Thursday 18th September 2014

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:04 am

LadyCentauria wrote:Eilean Siar (Western Isles) 19, 758
Yes: 9.195
No: 10,544

This surprises me, I would have thought higher for Yes...

Agreed

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:08 am

HindleA wrote:
LadyCentauria wrote:Eilean Siar (Western Isles) 19, 758
Yes: 9.195
No: 10,544

This surprises me, I would have thought higher for Yes...

Agreed

Of course, we (I) could also start a rumour that lots of English second-homers flipped their main address... but that would be cheeky!

In further news, Dundee Count has been evacuated. No official reason yet given.

(Edit 8mins later: they are back and counting after 2nd fire-alarm)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:27 am

Salmond has left Aberdeen in a private jet.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:33 am

Projected turnout 84 %

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:35 am

Inverclyde Total: 54,101
Yes: 27,243
No: 27,329
Rejected: 29

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:44 am

HindleA wrote:Salmond has left Aberdeen in a private jet.

Heading for Edinburgh for the Official Announcement, perhaps? I hope so, otherwise I would regard it as a dereliction of duty. TBH, Alistair Darling has a duty to be there, too, as leader of the Better Together campaign. Whichever way things go both campaign leaders and all official campaign spokespeople should be there.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:47 am

LadyCentauria wrote:
HindleA wrote:Salmond has left Aberdeen in a private jet.
Heading for Edinburgh for the Official Announcement, perhaps? I hope so, otherwise I would regard it as a dereliction of duty. TBH, Alistair Darling has a duty to be there, too, as leader of the Better Together campaign. Whichever way things go both campaign leaders and all official campaign spokespeople should be there.

Yes.

Fife "55/45 for No according to both sides"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:53 am

Renfrewshire next

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:53 am

Dundee finally

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:56 am

Renfrewshire: 117,612
Yes: 55,466
No: 62,067
Reject: 79

Dundee: 93,592
Yes: 53.620
No: 39,880
Reject: 90 or 92...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:58 am

What's the running totals must be close?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 3:59 am

49.1 yes

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:07 am

West Dunbartonshire: 62,532
Yes: 33,720
No: 28,776 (yelling...)
Reject: 36

Tips yes to 50.9% overall

(Cant spell...)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:08 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:49.1 yes

Cheers.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:10 am

LadyCentauria wrote:West Dumbartonshire: 62,532
Yes: 33,720
No: 28,776 (yelling...)
Reject: 36

Tips yes to 50.9% overall

Cheers!

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:11 am

Midlothian: 60,395
Yes: 26,370
No: 33,972
Reject: 53

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:12 am

Totals
Yes:232,516 is 49%
No:241,559 is 51%

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:15 am

East Lothian: 71,798
Yes: 27,467
No: 44,283
Reject: 48

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:19 am

Stirling: 62,225
Yes: 25,010
No: 37,153
Reject: 62

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:21 am

Falkirk: 108,626
Yes: 50,489
No: 58,030
Reject: 107

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:23 am

Think we can now safely say it's a No,even if Glasgow returns a Yes the disparity will be too much,given already counted votes and indications from other areas.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:23 am

Sorry

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:23 am

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:23 am

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:23 am

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:32 am

Angus: 80.302
Yes: 35.044
No: 45,192
Reject: 66

Aberdeen City: 143,
Yes: 59,390
No:
Reject: 180

Dumfries and Galloway: 106,775
Yes: 36,614
No: 70,039
Reject: ?

East Renfrewshire: 66024
Yes: 24,287
No: 41, (deafened!)

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:34 am

East Dunbartonshire: 79,011
Yes: 30,624
No: 48,215
Reject: ?

Fingers and brain(s) aching. Stopping for a tea-break.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:35 am

you're doing a sterling job here Lady C!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:40 am

Getting a bit emotional I'm glad that independence appears to have been rejected,but what is quite clear there is large scale disaffectation that needs to be addressed.

Thanks for results Lady C and all.that are still around.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:40 am

Getting a bit emotional I'm glad that independence appears to have been rejected,but what is quite clear there is large scale disaffectation that needs to be addressed.

Thanks for results Lady C and all.that are still around.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:47 am

Current standing 55/45 for No

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:48 am

with maybe a third of votes so far

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:49 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:you're doing a sterling job here Lady C!

Dunno about that, TC, more like cluttering up the place. Oh, I ought to declare that if I had a vote it would have been yes. And, had I thought of it, I'd have made a pretend ballot box, too

North Lanarkshire:226883
Yes: 115783
No:110922
Reject:178

South Lanarkshire:222,___
Yes: 100990
No: 121800
Reject:?

Perth and Kinross: 104285
Yes: 41475
No: 62714
Reject:?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:53 am

Here's the biggy

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:53 am

Glasgow: 364,664
Yes: 194779
No: 169347
Reject: 538

Crowd gone wild!

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:54 am

Independence for Glaschu

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:56 am

Scottish Borders: 83,526
Yes: 27,906
No:55,553
Reject: 67

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 4:59 am

North Ayrshire: 96173
Yes: 47072
No: 49016
Reject: 85

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:07 am

South Ayrshire: 81,716
Yes: 34,402
No: 47,241?
Reject: ?

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:11 am

East Ayrshire: 84262
Yes: 39762
No: 44442
Reject: 58

only six more to go...

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:13 am

Morning all.

Sad to hear the "project Fear" phrase being used on the BBC.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:16 am

the BBC really are a disappointment these days to be sure

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:18 am

c. 71 % of votes --> 54.3% no to date

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:26 am

Paul Mason

Ten conclusions on the Independence Referendum

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LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:27 am

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.

Sad to hear the "project Fear" phrase being used on the BBC.

Morning, Stephen. Yes, it's a shame to hear that phrase used anywhere although I can see why it's become popular. If it were truly about fear, though, Better Together would have warned that if Scotland voted Yes, a "great, black slithery thing" would "cra-a-awl up the light-house!".

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:30 am

Radio 4 "bad news for Ed M and Labour" ad infinitum

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:34 am

Seriously pissed off with (deliberate?) false equivalence with voting for political parties and voting for independence or not from.the "experts"

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:36 am

Good (early) morning, everyone.

Transistor radio worked a treat (the bits I heard, anyway)! Radio 4\5 coverage of events not bad at all and no Jeremy Vine. I woke up just now to hear the Glasgow, and most probably the final, result. I've made tea and will now try to catch up with all your comments. Nicola Sturgeon is doing a brave job of fronting what now appears to be the losing side. I truly feel for her.

Treat to come later today - DevoDave. Give me strength. He owes Gordon Brown a debt of thanks, that's for sure.

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:37 am

HindleA wrote:Radio 4 "bad news for Ed M and Labour" ad infinitum

Any idea what on earth would make them suggest that anything was good news for Ed M and Labour? Guessing it'd need to be near 300 seat majority at the May GE...

LadyCentauria · Post by **LadyCentauria** » Fri 19 Sep, 2014 5:39 am

Morning, PF !