Wednesday 7th October 2015
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Wednesday 7th October 2015
Morning All
And, remarkably, I open with a link to the Mail. One of the more bizarre urls of recent times It's smart piece with great photos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rence.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I-didn-t-Parliament-bit-f-ing-arm-candy-Female-Tory-MPs-complaints-walk-alongside-Cameron-party-conference
And, remarkably, I open with a link to the Mail. One of the more bizarre urls of recent times It's smart piece with great photos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rence.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I-didn-t-Parliament-bit-f-ing-arm-candy-Female-Tory-MPs-complaints-walk-alongside-Cameron-party-conference
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Henry Higgins!PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All
And, remarkably, I open with a link to the Mail. One of the more bizarre urls of recent times It's smart piece with great photos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rence.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I-didn-t-Parliament-bit-f-ing-arm-candy-Female-Tory-MPs-complaints-walk-alongside-Cameron-party-conference
(Is it just me, or is he starting to look like Rex Harrison?)
edit, oops I'm getting my musicals muddled up,
& it's Christopher Plummer I was thinking of.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All
And, remarkably, I open with a link to the Mail. One of the more bizarre urls of recent times It's smart piece with great photos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rence.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I-didn-t-Parliament-bit-f-ing-arm-candy-Female-Tory-MPs-complaints-walk-alongside-Cameron-party-conference
Hasn't he been caught out doing this before?
I'm pretty sure I remember someone pointing this out a few years ago.
Morning all.
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Oh but this is very good and well worth a read.
What I learned wandering around the Conservative conference protests as a journalist
http://lauramcinerney.com/2015/10/06/wh ... ournalist/
What I learned wandering around the Conservative conference protests as a journalist
http://lauramcinerney.com/2015/10/06/wh ... ournalist/
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Morning.
Am a little fragile after some champagne socialism for a friend's birthday last night, so please don't talk too loudly.
Speaking quietly was what Laura Kuenssberg did on Radio 4 this morning, when giving her view on the Tory conference. Gone was the shouty, sneering, partly comic delivery she uses for Labour reporting.
She spoke thoughtfully, calmly, reverentially as if she gave great import to the Tories and their issues, no doubt intended to make the listeners think the Tories deserve the dignity of a proper report.
Today show also mentioned a Tory 'crusade' in house building. Made it sound soooo positive.
I had to log onto FTN to find out that affordable homes schemes are to be squashed under Cameron's foot.
180 degree politics my husband calls it.
They do the opposite of what they say they are doing.
A less polite name would be 'We'll p**s down your neck, tell you it's raining and you should be bloody grateful to us for doing so' politics.
Am a little fragile after some champagne socialism for a friend's birthday last night, so please don't talk too loudly.
Speaking quietly was what Laura Kuenssberg did on Radio 4 this morning, when giving her view on the Tory conference. Gone was the shouty, sneering, partly comic delivery she uses for Labour reporting.
She spoke thoughtfully, calmly, reverentially as if she gave great import to the Tories and their issues, no doubt intended to make the listeners think the Tories deserve the dignity of a proper report.
Today show also mentioned a Tory 'crusade' in house building. Made it sound soooo positive.
I had to log onto FTN to find out that affordable homes schemes are to be squashed under Cameron's foot.
180 degree politics my husband calls it.
They do the opposite of what they say they are doing.
A less polite name would be 'We'll p**s down your neck, tell you it's raining and you should be bloody grateful to us for doing so' politics.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/janebradley/lyc ... tion-probe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What lovely company David Cameron keeps. How the Tories have the gall to moan about Labour being funded by ordinary citizens via the unions, given the dubious lowlife who donate to them is beyond me.A BuzzFeed News investigation uncovers secret details of a “shady” deal between the offshore empire of a major Tory donor and the nephew of the former Sri Lankan president accused of corruption and war crimes.
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Good news for any Luddite book lovers like me !
''Waterstones to stop selling Kindle as book sales surge
Managing director James Daunt says: ‘Sales continue to be pitiful so we are taking the display space back.’''
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/o ... ales-surge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
''Waterstones to stop selling Kindle as book sales surge
Managing director James Daunt says: ‘Sales continue to be pitiful so we are taking the display space back.’''
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/o ... ales-surge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Good morfternoon.
Will they be playing God Save the Quing today? I wouldn't put it past them. Complete with a hologram of Betty as "arm candy"?
Will they be playing God Save the Quing today? I wouldn't put it past them. Complete with a hologram of Betty as "arm candy"?
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Eh?
Thought he always maintained that that "union-required piece of paper" didn't matter and that anyone could be a teacher?
In any case, Masters degrees don't take 3 years...full-time they're a year. PT normally two.
Thought he always maintained that that "union-required piece of paper" didn't matter and that anyone could be a teacher?
In any case, Masters degrees don't take 3 years...full-time they're a year. PT normally two.
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Joy! Kindle becomes kindling. (Sorry - I'm seemingly in whimsical mood today. I'm sure it will pass . . . )yahyah wrote:Good news for any Luddite book lovers like me !
''Waterstones to stop selling Kindle as book sales surge
Managing director James Daunt says: ‘Sales continue to be pitiful so we are taking the display space back.’''
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/o ... ales-surge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Good to see the Tory stewardship of the NHS is working out so well.
NHS leadership in crisis as running hospitals becomes near-impossible
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... impossible
NHS leadership in crisis as running hospitals becomes near-impossible
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... impossible
Still, I'm sure it's all the fault of the incompetent NHS and nothing to do with the government.“Our member chief executives tell us that they feel under greater pressure than ever before, particularly because there’s a huge, ongoing pressure in managing their financial deficit while continuing to provide the right quality of service”, says Chris Hopson, chief executive of NHS Providers. “It therefore seems no accident that we’ve had such a large number of chief execs retiring or resigning over the last 12 months. This is a very worrying trend. It means that just when the NHS needs leadership more than ever, because of the necessity of transforming how care is delivered, people are becoming increasingly reluctant to do these jobs. We can’t afford to lose experienced chief execs as we are currently doing.”
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''The Conservatives are the true champions of the NHS in Wales, says Welsh Tory leader''
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... s-10209830" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pass the sick bucket. Make it a big one.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... s-10209830" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pass the sick bucket. Make it a big one.
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Amazing report here of people who walked 188 miles from Tredegar to Manchester, sleeping on church floors along the way.
''Marianne’s grandfather Herbert Phillips, a miner from the Bedwelty Pits in Tredegar joined NHS founder Nye Bevan on a series of “hunger marches” in the 1920s.
In 1932, Herbert was among 375 Welsh marchers who joined the Jarrow Marchers and headed to London.
“My grandfather was my hero,” Marianne says. “When I was a child he used to tell me about the thunder of boots marching to the mines in the morning. He had a scar on his wrist lined with coal dust.”
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... r-10209791" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's that sort of spirit that the Tories cannot break.
''Marianne’s grandfather Herbert Phillips, a miner from the Bedwelty Pits in Tredegar joined NHS founder Nye Bevan on a series of “hunger marches” in the 1920s.
In 1932, Herbert was among 375 Welsh marchers who joined the Jarrow Marchers and headed to London.
“My grandfather was my hero,” Marianne says. “When I was a child he used to tell me about the thunder of boots marching to the mines in the morning. He had a scar on his wrist lined with coal dust.”
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... r-10209791" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's that sort of spirit that the Tories cannot break.
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http://lauramcinerney.com/2015/10/06/wh ... ournalist/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A personal account from an education journalist.What I learned wandering around the Conservative conference protests as a journalist
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Has this place gone quiet in breathless anticipation of the Pigsticker in Chief's speech, then?
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Which is why Corbyn continuing to call for calm and rationality (as he did the other night) is so laudable. You don't have to agree with him on everything to see that.
Sooner or later it might occur to some dunderheads in the MSM that he - and the hope he has engendered amongst several who lose out in the present state of things - is one of the few things still standing against a potential social explosion, with unknowable consequences.
Sooner or later it might occur to some dunderheads in the MSM that he - and the hope he has engendered amongst several who lose out in the present state of things - is one of the few things still standing against a potential social explosion, with unknowable consequences.
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I have to have a couple of fillings shortly, which is nice as I will miss TCC's pack of lies.
Off to give teggies another scrub.
Off to give teggies another scrub.
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Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many - they are few."
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Good-morning, everyone.
I'm glad Mr. citizen was in Manchester with friends providing me their account of the protests of Tory government.
If I relied upon Tories to tell me about it, I wouldn't know the truth.
Tories are awful and they know it.
Tory policy, action and words aren't good for people.
I'm glad Mr. citizen was in Manchester with friends providing me their account of the protests of Tory government.
If I relied upon Tories to tell me about it, I wouldn't know the truth.
Tories are awful and they know it.
Tory policy, action and words aren't good for people.
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I suppose I should have seen that coming. I feel sick.
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Oh - the Quing mentioned twice in the run-up bit.
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You are watching it so the rest of us don't have to
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Never have so few . . . . .AnatolyKasparov wrote:You are watching it so the rest of us don't have to
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'And on the subject of protecting our country from terrorism, let me just say this:
Thousands of words have been written about the new Labour leader.
But you only really need to know one thing: he thinks the death of Osama bin Laden was a “tragedy”.
No.
A tragedy is nearly 3,000 people murdered one morning in New York.
A tragedy is the mums and dads who never came home from work that day.
A tragedy is people jumping from the towers after the planes hit.
My friends – we cannot let that man inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love.'
Stay classy DC.
Thousands of words have been written about the new Labour leader.
But you only really need to know one thing: he thinks the death of Osama bin Laden was a “tragedy”.
No.
A tragedy is nearly 3,000 people murdered one morning in New York.
A tragedy is the mums and dads who never came home from work that day.
A tragedy is people jumping from the towers after the planes hit.
My friends – we cannot let that man inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love.'
Stay classy DC.
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I thought it was under the Conservatives that interest rates went through the roof? I must be mis-remembering.
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Pride of the one-Tory nation compassionate thingy.David Cameron vows to scrap requirement to build affordable homes for rent
In his conference speech the PM will promise to tear up planning rules in effort to encourage developers to build more housing for first-time buyers
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... t#comments
edited to add
I can't even read it right now.
Good lord this is one scary Tory.
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You utter disgrace, Dave Cameron.StephenDolan wrote:'And on the subject of protecting our country from terrorism, let me just say this:
Thousands of words have been written about the new Labour leader.
But you only really need to know one thing: he thinks the death of Osama bin Laden was a “tragedy”.
No.
A tragedy is nearly 3,000 people murdered one morning in New York.
A tragedy is the mums and dads who never came home from work that day.
A tragedy is people jumping from the towers after the planes hit.
My friends – we cannot let that man inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love.'
Stay classy DC.
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Instead of Corbyn we should entrust the country to our drug and prostitute fuelled friend osborne.
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Yes, it was.PorFavor wrote:I thought it was under the Conservatives that interest rates went through the roof? I must be mis-remembering.
Here's the table.
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/boeapps/iadb/Repo.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ironic given that he was Lamont's SpAd when they had to raise interest rates to try to stay in the ERM.
He really is a shocking liar.
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I suppose this is what "looking like a leader" amounts to these days. He really is a disgusting fucking excuse for a human being.StephenDolan wrote:'And on the subject of protecting our country from terrorism, let me just say this:
Thousands of words have been written about the new Labour leader.
But you only really need to know one thing: he thinks the death of Osama bin Laden was a “tragedy”.
No.
A tragedy is nearly 3,000 people murdered one morning in New York.
A tragedy is the mums and dads who never came home from work that day.
A tragedy is people jumping from the towers after the planes hit.
My friends – we cannot let that man inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love.'
Stay classy DC.
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I found it annoying, as he effectively writes off anyone with a point as a misfit, part of a tiny minority, whilst accepting that maybe more could be done for them.RobertSnozers wrote:This is interesting
http://www.conservativehome.com/platfor ... riors.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't know whether to be reassured by his willingness to talk to people whose views are so opposed to his own, and his acceptance that they may have something of a point, or annoyed at his utter failure to grasp the implications of his own privilege.George Grant: Meeting Manchester’s Class Warriors
The people camping overnight are surely a minority of the protesters, people coming during the day might be taking a day off work and have money for transport, they have just as much right to an opinion.
I'd say the reforms aren't working for at least a quarter of the population, that's a hell of a lot of exceptions.These are the people for whom the Government’s reforms really might not be working, the exceptions who prove the rule maybe, but exceptions nevertheless.
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That is why I’m so passionate about academies and free schools:
Head teachers are growing in confidence as they throw off the shackles of local council control…
Tell that to my HT and you'd get a "Eh?" response.
They're lying about this because they have to - evidence for academies being better because they're academies simply is not there.
They have to justify this expense and turmoil somehow.
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OK Labour I'm hoping for rebuttal after rebuttal and news appearance after news appearance dismantling this lying sack of shits detritus.
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Labour have responded:
They are right - but they should be very, very assertive about attacking Cameron for his lies.We've just witnessed the most disgraceful name calling from David Cameron during his leader's speech. According to Cameron, Jeremy Corbyn has a "security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology". Personalised, playground style attacks.
You'll notice the similarity between the Prime Minister's words and those of the tabloid press, who have smeared Jeremy Corbyn throughout the summer and beyond. The motivations are the same: to drown out debate and make our arguments taboo.
Well, we have a message to David Cameron and the Tory Party: this is a renewed, strengthened and bigger Labour Party you're dealing with - and you've very much got a fight on your hands. But we won't fight it by personalised attacks, we'll fight it by widening the debate and involving people, across communities and in workplaces, to create a better society.
It's called #anewkindofpolitics
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Feeling somewhat bemused by Cameron's speech, I can only surmise that David thinks in terms of eyes tight shut.
I would close my eyes if I couldn't dream.
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There was no attempt whatsoever that I can see to arrest him [bin Laden], to put him on trial, to go through that process.
This was an assassination attempt, and is yet another tragedy, upon a tragedy, upon a tragedy.
The World Trade Centre was a tragedy, the attack on Afghanistan was a tragedy, the war in Iraq was a tragedy. Tens of thousands of people have died. Torture has come back on to the world stage, been canonised virtually into law by Guantanamo and Bagram.
Can’t we learn some lessons over this?
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Michael Gove accusing Andrew Neill of showboating. I must be dreaming!
I would close my eyes if I couldn't dream.
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I have never been a member of a political party but that disgraceful speech has made my mind up to join the Labour Party.
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Looking at UK (and global) economic news today, I understand why Dave felt it imperative everyone look at Tory 'enemies' instead of the unholy mess Tories have made.
Disaster.
Disaster.
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Tweets reckon Andrew Neil was hammering Gove.
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He is just kicking the ball into an obligingly open goal, he doesn't do morality. The media should roast him for this bollocks but they won't.NonOxCol wrote:I suppose this is what "looking like a leader" amounts to these days. He really is a disgusting fucking excuse for a human being.StephenDolan wrote:'And on the subject of protecting our country from terrorism, let me just say this:
Thousands of words have been written about the new Labour leader.
But you only really need to know one thing: he thinks the death of Osama bin Laden was a “tragedy”.
No.
A tragedy is nearly 3,000 people murdered one morning in New York.
A tragedy is the mums and dads who never came home from work that day.
A tragedy is people jumping from the towers after the planes hit.
My friends – we cannot let that man inflict his security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology on the country we love.'
Stay classy DC.
Labour need to put Dan Jarvis up to rebut this. Plus get some headlines actually call David Cameron a lying sack of pig excrement on TV.
Jarvis is an actual soldier who has fought to defend this country, instead of a member of the CCF.
This is profoundly anti democratic and the behaviour of a third world dictator but with our media it will work.
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It is being rebutted already, I think Labour instinctively sense Cam went too far on this one and it could actually make some people think better of JC.
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The MSM would be going nuts if Cameron had been described in such a way.nickyinnorfolk wrote:Labour have responded:
They are right - but they should be very, very assertive about attacking Cameron for his lies.We've just witnessed the most disgraceful name calling from David Cameron during his leader's speech. According to Cameron, Jeremy Corbyn has a "security-threatening, terrorist-sympathising, Britain-hating ideology". Personalised, playground style attacks.
You'll notice the similarity between the Prime Minister's words and those of the tabloid press, who have smeared Jeremy Corbyn throughout the summer and beyond. The motivations are the same: to drown out debate and make our arguments taboo.
Well, we have a message to David Cameron and the Tory Party: this is a renewed, strengthened and bigger Labour Party you're dealing with - and you've very much got a fight on your hands. But we won't fight it by personalised attacks, we'll fight it by widening the debate and involving people, across communities and in workplaces, to create a better society.
It's called #anewkindofpolitics
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Should we give this it's own thread so we don't forget it?
None of that is going to be realised but they'll win in 2020?Over the next five years we will show that the deep problems in our society – they are not inevitable.
That a childhood in care doesn’t have to mean a life of struggle.
That a stint in prison doesn’t mean you’ll get out and do the same thing all over again.
That being black, or Asian, or female, or gay doesn’t mean you’ll be treated differently.
Nothing is written.
And if we’re to be the global success story of the 21st century, we need to write millions of individual success stories.
A Greater Britain – made of greater expectations…
…where renters become homeowners…
…employees become employers…
…a small island becomes an even bigger economy…
…and where extremism is defeated once and for all.
A Greater Britain…
…no more, its people dragged down or held back…
…no more, some children with their noses pressed to the window as they watch the world moving ahead without them.
No – a country raising its sights, its people reaching new heights…
…a Great British take-off – that leaves no-one behind.
That’s our dream – to help you realise your dreams.
A Greater Britain – made of greater hope, greater chances, greater security.
So let’s get out there – all of us – and let’s make it happen.
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I think the rebuttal is rather weak as it stands. They should be addressing it far more aggressively and in principle not just complaining about personal attacks.AnatolyKasparov wrote:It is being rebutted already, I think Labour instinctively sense Cam went too far on this one and it could actually make some people think better of JC.
This is not going to be good for JC most people will just hear Cameron's words and believe him.
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AS verdict, I can't argue with it.
My bold. That's the same issue as always with Cameron & Osborne.he set out an attractive “one nation prospectus, ranging into areas like poverty, prison reform and racial discrimination that rarely feature so prominently in leader speeches at the Conservative conference. If Michael Heseltine had become Tory leader, he would have sounded like this.
Yet is any of it deliverable? It also sounded like a speech that Cameron may be anxious to forget by 2020. He called for more rehabilitation in prisons, but Chris Grayling pledged the same in the last parliament when he was justice secretary and the change he proposed never materialised. Cameron promised an “all-out assault on poverty”, saying that work was the best route out of poverty, but in-work poverty has been increasing, experts expect poverty on conventional measures to go up by the end of the decade and harsh tax credit cuts are about to come into force. He also deplored the lack of social mobility in the UK, and called for more equality. But on all these issues he had little or nothing to say about the policy levers he might pull to achieve his goals, and there is a danger that he is raising hopes he will not be able to fulfil.
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Hi Utopian,utopiandreams wrote:Michael Gove accusing Andrew Neill of showboating. I must be dreaming!
You need this:
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Re: Wednesday 7th October 2015
TechnicalEphemera wrote:I think the rebuttal is rather weak as it stands. They should be addressing it far more aggressively and in principle not just complaining about personal attacks.AnatolyKasparov wrote:It is being rebutted already, I think Labour instinctively sense Cam went too far on this one and it could actually make some people think better of JC.
This is not going to be good for JC most people will just hear Cameron's words and believe him.
He is a convincing liar it is true but a liar he is. Being a good liar does not make you suitable for an office of state
If you are prepared to lie and there is no one calling you out on it then you will probably gain. The Labour Party can call him that but people will say it is just political opponents
The problem is the media are mainly made up of either friends, acquaintances or liars as well
There are very few journalists prepared to ask difficult questions and they do not work for the BBC or mass market newspapers where most people seem to get their info from
One day people will realise it is just on great big con trick but by then it is all too late
If only they had paid a little bit more interest......perhaps Dom Littlewood will have a show called 'Britain's Greatest Twats' in 10 years time
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Re: Wednesday 7th October 2015
Good to see our PM acting true to form.
Why would a leopard ever change its spots ?
Lying, cheating, misrepresenting, harming people and telling them it's for their own good is their only game.
The Tories get ever more extreme and the media chunter on about them occupying the middle ground, as if were all just an amusing game.
Why would a leopard ever change its spots ?
Lying, cheating, misrepresenting, harming people and telling them it's for their own good is their only game.
The Tories get ever more extreme and the media chunter on about them occupying the middle ground, as if were all just an amusing game.
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Re: Wednesday 7th October 2015
Congrats to Jessica Elgot (who?) for this
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