Friday 10th July 2015

mbc1955 · Post by **mbc1955** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:38 pm

Temulkar wrote:For anyone who is interested, my novel is published by Holland House Books on 1st August. It's on pre-order now and available at all the usual outlets and indy stores. http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Last-Roundh ... 1909374644

Featuring David Cameron's 9x great grandfather(expelled from Parliament for lying to the house in 1628); it's been picked as one of the UK's top ten books being released in August by Netgalley http://blog.netgalley.com/the-uks-top-t ... gust-2015/ and I have been asked by the new National Civil War Centre in Newark to give a talk on launchday for anyone in the area who is interested.http://www.nationalcivilwarcentre.com/e ... tarian.php

Congratulations. I hope it proves to be very successful for you in whatever way you wish - especially in money.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:41 pm

Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 3h3 hours ago
1st Tory Govt U-turn of the Parliament confirmed (though slipped out via PQ). Gove axes Mega Borstal plan http://www.parliament.uk/business/publi ... 7-06/5710/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

That can't be the first one - surely? They've gone back on quite a few election lies / pledges already.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:41 pm

Millifandom leader crowdfunds interviews with Labour candidates
Abby Tomlinson has already filmed interview with Andy Burnham and Jeremy Corbyn for video blog funded using Byline platform

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/j ... n-popbitch" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure I understand the Byline Platform, it seems to be like investigative journalism where you pay them to investigate a subject ?
https://www.byline.com/column/18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:45 pm

Families of disabled kids 'pushed into poverty' because they're 'TOO ILL' celebrate after beating heartless Tories in court
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fa ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Department for Work and Pensions suspend Disability Living Allowance for those in hospital under the age of 16 after that three-month period has elapsed because the Tories claim that by that point the child is in the care of the hospital and not their family.

They are just shits - complete and utter shits.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:45 pm

How's that "socialism" going SNP?
Labour health spokeswoman Jenny Marra said SNP ministers had been in “denial” about the problems facing the NHS for too long and must act on the concerns and recommendations

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/ne ... ithin-nhs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:47 pm

Sustainability of the National Health Service as a Public
Service Free at the Point of Need
9 July 2015

Founded in 1948, the NHS in England has always been based on the principle of providing quality
healthcare, which is free at the point of need. However, over recent years, there have been increasing
pressures on the NHS finances, leading to concerns the organisation may face a growing annual funding
gap. As such, the NHS has been encouraged to make efficiency savings, increase productivity and
improve value for money. The organisation also intends to tackle its financial pressures by taking
measures to improve public health, thus reduce spending on treatments and admissions. This Library
Note considers some of these issues, providing analysis on current NHS finances and highlighting
recommendations on how the service can meet its demands.

Russell Taylor
6 July 2015
LLN 2015/019

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ ... -2015-0019" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:51 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Families of disabled kids 'pushed into poverty' because they're 'TOO ILL' celebrate after beating heartless Tories in court
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fa ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Department for Work and Pensions suspend Disability Living Allowance for those in hospital under the age of 16 after that three-month period has elapsed because the Tories claim that by that point the child is in the care of the hospital and not their family.
They are just shits - complete and utter shits.

I know.
I cried over that story.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:52 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Millifandom leader crowdfunds interviews with Labour candidates
Abby Tomlinson has already filmed interview with Andy Burnham and Jeremy Corbyn for video blog funded using Byline platform

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/j ... n-popbitch" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure I understand the Byline Platform, it seems to be like investigative journalism where you pay them to investigate a subject ?
https://www.byline.com/column/18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A little more about Byline

https://www.byline.com/manifesto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:52 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Millifandom leader crowdfunds interviews with Labour candidates
Abby Tomlinson has already filmed interview with Andy Burnham and Jeremy Corbyn for video blog funded using Byline platform

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/j ... n-popbitch" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure I understand the Byline Platform, it seems to be like investigative journalism where you pay them to investigate a subject ?
https://www.byline.com/column/18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't understand it.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 3:53 pm

Anyone worried that I might be losing the little vocabulary I have ... yes, I know, I do seem to be using 'utter' in front of a term of abuse rather a lot lately - fear not. You know those times when you respond to something without even thinking - the words just fly out and you wonder how on earth you could have brought such stuff forth - what could have prompted such sideways connections between brain and mouth?

Well ... I was watching Question Time in a kind of quiet horrified fascination (Anna Soubry as a Thatcher parody with an independently operated mechanical mouth) as Mr Riots came in last night.

When the other shouty shouty woman on the panel got going he said 'who's that?' with a pained expression. Without any pause I said - all in one go - 'Ukipper Louise de Bours - phlegm in a dress'.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 4:11 pm

They shouldered the crash. Now we are beginning to pay young people back
For too long, too many have been left outside workplaces, homes and universities, noses pressed to the window. No longer will they be excluded from the opportunities older generations enjoyed
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ity-houses" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unbelievable hypocritical rubbish from David Willetts ...

I searched in vain for any specific evidence in his article of the wonderful opportunities and help this government is making available to young people.

They've just kicked the shit out of them in the budget FFS.

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 4:33 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Families of disabled kids 'pushed into poverty' because they're 'TOO ILL' celebrate after beating heartless Tories in court
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fa ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Department for Work and Pensions suspend Disability Living Allowance for those in hospital under the age of 16 after that three-month period has elapsed because the Tories claim that by that point the child is in the care of the hospital and not their family.
They are just shits - complete and utter shits.

I may be wrong but feel sure this applied to adults too, rebecca. We claimed DLA for my wife about a year after her stroke and I think it stopped during her 4 month stay in hospital after a brain haemorrhage. I may be wrong as it followed her to the care home when she was discharged. I never queried what was done with it but there was no sign of it having being used for her benefit; she just lay paralysed in a cot bed. Even the specialised chair that was being made for her (just to sit in not a wheelchair) never came to fruition, repeatedly being measured up whenever I chased it up. All revenues toward the cost of her care I guess.

Meanwhile our family household costs were just the same plus my having to contribute toward care home costs too. I've no idea how it was worked out, I was just presented a monthly figure by Social Services without any means-testing to be paid to the home. I usually had to pay by credit card.

Edit: The care home was not my choice in both senses. Firstly she was not allowed home because of the nursing deemed necessary, but insufficient for hospital and then the placement I had chosen under duress fell through leaving me with Hobson's choice. Shithole it was too as far as I was concerned and neither was she cared for as much as she would have been had she been allowed home. 'And I was paying for this!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 4:44 pm

UDreams

Yes 28 days for adults.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 4:46 pm

Temulkar wrote:For anyone who is interested, my novel is published by Holland House Books on 1st August. It's on pre-order now and available at all the usual outlets and indy stores. http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Last-Roundh ... 1909374644

Featuring David Cameron's 9x great grandfather(expelled from Parliament for lying to the house in 1628); it's been picked as one of the UK's top ten books being released in August by Netgalley http://blog.netgalley.com/the-uks-top-t ... gust-2015/ and I have been asked by the new National Civil War Centre in Newark to give a talk on launchday for anyone in the area who is interested.http://www.nationalcivilwarcentre.com/e ... tarian.php

Congratulations @Tem! That's on my list and I wish you every success

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:05 pm

AQ tonight has Nicky Morgan and Chuka, (again!). I have a query about this programme and QT. Do the parties nominate someone or do these programmes invite someone they want without reference to the parties?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:14 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
Here you go.

http://studioschoolstrust.org/node/3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Studio School is a new concept in education, which seeks to address the growing gap between the skills and knowledge that young people require to succeed, and those that the current education system provides. Studio Schools pioneer a bold new approach to learning which includes teaching through enterprise projects and real work. This approach ensures students' learning in is rooted in the real world and helps them to develop the skills they need to flourish in life. For detailed information, please read the Studio Schools Brochure.
Clear now?

Nope. Me neither.

I'm clear on what that is. Basically a UTC? Blah, blah, kids these days are bored in school doing silly academic nonsense, need to learn skills, work ready, blah, blah, my dad started work at 14.

But most parents aren't going to take their kids out of their regular school at 14, unless they're really doing badly.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:14 pm

Corbyn is now second to Andy Burnham in the leadership election....

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:16 pm

Comedy of free school errors from Bournemouth. Credit to OP (Esqui, Mailwatch).

Some may remember it opened a year late as they had trouble finding a place in the town, and then found an office block as a temporary site 'while a permanent site in Bournemouth town centre was secured'. And even then pupils were taught at a scouting centre for two weeks while they finished it off. Fast forward two years, their permanent site ends up being an old Air Traffic Control college several miles outside Bournemouth, right next door to the airport (I'm sure the jet fuels will do wonders for the kids). There is one road up to the airport, which gets very heavy with traffic already - but this was not considered to be a problem. And the asbestos in the building was considered to be a 'good thing' as it meant that some parts would need to be completely rebuilt. In May this year, an Ofsted inspection rated the school as "requires improvement", citing that the most able pupils were not achieving their potential, and that the staff were not properly monitoring teaching and being too generous in its own self-evaluation.

In June, it was revealed that there would be no contract for a school bus at the new site (due to open in September), meaning that pupils would have to rely on the public airport bus route to get to and from school at a cost of £650 per year (no subsidies). Shortly after, workers at the site discovered bats roosting in one of the buildings (because what is an initial survey?), meaning that work had to stop completely. It was later announced that the new site wouldn't be open for another year, leaving the kids in an office block and car pa- I mean, playground- for another 12 months.

My Mum is taking my brother and sister out of the school, and I understand a lot of other parents are doing the same. This could end up quite badly...

And there's more.

The Department for Education (publicly funded) can not comment on a "private" meeting between the Education Funding Agency (publicly funded) and Parkfield School (publicly funded).
Parkfield School is turning into a financial scandal, and no one can find out just how much taxpayers money has been wasted.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:23 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Comedy of free school errors from Bournemouth. Credit to OP (Esqui, Mailwatch).

Some may remember it opened a year late as they had trouble finding a place in the town, and then found an office block as a temporary site 'while a permanent site in Bournemouth town centre was secured'. And even then pupils were taught at a scouting centre for two weeks while they finished it off. Fast forward two years, their permanent site ends up being an old Air Traffic Control college several miles outside Bournemouth, right next door to the airport (I'm sure the jet fuels will do wonders for the kids). There is one road up to the airport, which gets very heavy with traffic already - but this was not considered to be a problem. And the asbestos in the building was considered to be a 'good thing' as it meant that some parts would need to be completely rebuilt. In May this year, an Ofsted inspection rated the school as "requires improvement", citing that the most able pupils were not achieving their potential, and that the staff were not properly monitoring teaching and being too generous in its own self-evaluation.

In June, it was revealed that there would be no contract for a school bus at the new site (due to open in September), meaning that pupils would have to rely on the public airport bus route to get to and from school at a cost of £650 per year (no subsidies). Shortly after, workers at the site discovered bats roosting in one of the buildings (because what is an initial survey?), meaning that work had to stop completely. It was later announced that the new site wouldn't be open for another year, leaving the kids in an office block and car pa- I mean, playground- for another 12 months.

My Mum is taking my brother and sister out of the school, and I understand a lot of other parents are doing the same. This could end up quite badly...
And there's more.

The Department for Education (publicly funded) can not comment on a "private" meeting between the Education Funding Agency (publicly funded) and Parkfield School (publicly funded).
Parkfield School is turning into a financial scandal, and no one can find out just how much taxpayers money has been wasted.

'Parkfield' School. They picked the right name for that one, eh.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:26 pm

HuffPostUK Politics ‏@HuffPostUKPol 29m29 minutes ago
Paul McCartney's fox hunting warning proves the Tories are fooling no one http://huff.to/1Tq1MW2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:30 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Comedy of free school errors from Bournemouth. Credit to OP (Esqui, Mailwatch).

Some may remember it opened a year late as they had trouble finding a place in the town, and then found an office block as a temporary site 'while a permanent site in Bournemouth town centre was secured'. And even then pupils were taught at a scouting centre for two weeks while they finished it off. Fast forward two years, their permanent site ends up being an old Air Traffic Control college several miles outside Bournemouth, right next door to the airport (I'm sure the jet fuels will do wonders for the kids). There is one road up to the airport, which gets very heavy with traffic already - but this was not considered to be a problem. And the asbestos in the building was considered to be a 'good thing' as it meant that some parts would need to be completely rebuilt. In May this year, an Ofsted inspection rated the school as "requires improvement", citing that the most able pupils were not achieving their potential, and that the staff were not properly monitoring teaching and being too generous in its own self-evaluation.

In June, it was revealed that there would be no contract for a school bus at the new site (due to open in September), meaning that pupils would have to rely on the public airport bus route to get to and from school at a cost of £650 per year (no subsidies). Shortly after, workers at the site discovered bats roosting in one of the buildings (because what is an initial survey?), meaning that work had to stop completely. It was later announced that the new site wouldn't be open for another year, leaving the kids in an office block and car pa- I mean, playground- for another 12 months.

My Mum is taking my brother and sister out of the school, and I understand a lot of other parents are doing the same. This could end up quite badly...
And there's more.

The Department for Education (publicly funded) can not comment on a "private" meeting between the Education Funding Agency (publicly funded) and Parkfield School (publicly funded).
Parkfield School is turning into a financial scandal, and no one can find out just how much taxpayers money has been wasted.
'Parkfield' School. They picked the right name for that one, eh.

The thing that amuses? me, is that these free schools seem to appoint a head long before the first brick is laid...

utopiandreams · Post by **utopiandreams** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:31 pm

A final addition to my last post before I forcefully change my topic of thought (babysitting soon anyway). At no time was my wife deemed terminally ill. Well never to me, the doctors and nurses always spoke of recovery, even after the four month hospital stay where she received physio (manipulation) every day. At the care home? Once a week and coincidentally never ever when I was there even though most of my days were spent at her bedside.

She was accommodated about as far from the offices and hives of activity as was possible. Difficult as it was for her with some control of her left hand, not arm, the call button was always placed out of reach (3ft away). I used to do most of my work on my laptop when she was asleep. To add insult to her injury, she always blamed me for not allowing her home, whereas that was all that I was trying to do. Even when equipped, there were insufficient nurses available for home visits. I'm speaking of before the Tory cuts to services too. Of course despite my work I must have been a shirker not to have afforded it myself.

Sorry for such a downer folks. Now to put a smile on my face... See you.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:34 pm

Having real difficulty posting here at the mo ... anyone else?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:35 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Corbyn is now second to Andy Burnham in the leadership election....

To be more precise, he is second in term of CLP nominations. These don't actually count for anything beyond morale boosting (in the old days it was, of course, different)

Though it might be worth pointing out that Kendall is 4th, with just 4. That may not be totally insignificant, tbh.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:46 pm

People are really going to notice” the next wave of cuts coming to Reading - a staggering £39 million to be axed in the next three years.

That was the regretful warning from leader of Reading Borough Council Councillor Jo Lovelock who admits now that nothing is off limits for cuts, including libraries, public loos and grants to the voluntary sector which have so far been protected.

She was preparing the way for £7.24 million worth of cuts to be approved at the policy committee meeting on Monday, July 20.
Those cuts will be followed by a further £16.27 million as yet unidentified reductions which will have to be found during the budget calculations for next year 2016/17

Reading’s usable budget - the part that is not ring-fenced for schools and council housing and therefore exempt for cuts - will have to shrink from £125 million this year 2014/15 to £83 million by 2018/19 - a plummeting £42 million.

Around 50 posts will be lost in this first wave of cuts from the 2,500 council staff.
There has already been a reduction of 700 jobs in the last five years with a total of 500 more job losses coming over the next few years.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local- ... 7m-9628223

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:49 pm

Frightful_oik-My niece happens to be in the audience at AQ tonight,in Manchester.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:52 pm

Opinion: Fox Hunting Vote Crucial to Lib Dems’ Reputation
http://www.libdemvoice.org/opinion-fox- ... 46710.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 5:55 pm

Cllr Lovelock said: “If a customer is in receipt of housing benefits and council tax support, and their tax credits are cut, then under current rules they will be entitled to additional housing benefit and additional council tax support.

“If they have not been in receipt of housing benefit and/or council tax support before, they may become entitled for the first time.
The cost of additional council tax support will have to be borne by the local authority as the scheme is a local scheme, unless we choose to consider changing our scheme for the next financial year.
Where families are not in receipt of housing benefit or council tax support then they will obviously see a reduction in their household income.”

She said people on tax credits might also qualify for
prescriptions and other health-related costs
vitamins, milk and food if pregnant or have a child under four
maternity costs - a £500 payment called sure start maternity grant
school costs, including school meals, uniforms, transport and trips
funeral costs
court fees, legal costs and prison visits
home repairs from the council
heating and energy costs
She went on: “Therefore if these are cut, families may see their help with these additional cost removed.

“Moving forward, tax credits will form part of the universal credit (UC) payment and therefore that may impact managing the family budget on a day-to-day basis as rather than receiving them in between other awards, the payment will be aligned with the UC payment and form part of it.”

http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local- ... me-9625741

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 6:26 pm

utopiandreams wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Families of disabled kids 'pushed into poverty' because they're 'TOO ILL' celebrate after beating heartless Tories in court
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fa ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Department for Work and Pensions suspend Disability Living Allowance for those in hospital under the age of 16 after that three-month period has elapsed because the Tories claim that by that point the child is in the care of the hospital and not their family.
They are just shits - complete and utter shits.
I may be wrong but feel sure this applied to adults too, rebecca. We claimed DLA for my wife about a year after her stroke and I think it stopped during her 4 month stay in hospital after a brain haemorrhage. I may be wrong as it followed her to the care home when she was discharged. I never queried what was done with it but there was no sign of it having being used for her benefit; she just lay paralysed in a cot bed. Even the specialised chair that was being made for her (just to sit in not a wheelchair) never came to fruition, repeatedly being measured up whenever I chased it up. All revenues toward the cost of her care I guess.

Meanwhile our family household costs were just the same plus my having to contribute toward care home costs too. I've no idea how it was worked out, I was just presented a monthly figure by Social Services without any means-testing to be paid to the home. I usually had to pay by credit card.

Edit: The care home was not my choice in both senses. Firstly she was not allowed home because of the nursing deemed necessary, but insufficient for hospital and then the placement I had chosen under duress fell through leaving me with Hobson's choice. Shithole it was too as far as I was concerned and neither was she cared for as much as she would have been had she been allowed home. 'And I was paying for this!

I'm so sorry, utopiandreams. Sounds dreadful. I'd read elsewhere of this kind of arrangement happening all the time - being sent a payment statement for who knows what! Sounds just like the US. Horrible. That'd burn me too, having to pay for substandard service because a private business landed the contract & it's all that's available. Crazy - what Big Government is accused of doing - monopoly of inadequate service except no one voted for these monster multi-national corporations & regular people pay more for worse service.
Thank you for sharing your experience, though it's awful. I'm sorry.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 6:29 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Having real difficulty posting here at the mo ... anyone else?

It's slow but I've not had the troubles with error messages like I did yesterday.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 6:32 pm

Why the EU's increasing failure to protect nature means I may vote no
George Monbiot
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The left euro-sceptics gain another voice ...

I haven't read this yet - but if he's right and the wildlife environmental protections are being watered down that's really not good enough.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 7:24 pm

I gave the cast list for next week's AQ. Tonight it's Farron, Leslie, Lamont and Merryn Somerset Web.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 7:26 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.

I was impressed by Jeremy Corbyn's ability to express his thoughts and opinions passionately and without using the standard stock political phrases.
Is he electable? That's the big question.
Unfortunately (or otherwise) I doubt it.

For me its not so much his views on domestic matters but his sometimes rather dodgy foreign policy associations that rule him out.

Though even if he is unlikely to win, it looks like he will do decently (significantly better than Abbott in 2010)

That should give pause for thought with both the Labour right and the MSM.......
This wont help him.

An open letter to Jeremy Corbyn
Alan Johnson
16 June, 2015 (4 weeks ago)

As the most left-wing candidate you should get my vote. But you won't. And here's why.

http://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/an-o ... my-corbyn/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't agree with the author of that piece to Corbyn.

...Labour’s best traditions also include anti-fascism and internationalism while your support – to me, inexplicable and shameful – for the fascistic and antisemitic forces of Hezbollah and Hamas flies in the face of those traditions. In particular, your full-throated cheer-leading for the vicious antisemitic Islamist Raed Salah is a deal-breaker.

Why did you lend your support to Raed Salah? No, he is not a ‘critic of Israel’, but a straight-up Jew hater.

I've read Alan Johnson's work & looked into his links. I'm a friend to Israel, I support no terrorist organisation, I work for non-violent cooperation & dialogue between people, nations, communities. I can't support Israel's violence against Palestine, or any Palestinian violence against Israel. It's that simple. Mr. Johnson's article is inflammatory, difficult to follow due to the accusations in them. I'm specifically referencing Johnson's anger & vitriolic hyperbole when describing Corbyn's words & actions.

"Why did you lend your support to Raed Salah? No, he is not a ‘critic of Israel’, but a straight-up Jew hater."

Mr. Johnson, people may not hurt others regardless of who they are, what they believe, what they advocate or what they've done or are accused of doing. 'Lending support'? The list of 'support' you accuse Corbyn of offering Raed Salah concerns me greatly. Your accusations of 'support' Corbyn has shown for 'a straight-up Jew hater' isn't appropriate given what Corbyn has done, in my opinion & I can't join you vilifying Corbyn's words & actions as you've described them.

I continue to work for justice using non-violent means of resolving conflict. I ask everyone to do the same. At every stage of conflict, I walk one step at a time causing no harm. It's impossible to hear you, Mr. Johnson, over your shouting. Please excuse me.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 7:50 pm

Would Jeremy Corbyn have worked toward a resolution of conflict involving Israel, Palestine, the world, Mr. Johnson, by calling Raed Salah 'a straight-up Jew hater' at the time you're documenting?
What do you want from people?
From the Labour party?
"...your full-throated cheer-leading for the vicious antisemitic Islamist Raed Salah is a deal-breaker."
Is that going to help resolve conflicts, Mr. Johnson, page after page of sentences like this?
It's frightening to read your words.
Do you want violence to end or not?
Do you want an end to violence against all people?
Peace must begin inside you first.
That's my opinion, anyway.

http://leftfootforward.org/2015/06/an-o ... my-corbyn/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 8:15 pm

I've read that Monbiot piece now. Very unusually for me I agree with every word ...
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's something we can do as individuals to try and stop the march of the technocrats and corporates ...

... the European commission’s proposals to “reform” the directives, are likely to make them worse, not better. The danger is that it will leave their irrational aspects intact, while stripping away the essential protections they offer to our wildlife.

No one is in any doubt that the reform being proposed is the kind that is usually enacted with a can of petrol and a box of matches. In November last year, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, instructed the environment commissioner to “overhaul” the directives and to examine the possibility of merging them. A reliable if sometimes eccentric set of protections is now at mortal risk.

A public consultation on these proposals is taking place at the moment, and it closes on 24 July. I’ll repeat that because the only hope these directives possess is a huge public response calling for their defence. The consultation closes on 24 July. Please send in your views. Already, 270,000 people have done so, prompted by campaigning organisations such as the RSPB. Let’s turn this into half a million.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 8:32 pm

What's Monbiot's thinking? Vote No and the EU becomes better?

In November last year, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, instructed the environment commissioner to “overhaul” the directives and to examine the possibility of merging them.

Juncker does what the member state governments want.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 8:34 pm

Bit more on Bournemouth. OP Esqui has found the now deleted March newsletter.

However, currently, there is a significant amount of asbestos in one of

the buildings. This is the large imposing building in the centre of the

site which, in the original design, was to accommodate the secondary

classrooms, the main hall and the dining hall. Following the surveys it

was decided that renovation of this building was not deemed to be

cost effective and that it would need to be demolished. This obviously

meant that the whole layout of the school had to be redesigned adding

to the delays in signing off the project.

One of the positive consequences resulting from the re-design is that

we will now have a new build main hall as well as the new sports hall

Interesting approach to budgeting there. You mucked up? Have a new build main hall as well.

I'd have thought the sports hall could have doubled as the main hall. In the primary school I volunteered at, the main hall doubled as the canteen.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 8:38 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:What's Monbiot's thinking? Vote No and the EU becomes better?

In November last year, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, instructed the environment commissioner to “overhaul” the directives and to examine the possibility of merging them.
Juncker does what the member state governments want.

His point is that one of the central reasons that many support the EU for ... environmental protections ... seems to be being corrupted - on the wane - along with other issues. I don't see why his possibly voting No has to be aligned to making the EU better ... surely he will be voting to come out of it rather than try and do that?

I understand his disillusionment - and feelings of divided loyalty - the analogy he makes with the BBC is a good one.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 8:51 pm

The threat to the directives arises not from a demand by business as a whole, but from pressure by two of the most destructive industries in the EU, Big Farmer and the construction lobby. That the European commission should have chosen to listen to them while ignoring the views of everyone else cuts to the heart of what is going wrong there.

So when the referendum comes, I will find myself in a struggle I never anticipated. I am an internationalist. I think it’s essential that issues which transcend national borders are tackled together, rather than apart. I recognise the hideous history of conflict in Europe, and the extraordinary achievement of peace that the European Union represents. I feel nothing in common with the Eurosceptics of the right, who appear to see the EU as interfering with their god-given right to exploit other people and destroy their surroundings.

Monbiot's criticism of the EU here is good. My position regarding the EU is like Monbiot's, the action required to protect the environment must have global cooperation. I've hitherto thought the EU, generally speaking, an agent of good regarding the environment; at least better than current Tory government are regarding the environment. They probably still are. It's not a high standard though, that's an aside. I'd still vote to remain in the EU.

I'll fill out the Public consultation as part of the Fitness Check of the EU nature legislation (Birds and Habitats Directives) survey linked in his article. I've posted the link below.

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edited to correct spelling & add information

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 8:55 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:What's Monbiot's thinking? Vote No and the EU becomes better?

In November last year, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, instructed the environment commissioner to “overhaul” the directives and to examine the possibility of merging them.
Juncker does what the member state governments want.

Yes, same here on Monbiot's thinking.
He's probably just trying to get everyone's attention on EU changes.
Agree too with Juncker; I'm sorry I can't think better of him.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 9:01 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:What's Monbiot's thinking? Vote No and the EU becomes better?

In November last year, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, instructed the environment commissioner to “overhaul” the directives and to examine the possibility of merging them.
Juncker does what the member state governments want.
His point is that one of the central reasons that many support the EU for ... environmental protections ... seems to be being corrupted - on the wane - along with other issues. I don't see why his possibly voting No has to be aligned to making the EU better ... surely he will be voting to come out of it rather than try and do that?

I understand his disillusionment - and feelings of divided loyalty - the analogy he makes with the BBC is a good one.

Agree with your points here too, RR2.
I can't speak for Monbiot, I don't mind his position, I wouldn't vote for the UK out of the EU myself over this though I think it's every bit as serious an issue as Monbiot finds it. The UK has a powerful position within the EU & Tories don't last forever.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 9:08 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:What's Monbiot's thinking? Vote No and the EU becomes better?

In November last year, Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, instructed the environment commissioner to “overhaul” the directives and to examine the possibility of merging them.
Juncker does what the member state governments want.
His point is that one of the central reasons that many support the EU for ... environmental protections ... seems to be being corrupted - on the wane - along with other issues. I don't see why his possibly voting No has to be aligned to making the EU better ... surely he will be voting to come out of it rather than try and do that?

I understand his disillusionment - and feelings of divided loyalty - the analogy he makes with the BBC is a good one.

Because the EU basically makes non-members do what it wants anyway.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 9:11 pm

Rowson on Osborne's planning reforms, entitled "Homes for the Future!!" and featuring Cameron astride FatCat chasing his fox through 'Productivitiville', in the dank fenced-off shadows below Osborne Heights and Prosperity Tower:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ms-cartoon

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 9:26 pm

http://julesbirch.com/2015/07/09/work-h ... t-screwed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Work hard, do the right thing – and get screwed

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 10:02 pm

Owen Jones ‏@OwenJones84 3m3 minutes ago
"Unfortunately Owen Jones couldn't make it this year so this time he's sent his son." How I was introduced at Durham Miners Gala dinner.

No flies on them.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 10:17 pm

Seeing Andy Burnham on the 24th, be interesting to compare and contrast with Corbyn.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 10:41 pm

goodnight, everyone
love
cJA

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 10:44 pm

Goodnight @cJA – sleep well.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 11:40 pm

David Cameron 'to demand UK should be exempt from EU employment laws'

What can you say ?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/da ... uk-6045630" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 10 Jul, 2015 11:42 pm

Daily Mirror ‏@DailyMirror 3m3 minutes ago
David Cameron 'to demand UK should be exempt from EU employment laws' http://mirr.im/1NURV6F" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What's that Sajid? You what ...? You reckon this plus the so called National Living Wage will have those EU migrants coming here in mega busloads ... and ... you've just told everyone that won't happen and you don't want to look even more stupid than you do already ... Toughen up Sajid ... you need to get better at, enjoy the lying much more ... you obviously didn't have your head put down the toilet and flushed on enough times. Get a grip man.