school, establishment to the core although it has produced one or two interesting people; Andrew Loog Oldham, who used to manage the Rolling Stones, is an old Wellingburian as is Richard Coles, ex-Communard and now priest at nearby Finedon. Richard, who is a diamond geezer, is really the exception that proves the rule as they don't like "that sort of thing" over much in that part of Northamptonshire. It should be prime Kipper country, except Bone is nastier than any Kipper could ever hope to be.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:28 pm

Ah, this is why he was asking people for instances of SNP MPs and MSPs who have rebelled.

Iain Martin ‏@iainmartin1 1m1 minute ago
The SNP is much more control-freakish than New Labour ever was. (My latest for @CapX) http://www.capx.co/why-are-snp-elected- ... ly-craven/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 7:37 pm

Kerry McCarthy ‏@KerryMP 7m7 minutes ago
At @lushbristol animal welfare hustings at @cafekinobristol. Just sampled one of @mightyfoodfight's vegan donuts - very good!

Kerry McCarthy ‏@KerryMP 6m6 minutes ago
Rather disappointing that Libs and Ukip have pulled out, and Tories wouldn't put anyone up, so it's just me, @MrGreenGus and an Independent.

The Tories wouldn't have anything decent to say about animal welfare ... nor would rather a lot of Liberal Democrats ... so not surprised.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:04 pm

Cameron: Some families were getting seventy, eighty, even ninety-thousand pounds Housing Benefit just for one house...

I don't think that's ever been proven. He's challenged on how many families this applied to and responds "well it wasn't a huge number."

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:16 pm

How's everyone's blood pressure?

Mine is being kept under control by retreating away from the TV every few minutes - and also the audience members who clearly aren't being taken in by hamface and his histrionics.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:18 pm

Personally I can't really cope with this much longer. The British insistence on doffing its collective cap to whichever thief or egomaniac is the darling of the press at a given time is starting to undermine my legendary bonne humeur.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:20 pm

Isabel Oakeshott ‏@IsabelOakeshott 5m5 minutes ago
DC will not be taking his jacket off in front of any cameras. He's sweating heavily. V pink #bbcqt

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:21 pm

Ed Balls ‏@edballsmp 2m2 minutes ago
When David Cameron says he doesn't "want" to cut child benefit, he's not ruling out cutting it. He'll cut it again, like he did last time.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:22 pm

Paul johnson ‏@paul__johnson 3m3 minutes ago
Benefits. Bedroom tax. Food banks. Why not debate Miliband. NHS. Accused of lying. Cameron must be pining for Paxman
#bbcqt

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:24 pm

Tom Newton Dunn ‏@tnewtondunn 6m6 minutes ago
Cameron's ducking on where £12bn of welfare cuts will fall pushes him into the negative - Sun's Twitter Worm; http://www.sunnation.co.uk/what-will-tw ... me-debate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:25 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:How's everyone's blood pressure?

Mine is being kept under control by retreating away from the TV every few minutes - and also the audience members who clearly aren't being taken in by hamface and his histrionics.

I lasted about fifteen seconds!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:28 pm

Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 2m2 minutes ago
In last election Cameron's strongest debate performance was his last. At the moment he's on course to repeat the trick.

FFS.

And this isn't a debate. That's the whole point. It's just Cameron choosing to answer what he wants to ... which isn't much.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:28 pm

Hateful man.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:29 pm

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 2m2 minutes ago
Audience member asks Cameron to engage with "moral dimension" rather than merely economic one. Many Tories have said same. #bbcqt

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:29 pm

I've just tried again with the sound down. It's even worse because you see the audience smiling and think they're agreeing with him...Ten seconds....

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:30 pm

This is Cable's former economic advisor.

Giles Wilkes ‏@Gilesyb 4m4 minutes ago Wandsworth, London
Let me tell you, being a Twitter user right now who follows @ToryTreasury is like being trapped with your very worst ever taxi driver.

Giles Wilkes ‏@Gilesyb 3m3 minutes ago Wandsworth, London
Who keeps changing the radio channel to different right wing shock jock channels, violently agreeing all the time.

It is psychic pain

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:30 pm

http://www.sunnation.co.uk/what-will-tw ... me-debate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
am just watching twitter worm with no sound (scroll down a bit)

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:31 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 2m2 minutes ago
In last election Cameron's strongest debate performance was his last. At the moment he's on course to repeat the trick.
FFS.

And this isn't a debate. That's the whole point. It's just Cameron choosing to answer what he wants to ... which isn't much.

Aye he'll be pumped up and letting it rip

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:32 pm

Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 7m7 minutes ago
In last election Cameron's strongest debate performance was his last. At the moment he's on course to repeat the trick.

Post by **refitman** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:42 pm

They seem to have had 3 tory questioners in a row, all asking about borrowing too much.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:44 pm

I've had to turn it off...Felt a scream coming on.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:45 pm

I think we have to accept the fact that unselfish Brits are in the minority.

That's a shame.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:50 pm

i am listening to tonight's Q&A a little behind the broadcast and am infuriated with Cameron equating it to a debate when it is a series of questions that are never fully and frankly answered, just like the PMQs he alludes to as debates. I shall wait for the transcript should one be forthcoming and refute nearly everything that he says. What convinced me was his bringing up Ivan yet again. Well I have a disabled child from birth too Mr. Cameron and although she is still alive I'm also a widower after years of my wife's disability, finally paralysis, and could say some things that hold you to account too.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:51 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 7m7 minutes ago
In last election Cameron's strongest debate performance was his last. At the moment he's on course to repeat the trick.

It is sad how irrational hatred can make people lose all sense of self awareness. Dan is a joke, he is being used by the Telegraph and he is unemployable after next Friday .... and still he thinks his opinion carries weight.

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:51 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Dan Hodges ‏@DPJHodges 7m7 minutes ago
In last election Cameron's strongest debate performance was his last. At the moment he's on course to repeat the trick.

DFH's latest Telegraph piece is a blinder - apparently Cameron is going to waltz into Downing Street, based on a current 2% lead in the polls, which is actually 3 or 4%, the collapse in UKIP (another couple of % Tory lead) and undecided all voting Tory. Hey Presto - Tory overall majority.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:54 pm

Jesus what hope do we have with the press, the BBC, the whole of the establishment desperate to keep Ed out. It sickens me.

Sorry to be a downer. Will go and prepare cup of tea.

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:55 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Jesus what hope do we have with the press, the BBC, the whole of the establishment desperate to keep Ed out. It sickens me.

Sorry to be a downer. Will go and prepare cup of tea.

They won't be in the polling booths next Thursday!!!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:57 pm

I think I'm going to have an early night take a book to bed and cool off. There are even Tories crowing on Twitter...See you guys tomorrow.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:57 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Jesus what hope do we have with the press, the BBC, the whole of the establishment desperate to keep Ed out. It sickens me.

Sorry to be a downer. Will go and prepare cup of tea.

I don't think they could have found a more hostile audience if they had advertised for one.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 8:59 pm

AND AM BLOODY SICK OF ALL THOSE RP ACCENTS ON THE BB BLASTED C

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:02 pm

Very tough questioning of Ed Miliband. He didn't take the easy blustering way out ... stuck to his principles. That's good in my book.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:03 pm

I think that people on here are getting depressed unnecessarily. Ed Miliband is doing very well and is impressive. There are bound to be some stroppy members of the audience. David Cameron by no means charmed the pants off everybody.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:03 pm

Watching on catchup. Just seen the Byrne note. Twat.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:05 pm

PorFavor wrote:I think that people on here are getting depressed unnecessarily. Ed Miliband is doing very well and is impressive. There are bound to be some stroppy members of the audience. David Cameron by no means charmed the pants off everybody.

I'm in late and missed Cameron, did he get a hard time? Twitter seems to think he was great ?

Post by **refitman** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:07 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Watching on catchup. Just seen the Byrne note. Twat.

Have you had Ivan yet?

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:12 pm

refitman wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Watching on catchup. Just seen the Byrne note. Twat.
Have you had Ivan yet?

Just said it.

He's sweating like a pig!

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:16 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
PorFavor wrote:I think that people on here are getting depressed unnecessarily. Ed Miliband is doing very well and is impressive. There are bound to be some stroppy members of the audience. David Cameron by no means charmed the pants off everybody.
I'm in late and missed Cameron, did he get a hard time? Twitter seems to think he was great ?

Why do you think they were bringing over those Republican kids?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 30 Apr, 2015 9:19 pm

Nick Clegg - the most votes and the most seats. Which? David Dimbleby should have pinned him down on this.