Thank you! That's it for my avatar changes.rebeccariots2 wrote:@citizenJA
That's your best avatar yet, citizen. Brill.
In which case tell Harriet to get stuck in to Cameron, use the conference as hustings and get on with it that way. Let's see if any of the candidates actually have charisma.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Don't often disagree with you, but may do so here.TechnicalEphemera wrote:FFS.AngryAsWell wrote:Labour shelves plans to complete leadership election by summer
Contest timetable extended after union leaders admit to needing more time to recruit political levy payers to register as party supporters – and so have a vote
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... evt-payers
Why are we pandering to the Unions. If they haven't got it sorted tough.
We shouldn't fight the last war and presume just because a short leadership campaign would have suited Labour in 2010 it would do so now - the political circumstances are different and nobody expected our result to be this bad (whereas it was at the high end of expectations then)
The party needs to have a proper and frank debate, with as many involved as possible (if any Labour people on here haven't already joined the party, DO SO!)
Not to mention that this time round it is the Blairites who want it all over quickly in the hope of bouncing Chuka on us
They're only 45% of 8% of the electorate. Trouble is, I would expect a very low turnout for an EU referendum so they might have a disproportionate effect on the result. (only 42% turnout for the AV vote).rebeccariots2 wrote:Correction: It's going to be worse, far worse, than either the AV referendum or the Indy referendum. That tactic takes some beating for duh stakes.Mike Gapes retweeted
Robbie Travers @RobbieTravers 2h2 hours ago
From the geniuses who brought you "Vote #SNP for a #Labour," comes "Vote Yes to leave the EU, for indyref two."
It's as though he's just started to understand how difficult politics and being a politician actually is ... the number of twists and scrapings he's done is sickening.AngryAsWell wrote:Mirror Politics @MirrorPolitics · 10 mins10 minutes ago
Russell Brand admits he 'F****d up the election' for Ed Miliband http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ru ... up-5688090 …
I think there will be a big turnout because Cameron has made it a pretty totemic issue ... and Ukip and the media are going to really give it some. The horror story will be if every camp is spinning tales about the motives and likely actions of the other camps which then influences voters to behave in certain ways ... i.e. a rerun of what we have just had.Eric_WLothian wrote:They're only 45% of 8% of the electorate. Trouble is, I would expect a very low turnout for an EU referendum so they might have a disproportionate effect on the result. (only 42% turnout for the AV vote).rebeccariots2 wrote:Correction: It's going to be worse, far worse, than either the AV referendum or the Indy referendum. That tactic takes some beating for duh stakes.Mike Gapes retweeted
Robbie Travers @RobbieTravers 2h2 hours ago
From the geniuses who brought you "Vote #SNP for a #Labour," comes "Vote Yes to leave the EU, for indyref two."
What is he supposed to have done to deserve the suspension?AngryAsWell wrote:Twitter suspends Labour campaigners account days after election - A bit late in on this, mainly as I just dip in and out of twitter since the election, but Jon-Swindon has lost his twitter account
http://www.newtekjournalismukworld.com/ ... r-election
If you followed him and would like to re find him he's here
https://twitter.com/swindon81
But can we believe them?Tim Montgomerie ن @montie 13h13 hours ago
"Lazy Labour" (younger left not turning out) rather than #shytories is problem for pollsters, argues @benatipsosmori
"Targeted abuse" is what they have said, will him give no more details.rebeccariots2 wrote:What is he supposed to have done to deserve the suspension?AngryAsWell wrote:Twitter suspends Labour campaigners account days after election - A bit late in on this, mainly as I just dip in and out of twitter since the election, but Jon-Swindon has lost his twitter account
http://www.newtekjournalismukworld.com/ ... r-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you followed him and would like to re find him he's here
https://twitter.com/swindon81" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is untargeted abuse OK?AngryAsWell wrote:"Targeted abuse" is what they have said, will him give no more details.rebeccariots2 wrote:What is he supposed to have done to deserve the suspension?AngryAsWell wrote:Twitter suspends Labour campaigners account days after election - A bit late in on this, mainly as I just dip in and out of twitter since the election, but Jon-Swindon has lost his twitter account
http://www.newtekjournalismukworld.com/ ... r-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you followed him and would like to re find him he's here
https://twitter.com/swindon81" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for the link, I've not actually seen the film, but will do so now.Tony2602 wrote:Hi Angry. Well, it wasn't easy. But like I said on Saturday, they're going on the list (when the shit hits the fan they'll be the first to come bitching to the union rep). All I could think of at the time was this:
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And you know, I really think we're approaching that moment. God help us.
No.rebeccariots2 wrote:But can we believe them?Tim Montgomerie ن @montie 13h13 hours ago
"Lazy Labour" (younger left not turning out) rather than #shytories is problem for pollsters, argues @benatipsosmori
Perhaps - but if only around 70% turn out for a GE, I don't have high hopes for a vote on an issue that many will (wrongly) think doesn't really affect them.rebeccariots2 wrote:I think there will be a big turnout because Cameron has made it a pretty totemic issue ... and Ukip and the media are going to really give it some. The horror story will be if every camp is spinning tales about the motives and likely actions of the other camps which then influences voters to behave in certain ways ... i.e. a rerun of what we have just had.Eric_WLothian wrote:They're only 45% of 8% of the electorate. Trouble is, I would expect a very low turnout for an EU referendum so they might have a disproportionate effect on the result. (only 42% turnout for the AV vote).rebeccariots2 wrote: Correction: It's going to be worse, far worse, than either the AV referendum or the Indy referendum. That tactic takes some beating for duh stakes.
James Chapman (Mail) retweeted
Paul Middleton @DrPaulMiddleton 7m7 minutes ago Chester, England
Can't believe @EvanHD has just asked @SimonHughes if he cried. Stop it! @BBCNewsnight #newsnight
rebeccariots2 wrote:What is he supposed to have done to deserve the suspension?AngryAsWell wrote:Twitter suspends Labour campaigners account days after election - A bit late in on this, mainly as I just dip in and out of twitter since the election, but Jon-Swindon has lost his twitter account
http://www.newtekjournalismukworld.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... r-election
If you followed him and would like to re find him he's here
https://twitter.com/swindon81" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Goodnight, AAWAngryAsWell wrote:Night all
Oh, what's that, Tim Montgomerie? You're posting polling data surrounding the 2015 GE like we're supposed to do anything more than laugh at lies? The polling data speaks for itself. Nonsense.AngryAsWell wrote:No.rebeccariots2 wrote:But can we believe them?Tim Montgomerie ن @montie 13h13 hours ago
"Lazy Labour" (younger left not turning out) rather than #shytories is problem for pollsters, argues @benatipsosmori
On your head be it, Sajid Javid. You & your government will be held accountable for actions taken & actions neglected. We live our truth every day. No one escapes it. History teaches us this.thatchersorphan wrote:As the first all-Tory cabinet for 18 years celebrated victory, ministers were faced with the first national rail strike in more than 20 years.
Immediately declaring war on the unions, new Business Secretary Sajid Javid said curbing the power of the unions would be a “priority” in the Queen’s Speech on May 27.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... ns-5688265" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Defra 'breaking law' by not restoring hacked air-quality website, say usersAs the UK National Air Quality Monitoring System from the Derfra (uk-air.defra.gov.uk) is currently not working (since April 8th 2015), we are unable to provide data for Stoke-on-Trent Centre station.
While the Derfra is working on resolving the issue, you can check the gov.uk air quality forecast webpage, or their forecast tweets (on the left).
Stoke-on-Trent Centre AQI: Stoke-on-Trent Centre Real-time Air Quality Index (AQI).
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no data
http://aqicn.org/city/united-kingdom/st ... nt-centre/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Xmikems wrote:The UN Charter is supposed to be our guiding light in how to build decent societies.I dunno, a sort of standard to rally round, as I'm always so aware we have no constitution or code that does this.
Don't. Just don't engage with them at all. It's a kind of collective insanity. I used to think otherwise, but having seen it in action close up, I changed my mind. It's beyond rational. You might rescue a person flirting with the idea of voting for them, but you'll not change a full blown kipper, their party is the pretty end of their views.Tony2602 wrote:Evening all, a quick observation for you.
Today, I was unlucky enough to be trapped into a conversation with a couple of kippers. Apparantly Fuhrage is saying in public what "we" are all saying behind closed doors. Stupidly I took the bait, and asked what exactly it was that "we" are thinking. Immigrants, came the answer. Hordes of them. They're getting free council houses, taking over, and they're only pretending to be escaping from war zones and genocide. Fuhrage is right about them, apparantly.
Trying to keep my temper in check, I pointed out that my parents were immigrants, but they seemed to object to my taking their rampant kippery personally. I went on to explain that the lack of social housing was not the fault of immigrants, nor was the tanking economy (construction sector has had three quarters of negative growth), nor was the lack of investment in the don't NHS, transport and so on. They merely gaped at me like landed fish (for pointing at?) and went but-but-but.
Just how do you respond to this kippery without committing murder? Any ideas?
It's so clever the use of that song, it gets into your brain in such a disturbing way. The only one you won't sing. Half a century on I don't have to listen, a reminder is enough. Are UKIP Thatchers real children?TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Not just me who hears this every time Odious speaks then?Tony2602 wrote:Hi Angry. Well, it wasn't easy. But like I said on Saturday, they're going on the list (when the shit hits the fan they'll be the first to come bitching to the union rep). All I could think of at the time was this:
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And you know, I really think we're approaching that moment. God help us.
The sun on the meadow is summery warm.
The stag in the forest runs free.
But gather together to greet the storm.
Tomorrow belongs to me.
Night Ephe. Night all.
