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Left Futures ‏@leftfutures 4h4 hours ago
Angela Eagle: “Political elite need to lay off Jeremy Corbyn” | by @JFGElliott http://wp.me/pVJrF-blz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
... Writing to members, Eagle said, “I would happily serve under anyone the members choose to be our leader. Why? Because I respect the wisdom of our members, supporters and affiliates and our Party’s process of electing a new leadership team. Every candidate has the right to be heard and put forward a vision for Labour’s future and, whether you agree with Jeremy Corbyn or not, he is in the race and is entitled to participate. So the talk of coups, remarks about not serving in Shadow Cabinets and former Prime Minister’s telling people to get ‘heart transplants’ need to stop now.”...
She's going to get one of my preferences for deputy - not sure which yet.
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Evening all. Saw Andy Burnham last night in Manchester, rather disappointed by his little digs at Corbyn. Speaking to other people there I was surprised to hear how many were considering voting for Corbyn first.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... cap-policy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jeremy Hunt’s U-turn on social care ‘cost taxpayer £100m’
Health secretary faces tough questions from MPs amid growing anger at policy fiasco over cap on care costs for the elderly
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NOT JUST ELDERLY sorry for shouting.

Does say that to be fair.
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Re Scottish council debt. Problem predates SNP but it is a problem, no doubt about that. Looks like Holyrood since devolution has used it to get round fact it can't borrow.
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Cool Ed Miliband
‏@cooledmiliband Tyrion Burnham http://labourofthrones.tumblr.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; #LabourofThrones

I don't follow this series so the character's are a bit lost on me. But I do love the first one ;)

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Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB · 6m6 minutes ago
S Times front page story on calls for Harman to halt the leadership race.

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AngryAsWell wrote:Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB · 6m6 minutes ago
S Times front page story on calls for Harman to halt the leadership race.

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Funny how they think the 'hard left' has infiltrated the race yet don't appear to be bothered about idiotic Tories trying to do the same. Presumably that's OK.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Mike Smithson ‏@MSmithsonPB · 6m6 minutes ago
S Times front page story on calls for Harman to halt the leadership race.

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Funny how they think the 'hard left' has infiltrated the race yet don't appear to be bothered about idiotic Tories trying to do the same. Presumably that's OK.
Indeed. Was it the Times or the Telegraph who were urging their readers to sign up as £3 supporters to vote for Jeremy Corbyn? Sauce for the goose...
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HindleA wrote:NOT JUST ELDERLY sorry for shouting.

Does say that to be fair.
Yep, it does include younger disabled people in the article:
Hunt has announced that the plan to limit care bills from next year to £72,000 for the over-65s and for younger adults with disabilities has been delayed until 2020 – despite the fact it was trumpeted by the Conservatives in the runup to the general election.
(My bold)
But, as usual, no mention that when they say 'disabilities' they are lumping-in those with long-term illnesses, too. The headline and, perhaps, the sub-heading are what people take in, though, as they glance at the papers all standing folded on the newsagent's shelves, on their way to the tills. And those top lines give the impression that this does only affect 'the elderly' because that's pretty much all the passing public can see, without taking the paper off the shelf.

The way this reversal/abandonment was announced is yet another example of this Government's contempt for the people and for Parliament. Waiting until Parliament has risen for the summer holidays but the Lords are on their final day to drop this and so much else is, sadly, typical of them - and we can expect more stuff to be slipped out between now and Parliament's return in September. And writing-off all the investment that's been made in planning and training and development of IT systems - in the care-businesses, Local Authorities, and the government/civil service - on top of the sheer cruelty to people who will have planned for their futures on the basis of the cap being set in stone for 2016/17. I'm disgusted. Again.
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And... I'm really glad to see @letsskip back with us - hope we'll see more of you and that your long shifts will pass quickly so your days off soon arrive :hug:
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Latest list of amendments in removal of welfare and work Bill for those interested.I note Emily Thornbury has enjoined the SNP in one.

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Jeremy Corbyn is Andrew Marr's guest on The Marr Show at 9am on BBC One. Other guests are Alex Salmond, Baroness Warsi, Mark Gatiss, and Martin James Bartlett.
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Morming.

Not for the first time - I feel sorry for all those people who live in supposedly 'Tory England' who didn't support the Tories. They just get lumped in.
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I believe that a huge number of decent Labour supporters will sign up pay £3 to ensure #LizKendall victory
Are they more decent than other Labour supporters because they support Kendall? Why is that word necessary?
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This is good from Creasy.
Labour must once again be the party to give people hope
Stella Creasy
The party is again at a crossroads, but the question is not left or right, but our relevance today

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
... Traditional political parties seem terrifyingly small in ambition and ability. When everything feels so complex, the choice people make today is less between left and right, but more insider or outsider, authentic or inauthentic. Between supporting those who take on the establishment or those who maintain the status quo.

There is no rule that Labour has to exist or has a monopoly on the hopes and dreams of Britain’s progressives. Just as in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, we are at a crossroads. But the direction is less left or right and more about our relevance to the modern world.

Those who want change aren’t standing still. Energy is directed elsewhere, to the kinds of causes and campaigns Labour candidates were told not to run so as not to dilute the “brand”.

Mass movements, on and offline, are on the move, whether the SNP and Ukip, the Women’s Institute or Citizens UK. Where Change.org or Greenpeace and Oxfam are flexible about how involvement will make a difference, Labour is still issuing press releases from the centre to tell people we have solutions to questions they haven’t asked. Newer social movements, unencumbered by messy structures, are creating havoc – they are more likely than Labour conferences to effect change...
Is that bit in bold true? Anyone? Seems crazy if so. We know that a big part of the reason we did relatively well here - although we lost - was that our candidate had taken on the corrupt / non democratic behaviour of the local council and was known to be doing so. Surely it is important to be tackling the issues and joining with the causes that matter to people whether locally or globally?
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stellacreasy retweeted
Paul Mason ‏@paulmasonnews 25m25 minutes ago
This by @stellacreasy feels like the emergence of a "radical centre" in Labour: http://gu.com/p/4bxtz/stw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The contrast between Creasy and the clapped out inspiration free neo-Blairite apparatchiks above backing Kendall to the death, is all too apparent.

She offers both hope (as does Corbyn, in his own way) and a practical way forward (as New Labour did back in the day)

In that sense, she is arguably the most genuinely "Blairite" candidate in this election.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:The contrast between Creasy and the clapped out inspiration free neo-Blairite apparatchiks above backing Kendall to the death, is all too apparent.

She offers both hope (as does Corbyn, in his own way) and a practical way forward (as New Labour did back in the day)

In that sense, she is arguably the most genuinely "Blairite" candidate in this election.
I take it you mean New Blairite when you use 'Blairite' - as in actually moving on from Blair?
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Toby Helm ‏@tobyhelm 9m9 minutes ago
letter from Sarah Wollaston to Jeremy Hunt re care cap u turn.http://www.parliament.uk/documents/comm ... -07-23.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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Good whatever ... the Gove broken foot story was even more scurrilous and misleading than just badmouthing the NHS for not being open to offer him an X ray at the weekend ... when it was open and radiology available if he'd gone to the right place.

Now we find out this ...
... It got worse: the NHS Treatment Centre in Shepton Mallet, where “Oiky” and Ms Vine fetched up, is run not by the NHS, but Care UK, a private provider. So the rotten socialist NHS, which Ms Vine was so joyously attacking, already provides a 24/7 service, but the Very Wonderful private health providers that the Tories want to see lots more of do not...
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:The contrast between Creasy and the clapped out inspiration free neo-Blairite apparatchiks above backing Kendall to the death, is all too apparent.

She offers both hope (as does Corbyn, in his own way) and a practical way forward (as New Labour did back in the day)

In that sense, she is arguably the most genuinely "Blairite" candidate in this election.

I am voting Creasy, but she does have one major thing in common with the (overt) Blairites.

She is going to lose. Badly. Doing far worse than expected.

Machine man Watson, a man as devoid of appeal outside of the party as is possible to imagine, will win easily.

The reason is the same for why Corbyn is doing so well.

2015 was a shock. The party expected to lose 2010. It had been in power for a long time and accepted, if not agreed with, the idea of the party responsible for Iraq and in power during the worst domestic crisis since the 70s leaving office. Democracy requires a change of government sometimes. Indeed, in 2010 Labour did rather better than expected, and so with a new generation in power and no more Blair/Brown battles there was cause for optimism. 2010 was called a good election to lose, deeply unpopular cuts and a Lib Dem collapse made a Labour victory in 2015 likely.

2015 came as a blow, and the party had and has a lovely excuse for refusing to accept reality. Scotland. Haven't we just been destroyed from the left by the SNP? If that works in Scotland why not try it here? If we lost under Miliband what reason is there for thinking that we'll win under Miliband II (Burnham)? With boundary changes and easier fiscal conditions for the next 5 years compared to the past 5, what would be the point of compromise again?

So, fuck it. Vote for candidates saying what you want rather than the voices of the right calling for compromise.

So we get Watson as deputy, and either Burnahm or Corbyn for leader.

Indeed there is I suppose a certain logic to this insanity. If 270MPs are essentially powerless, why is 150 so much worse? At least we have people arguing for the renationalisation of BT, the post office, electricity and gas companies like Corbyn did this am.

There are other factors (it is only the oldsters who are still scarred by 83, the new membership is clearly more leftwing). But the big problem is fatalism and defeatism.

People like Creasy don't stand a chance in that atmosphere.
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Watson is revered by many because he took on Murdoch (plus some kudos over his child abuse campaigning)

All else (the machine politics background, his serial disloyalty to successive leaders) has been effectively airbrushed out. Regrettable, but we are where we are there. And tbf to him, he at least realises that party organisation is important (though as some have said, he would be better off lobbying to be the party's Gen Sec if that is what really motivates him)

Creasy is second in CLP noms, and has a good chance of getting that in the actual vote. It is far from over for her.

As for the wider state of the party, I don't buy the line that huge swathes have suddenly become uninterested in winning elections. A few things seem to have been underestimated by pundits - firstly the revulsion that swept through much of the party when both Ed and the manifesto Labour stood on were systematically trashed, and in a suspiciously orchestrated and coordinated fashion, by a certain group within the party in the hours and days after the election result. In particular, the line that it had all been due to Miliband's supposed hostility to "aspiration" and "wealth creators" was relentlessly promulgated - even though subsequent research revealed it to be amongst the *least* important reasons (utterly dwarfed by the Great Scots Scare, for example - something contemptuously dismissed by these types in the initial days as an "excuse")

In short it had the distinct feeling of a preordained, preplanned de facto coup (the prominence of Mandelson at the head of it only augmented those suspicions)

Added to that, I think the effect of the Scottish massacre on the psyche of the party elsewhere has been underestimated. In particular, the fact the SNP ran obstensibly to Labour's left (whatever the reality) was a direct counter to the classic Blairite analysis that elections are solely won on a narrowly defined "centre ground". Not just that, but the widespread feeling is that the best defence against a similar existensial threat to the party in England and Wales is that it should stand for something distinctive and different (*this* is at the heart of Corbyn's appeal, not a sudden mass conversion to hard left sectarianism)

And the Scottish disaster also brought into focus a feeling of if Labour needs to move *that* far to the right to win elections (as the likes of Kendall seem to be arguing) what is the point of the party actually existing? And what if, as quite possible, those fabled swing voters in Nuneaton and Swindon decide they prefer the "real thing" nonetheless and stick with the Tories??

And if the Tories actually become genuinely unpopular, won't people want something offering real change anyway?
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Hear bloody hear AK.

The main difficulty for me with Watson - if he wins - is that he seems to be a divisive figure (although, I suppose, every candidate of every hue seems to be capable of being that for some groups of Labour supporters at the moment) and quick to use his media profile to speak out publicly. I tend to think that a deputy leader needs to be able to do a lot of quiet work as well - sounding people out, feeding back to and advising the leader and cabinet, and seeking to keep things together and build consensus rather than blow things open. That part of the role doesn't seem a natural fit for him.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Mhairi Black's still flying.
She added that making MPs vote in person, rather than electronically, was outdated and wasted time. “Are we genuinely saying that the underground can log millions of travellers, day in, day out, without a problem, and 650 of us can’t hit a button? It’s just stupid. A couple of Mondays ago, I didn’t get home until half past midnight because we were voting. How is anybody with a family supposed to work those hours?”
I think the instructions from their leader (who's probably concentrating on her jolly to China) must be garbled. While Black is complaining about the lack of electronic voting, one of her stablemates is complaining about the cost of implementing it:
Ms Blackman asked the House of Commons Commission, the body which runs the Commons, about plans to update the current system that still sees MPs vote by funnelling down “Aye” or “Nay” lobbies.
The answer showed the House of Commons decided to spend £5,000 on developing software to count the MPs electronically, along with £4,900 on iPads last year (2014/15).
The answer also revealed that a further £1,700 was spent on adapting the £5000 software to record “double majorities”.
The parliamentary answer said: “The work on the project is not yet complete, but the total amount spent to date in 2015/16 is £6,700. This includes £5,000 for purchasing tablet devices and £1,700 to modify the software to enable the tablets to provide the results of divisions taken under the proposed ‘double-majority’ system.”
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/snp-ang ... -1-3840644
£10,000 seems to me to be cheap for a voting system + iPads, and it also seems sensible to build in EVEL before the system's implemented, rather than amend it later.

As for the late working, I would have thought Black was used to it - her sole experience outwith the education system appears to be a part time job in a chip shop. (Is that better than towel-folding)? Obviously it hasn't occurred to her that thousands of people work unsocial hours - including the Commons bar staff and the underground workers she alludes to.
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Good morfternoon.
Jeremy Corbyn draws fire for position on Britain's EU future

The Labour leadership candidate has stated several times the EU is imperfect and needs reform, drawing criticism from rivals who demand clarity

At the latest leadership hustings in Warrington on Saturday, the leftwing candidate said his decision would depend on whether David Cameron was able to change the EU for the better. (Guardian)
Yes, that's all very well but Jeremy Corbyn acknowledges that David Cameron's aim isn't to change the EU "for the better" (as in, better for the general population in the UK). So he (JC) already knows, or should, where he stands on the "in\out" question.

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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... membership
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Another thought about why Blairism is now in full retreat......

Blair's statement the other day - that even if moving to the left *did* win Labour votes he would be against it - was a classic "jumped the shark" moment.

Even some very moderate Labour people were shaking their head in disbelief at that, and it is further evidence the Progress tendency are now as ideological as the hard left.

Reminded me more than a bit of Tony Benn's infamous claim just after Labour's 1983 GE disaster that it had been a "great victory" for socialism. The moment when many in the mainstream of the party finally stopped taking him seriously (I still remember some of the incredulous letters in the Graun)
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A chancellor who shrinks the state will end up shrinking his popularity
William Keegan

The rhetoric about ‘scroungers’ plays well, but the size of Osborne’s assault on services is so large that he may end up facing a widespread public backlash (Guardian)
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A chancellor who shrinks the state will end up shrinking his popularity
William Keegan

The rhetoric about ‘scroungers’ plays well, but the size of Osborne’s assault on services is so large that he may end up facing a widespread public backlash (Guardian)
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Bumboils.
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Sarah Vine @SarahVine
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Amid SDP-style split rumours, Kendall says: I’ll never leave the party I love
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Benefit cuts may not be as popular as we're led to believe

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/21927" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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It's grim down south -

BREAKING NEWS: America’s Cup racing abandoned and site evacuated

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Appalling weather today forced the abandonment of the America’s Cup racing in Southsea as spectators were evacuated from the seafront for safety reasons. (News)
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AngryAsWell wrote:Benefit cuts may not be as popular as we're led to believe

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/21927" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The many people working but not earning much who are dependent on tax credits bought into the 'scroungers' rhetoric and because they work hard and just about pay taxes, begrudged those they think are taking the piss and immigrants.
That's probably where many UKIP votes came from.

Ironic they wasted their vote, and now they're losing a chunk of income

I would be more sympathetic if they hadn't dragged thousands of innocent people down with them.
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AngryAsWell wrote:Benefit cuts may not be as popular as we're led to believe

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/21927" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The government only care about whether they're popular with tory voters.
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"Northern No Powerhouse - Tories Knew
The suspicion of many observers that Young Dave and his jolly good chaps knew that Network Rail (NR) could not complete the network upgrades promised in the run-up to the General Election was, at the time, no more than that. But that NR - like BR before it - could reasonably manage one large project at a time became clear after the event. Now the beans have been well and truly spilled: the Tories knew all along."

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Lord Sewel 'quits as Lord's deputy speaker' following drugs claims

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ohsocynical wrote:
Lord Sewel 'quits as Lord's deputy speaker' following drugs claims

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 16657.html
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Eric_WLothian wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
Lord Sewel 'quits as Lord's deputy speaker' following drugs claims

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 16657.html
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AngryAsWell wrote:"Northern No Powerhouse - Tories Knew
The suspicion of many observers that Young Dave and his jolly good chaps knew that Network Rail (NR) could not complete the network upgrades promised in the run-up to the General Election was, at the time, no more than that. But that NR - like BR before it - could reasonably manage one large project at a time became clear after the event. Now the beans have been well and truly spilled: the Tories knew all along."

http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... -knew.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't think the Tories are bothered about a few spilled beans:
A DEAL to cut train journeys from Scotland to London to three hours by bringing high-speed rail north of the Border is in the offing between the UK and Scottish governments.
It could involve a combination of upgrading existing tracks and building new high-speed lines over the final stretches into Glasgow and Edinburgh, according to sources familiar with the project.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ ... -1-3841092
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Banned staff revealed to be teaching at Trojan horse school

At least two teachers accused of involvement in the Trojan Horse plot to “Islamise” Birmingham schools have been reinstated by the academy at the heart of the scandal, despite being banned from the teaching profession.

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An opportunity for the horse owners on here:
AN animal charity is appealing for horse lovers with big hearts to help re-home 27 tiny Shetland ponies.
The Scottish SPCA took the small ponies into its rescue centre in Aberdeenshire as their previous Scottish Borders-based owner could no longer look after them all.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/environmen ... -1-3839535
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Team Fox
A coalition of animals groups united to keep the hunting ban in place.

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Ex-Tory plan to sabotage Labour vote backfires

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gilsey wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Benefit cuts may not be as popular as we're led to believe

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/21927" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The government only care about whether they're popular with tory voters.

Of course they do, gilsey - which begs the question why they are doing what they're doing.

Hunt has wasted £100 Million of our money (a significant chunk went to Saatchi) for not actually implementing the social care cap - thus leaving local authorities, disabled people, and elderly people with property (and their families) in chaos.
I appreciate that some of the younger people with disabilities and their carers may not be Tory voters, but I'd be willing to bet quite a few of the older ones are. Perhaps they thought that Hunt really really cared about them. Whoops!

As OhSo says, there will be a fair chunk of working-class voters who deserted Labour and voted Tory or UKIP - they will be bleating when they feel the impact of the current changes, let alone the new ones announced in the Budget.
I don't have a huge amount of sympathy; this does me no credit, but I find it hard to feel sorry for people who were quick to believe that people like me are not like them, I'm a scrounger, they're better than me. They believed the lies they were told - that doesn't make them as bad as the people who told the lies, but had they bothered to find out the truth we might not be where we are.

I have had a lovely afternoon, watching lunatics trying not to injure themselves on the Tour and listening to some fave music.
Today, my best bit was just now - The Hebrew Slaves' Chorus from Nabucco, as the Patrouille De France coloured the sky.
Lovely.

I should do things like that more often.
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Review of benefit sanctions urged amid concern over regime's effectiveness
Advisers to Iain Duncan Smith say there is no hard evidence that stopping payments to claimants is helping people get jobs

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... ectiveness" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We haven't got a symbol for a hollow laugh ... but I'm hearing one now. Dream on advisers to IDS - he doesn't care whether there is hard evidence or not - he just believes he is right and that's enough to justify this punishment as far as he is concerned.
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Just because.....

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...I have never seen a caterpillar anything like this so thought I'd share!
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David Hencke ‏@davidhencke 6m6 minutes ago
Child abuse survivors strike back: A reflection on Reflections UK https://davidhencke.wordpress.com/2015/ ... ections-uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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AngryAsWell wrote:Just because.....

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...I have never seen a caterpillar anything like this so thought I'd share!
That's lovely. Probably really tiny - but looks amazing in that close up.
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