Monday 14th December 2015
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Monday 14th December 2015
Morning all.
Good to see Clegg trying to spread merriment for the festive period.
“I have never seen a major political party embark on quite such a spectacular bout of self-indulgence."
Yes, he did say that.
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Good to see Clegg trying to spread merriment for the festive period.
“I have never seen a major political party embark on quite such a spectacular bout of self-indulgence."
Yes, he did say that.
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He's lost the plot.
"The only effect of what the Labour party is doing is it will entrench Conservative policies ..... I want them to do what opposition parties should do, which is hold the powerful to account.”
"The only effect of what the Labour party is doing is it will entrench Conservative policies ..... I want them to do what opposition parties should do, which is hold the powerful to account.”
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Morning.
You are assuming Clegg was ever in possession of the plot to start with Toby.
& well done France for keeping the FN at bay.
You are assuming Clegg was ever in possession of the plot to start with Toby.
& well done France for keeping the FN at bay.
Re: Monday 14th December 2015
In honour of my representative in ParliamentStephenDolan wrote:Morning all.
Good to see Clegg trying to spread merriment for the festive period.
“I have never seen a major political party embark on quite such a spectacular bout of self-indulgence."
Yes, he did say that.
https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... ent-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Was going to change as parody,
but think Wordsworth's original (almost) fits perfectly
especially last verse:
I wandered lonely as Nick Clegg
That floats on high o'er vales and Hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of golden Daffodils;
Beside the Lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.
Continuous as the stars that shine
And twinkle on the milky way,
They stretched in never-ending line
Along the margin of a bay:
Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.
The waves beside them danced; but they
Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:-
A Poet could not but be gay
In such a jocund company:
I gazed---and gazed---but little thought
What wealth the show to me had brought:
For oft when on my couch I lie
In vacant or in pensive mood,
They flash upon that inward eye
Which is the bliss of solitude,
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the Daffodils.
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Good pointyahyah wrote:Morning.
You are assuming Clegg was ever in possession of the plot to start with Toby.
& well done France for keeping the FN at bay.
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I don't get that argument, the fact that someone grew up in a secure comfortable home could just as easily convince that person that it is a good thing to do all they can to help others not as fortunate.
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Does she want publicity for something ?
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How does she explain that people like Nadine Dorries & Sajid Javid became Tories with their childhood background ?
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Yes, and she grew up on a farm near Dublin, so by her own reasoning what could she possibly know about life for people in urban areas ?TobyLatimer wrote:I don't get that argument, the fact that someone grew up in a secure comfortable home could just as easily convince that person that it is a good thing to do all they can to help others not as fortunate.
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Seems to be the main argument used against the likes of Tristram Hunt!TobyLatimer wrote:I don't get that argument, the fact that someone grew up in a secure comfortable home could just as easily convince that person that it is a good thing to do all they can to help others not as fortunate.
To be honest, does anybody really care what O'Reilly says?
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& the BBC are not unknown for paying TV presenters daftly high salaries, even for quite minor people, so how would she, using her logic, after years of earning good money know what it is like for ordinary people in the real world ?
Her argument lacks authenticity.
Harriet Harman offered her a job heading a commission looking at older women in the media & public life if Labour won the election, wonder if she sees less of a career and potential income stream under Corbyn ?
Her argument lacks authenticity.
Harriet Harman offered her a job heading a commission looking at older women in the media & public life if Labour won the election, wonder if she sees less of a career and potential income stream under Corbyn ?
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Some people may view it as self-indulgent,childish disingenuine guff,I couldn't possibly comment.
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Have to admit that thought was running through my head too.yahyah wrote:Her argument lacks authenticity.
Harriet Harman offered her a job heading a commission looking at older women in the media & public life if Labour won the election, wonder if she sees less of a career and potential income stream under Corbyn ?
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Danny boy is gloating . Does this mean Hodges with his background has no knowledge of real life and it follows that he has no valid reason to be a Labour 'commentator'
Hoisted by his own petard
Hoisted by his own petard
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TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Seems to be the main argument used against the likes of Tristram Hunt!TobyLatimer wrote:I don't get that argument, the fact that someone grew up in a secure comfortable home could just as easily convince that person that it is a good thing to do all they can to help others not as fortunate.
To be honest, does anybody really care what O'Reilly says?
To be honest I hadn't heard of her until today, or if I had I forgot who she was, I had to google her name for info
Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Good morning, all!
Gidiot has axed a training scheme for care workers, which was due to start in the new year. The plan was to offer enhanced skills training to care staff in an attempt to extend the role of some care workers, which would help to address the shortage of qualified nurses in the care sector.
The role of "Care Practitioners" was supposed to plug existing gaps, and give care staff a career progression they currently don't have.
In the spending review, Osborne announced a £3.5 Billion package of measures to address the growing crisis in care; a significant part of that was to come from the 2% increase in council tax, and there were 7 projects due to be funded for the new training for care staff.
In 2013, he announced that the Better Care Fund would be worth £5.3 Billion; by 2014, funding had fallen to £3.8 Billion; the PAC stated in February 2015 that the planning for the Better Care Fund was a shambles and was particularly scathing about the lack of oversight, the lack of information on how savings could be achieved, and the shift in emphasis from social care to protection of NHS resources.
As with so many of this governments' announcements, what sounds good in a speech does not translate into action - and in this case, bit by bit, what started out as a good idea in theory is now reduced to more smoke and mirrors; it's a total mess.
Gidiot has axed a training scheme for care workers, which was due to start in the new year. The plan was to offer enhanced skills training to care staff in an attempt to extend the role of some care workers, which would help to address the shortage of qualified nurses in the care sector.
The role of "Care Practitioners" was supposed to plug existing gaps, and give care staff a career progression they currently don't have.
In the spending review, Osborne announced a £3.5 Billion package of measures to address the growing crisis in care; a significant part of that was to come from the 2% increase in council tax, and there were 7 projects due to be funded for the new training for care staff.
In 2013, he announced that the Better Care Fund would be worth £5.3 Billion; by 2014, funding had fallen to £3.8 Billion; the PAC stated in February 2015 that the planning for the Better Care Fund was a shambles and was particularly scathing about the lack of oversight, the lack of information on how savings could be achieved, and the shift in emphasis from social care to protection of NHS resources.
As with so many of this governments' announcements, what sounds good in a speech does not translate into action - and in this case, bit by bit, what started out as a good idea in theory is now reduced to more smoke and mirrors; it's a total mess.
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I didn't grow up on a farm,
Haven't even got feathers.
But I can still be against battery farming chickens.
Haven't even got feathers.
But I can still be against battery farming chickens.
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I don't understand why some people decry socialists who were fortunate to have well off backgrounds.
Having empathy with, and wanting political change for those less fortunate & outside one's own experience - is that supposed to be a bad thing ?
Having empathy with, and wanting political change for those less fortunate & outside one's own experience - is that supposed to be a bad thing ?
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Morning. Chuka Umunna and Jonathan Reynolds calling for PR.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/let ... 72056.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;... However Scotland leads the way on some best practice via the Scottish Parliament and its Additional Member electoral system. Scotland’s 129 MSPs are comprised of 73 constituency members elected under FPTP, and 56 regional representatives elected via 8 additional member regions. Electors vote twice: once for a specific candidate; once for a political party.
This means the public still get a local constituency MP for their area, but they also get an election which is representative of how the country voted as a whole. No area can be ignored, and if people vote for smaller parties they have a decent chance of seeing that vote count. No system is perfect, but this one represents the optimum outcome that can be achieved.
This Wednesday, we will present a Bill in Parliament proposing Westminster adopt a similar system for electing the House of Commons. The Bill is supported by MPs from nearly all sides of the House, but anyone interested in the future health of British politics, and the country, should get behind it.
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Does that bring back memories for you Toby ?
Corbyn's at Mount Pleasant sorting office for National Post Workers Day
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Very good from BTL:Councils face losing control of failing children's services
High-performing local authorities, charities and experts will take over struggling services under government plans
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... cil-trusts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
sbsixty 11m ago
I was a social worker for over forty years. I retired a couple of years ago having predicted when the Tories got in that one of the end results of all their cuts to Local Authorities would be that they would run social services across the board, into the ground and then privatise them.
This was so bloody obvious when they started the budget cuts to LAs. Things became so very desperate in my local department, that they cut everything that they possibly could to the bone, then had no choice but tried to protect children's services as much as they could each year. Lots of resources that we used lost funding so disappeared, and there was absolutely no money to do preventative work. Eventually, it became fire fighting. We could only deal with the most serious cases, which inevitably left far more children at risk . Eventually, social workers were made redundant. Those that took redundancy were inevitatbly the older, longest serving and most highly trained and experienced staff. Hundreds of years of experience was walking out of the door every Friday. This left the department understaffed and under skilled. Younger staff left because there was no one to guide and support them, and to train them on the job by sharing experience. Not surprisingly Ofsted gave a bad inspection result. This will be happening across the country as LAs try hard to manage on the ever decreasing levels of funding. Starve anything long enough and it will die. I am horrified but not at all surprised by this latest announcement from the Nasty Party. This is what they have been working towards from the beginning.
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Certainly does yahyah, thanks for that. I have a few pics of Mansfield sorting office n my hard drive, it was actually against the rules to take snaps inside the office at one time, we even had to sign the official secrets act wen I first joined in 1979. That seems to have been relaxed nowadays, i see ex work colleagues all the time on Facebook uploading stuff
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Yeah - ridiculous to continue something that has been judged patently unfair when it could be stopped now. Imagine how magistrates feel still having to impose this until the arbitrary cut off date ... imagine how those affected by it feel.The Howard League @TheHowardLeague 9m9 minutes ago
Growing calls to ditch #CriminalCharge immediately rather than make courts continue to impose it until Xmas Eve: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 70131.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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Not sure how much this is wishful thinking re the impact on the SNP ... it might dent their reputation a bit - but will it really be a game changer?
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front, not the back'
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Yes. Really.
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Yes. Really.
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Let us remember that Miriam O'Reilly was who Harriet Harman - she of the impeccably working class background, of course - wanted effectively foisted on Heywood and Middleton as the Labour candidate last year. Given what actually happened in said by-election, I'm sure that would have gone just swimmingly
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Thanksephemerid wrote:Good morning, all!
Gidiot has axed a training scheme for care workers, which was due to start in the new year. The plan was to offer enhanced skills training to care staff in an attempt to extend the role of some care workers, which would help to address the shortage of qualified nurses in the care sector.
The role of "Care Practitioners" was supposed to plug existing gaps, and give care staff a career progression they currently don't have.
In the spending review, Osborne announced a £3.5 Billion package of measures to address the growing crisis in care; a significant part of that was to come from the 2% increase in council tax, and there were 7 projects due to be funded for the new training for care staff.
In 2013, he announced that the Better Care Fund would be worth £5.3 Billion; by 2014, funding had fallen to £3.8 Billion; the PAC stated in February 2015 that the planning for the Better Care Fund was a shambles and was particularly scathing about the lack of oversight, the lack of information on how savings could be achieved, and the shift in emphasis from social care to protection of NHS resources.
As with so many of this governments' announcements, what sounds good in a speech does not translate into action - and in this case, bit by bit, what started out as a good idea in theory is now reduced to more smoke and mirrors; it's a total mess.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015 ... ws-funding" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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She was a well regarded member of Labour's 2015 intake, but more recently has shown signs of being carried away by her own hype.StephenDolan wrote:'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front, not the back'
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Yes. Really.
Always remember Jess, they are only building you up now so they can dump you with greater force later
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I haven't seen or understood what it is about Jess Phillips that some people really rate - yet. Is it just that she's very plain speaking / blunt? She was on This Week the other night and was rather more coy in her answers about Corbyn and the Labour party than she is in this interview with Owen Jones. Haven't seen her talking much about policy rather than party dynamics and personalities though.StephenDolan wrote:'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front, not the back'
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
In edu news...
Pre-warning notice to St Peter’s Academy, Stoke
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... demy-stoke
Ofsted put them into special measures in January after having been graded as RI in 2013.
The sponsors have only five schools as follows in the following areas:
Sept 2009......West Sussex
Sept 2009......West Sussex
Sept 2011......Kent
Sept 2011......Stoke on Trent
Sept 2013......Tynemouth
Anyone see the problem here?
Pre-warning notice to St Peter’s Academy, Stoke
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... demy-stoke
Ofsted put them into special measures in January after having been graded as RI in 2013.
The sponsors have only five schools as follows in the following areas:
Sept 2009......West Sussex
Sept 2009......West Sussex
Sept 2011......Kent
Sept 2011......Stoke on Trent
Sept 2013......Tynemouth
Anyone see the problem here?
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What does that actually mean though? Will the amendment that Labour and Lib Dems are hoping to bring re this have a chance of getting through? Or is it still not a voting / amending matter now and so any Tories going AWOL won't make any difference?James Forsyth @JGForsyth 6m6 minutes ago
Hearing that a decent number of Tory peers are uncomfortable with Commons claiming financial privilege on votes for 16/17s & so staying away
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Well yes, your last sentence kinda sums up where we are.rebeccariots2 wrote:I haven't seen or understood what it is about Jess Phillips that some people really rate - yet. Is it just that she's very plain speaking / blunt? She was on This Week the other night and was rather more coy in her answers about Corbyn and the Labour party than she is in this interview with Owen Jones. Haven't seen her talking much about policy rather than party dynamics and personalities though.StephenDolan wrote:'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front, not the back'
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Yes. Really.
After Creasy provided her 2p,who is next up in the Mandy moderate rotation to have a piece complaining about the Labour Party, as opposed to say the government? Anyone care to make a guess?
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Amplification kindly provided by John Mann.
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@JohnMannMP John Mann Retweeted The Guardian
I told @jessphillips that she should be #Labour leader four months ago. She thought I was joking...#new generation
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'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front, not the back' – video http://trib.al/oVllfkm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Here's a follow-up from Joe Halewood on that Hyde Housing Association story we read last week:
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If there was ever a way NOT to seek good PR then yesterday’s story by Hyde Housing Association reveals all.
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Good morning everyone
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Yep. It is a variation on the "Red Tories/Labour have forgotten their union roots", which conveniently forgets that Labour also had Liberal/Fabian roots. Always been a broad church, always will be..... I hope.RobertSnozers wrote:It's just narrative, trying to discredit the person rather than the message. It goes: any socialist with a well-off background is a 'champagne socialist' and not to be taken seriously. Any socialist from a poor background is indulging in the 'politics of envy' and wants to take what other people have.yahyah wrote:I don't understand why some people decry socialists who were fortunate to have well off backgrounds.
Having empathy with, and wanting political change for those less fortunate & outside one's own experience - is that supposed to be a bad thing ?
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Would Phillips be squealing 'death threat' if anyone tweeted her that they'd knife her ?rebeccariots2 wrote:Amplification kindly provided by John Mann.
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@JohnMannMP John Mann Retweeted The Guardian
I told @jessphillips that she should be #Labour leader four months ago. She thought I was joking...#new generation
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'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front, not the back' – video http://trib.al/oVllfkm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Rather unfortunate words in light of recent anti-Corbyn/Momentum spin.
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"The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few, where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe, and where we live together, freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect."
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AngryAsWell posted last night some tweets from Peter about this:
Peter Jukes @peterjukes 46m46 minutes ago
The two suppressed stories I referred to yesterday have been squashed by editors with an agenda.
Peter Jukes @peterjukes 39m39 minutes ago
When these stories break (and they will) you'll be able to see their suppression as perfect example of Press cronyism
If anyone sees anything relating to this, please can you link it ?
Peter Jukes @peterjukes 46m46 minutes ago
The two suppressed stories I referred to yesterday have been squashed by editors with an agenda.
Peter Jukes @peterjukes 39m39 minutes ago
When these stories break (and they will) you'll be able to see their suppression as perfect example of Press cronyism
If anyone sees anything relating to this, please can you link it ?
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Queen Elizabeth Hospital: Transplant patients 'refusing weekend operations' fearing they are more likely to die
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Shocking anyway.
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Dr Palak Trivedi told the Sunday Mirror that eight critically-ill patients at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham had already refused weekend transplants because of fears for their health.
Why would you believe *unt rather than your doctor?“The reality Mr Hunt – in case you didn’t know – is that liver transplantation is a seven-day-a-week, 365-day-a-year operation.
“There is always a consultant transplant surgeon in theatre, and there is the same level of care in recovery.
"The level of expert input is the same weekday or weekend, throughout the year, in theatre, on the ward and in the intensive care."
Shocking anyway.
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My mum was a Daily Mail reader. She voted for Thatcher and Tories too, ashamed to say.
Still, an improvement on her dad who was an Italian fascist.
The Mail terrified her about medical matters.
When she went in for an operation in later life she was surprised at just how clean, well organised and caring it all was.
Still, an improvement on her dad who was an Italian fascist.
The Mail terrified her about medical matters.
When she went in for an operation in later life she was surprised at just how clean, well organised and caring it all was.
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TobyLatimer wrote:I don't get that argument, the fact that someone grew up in a secure comfortable home could just as easily convince that person that it is a good thing to do all they can to help others not as fortunate.
It makes me wonder whether she thinks the only people that are decent and capable of looking after the country are those born in a two up two down?
I'd like to think being born into a wealthy family doesn't mean a person can't be decent and caring and have the wits to take charge...
We've had some bad examples this last five years, but thanks to her hysterical outburst, she's vilifying a whole section of society that don't all deserve it.
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
gilsey wrote:Queen Elizabeth Hospital: Transplant patients 'refusing weekend operations' fearing they are more likely to die
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Dr Palak Trivedi told the Sunday Mirror that eight critically-ill patients at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham had already refused weekend transplants because of fears for their health.Why would you believe *unt rather than your doctor?“The reality Mr Hunt – in case you didn’t know – is that liver transplantation is a seven-day-a-week, 365-day-a-year operation.
“There is always a consultant transplant surgeon in theatre, and there is the same level of care in recovery.
"The level of expert input is the same weekday or weekend, throughout the year, in theatre, on the ward and in the intensive care."
Shocking anyway.
I thought everyone knew that a transplant slot depends very much on the time the persons whose organs are being used, died? That those awaiting a donor organ have a buzzer that can ring anytime of the day or night summoning them to hospital?
Edited to add. I do know that the team goes into it very thoroughly when you go onto a transplant list. I was in hospital with a beautiful young lady who had a year to live unless she got a heart and lungs ... It's not something that's gone into lightly or uninformed.
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
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We never had a buzzer but yes,need to be in 24 hour contact.
We never had a buzzer but yes,need to be in 24 hour contact.
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Shambolic, chaotic, pie in the sky, empty promises. And still people vote for them...HindleA wrote:Thanksephemerid wrote:Good morning, all!
Gidiot has axed a training scheme for care workers, which was due to start in the new year. The plan was to offer enhanced skills training to care staff in an attempt to extend the role of some care workers, which would help to address the shortage of qualified nurses in the care sector.
The role of "Care Practitioners" was supposed to plug existing gaps, and give care staff a career progression they currently don't have.
In the spending review, Osborne announced a £3.5 Billion package of measures to address the growing crisis in care; a significant part of that was to come from the 2% increase in council tax, and there were 7 projects due to be funded for the new training for care staff.
In 2013, he announced that the Better Care Fund would be worth £5.3 Billion; by 2014, funding had fallen to £3.8 Billion; the PAC stated in February 2015 that the planning for the Better Care Fund was a shambles and was particularly scathing about the lack of oversight, the lack of information on how savings could be achieved, and the shift in emphasis from social care to protection of NHS resources.
As with so many of this governments' announcements, what sounds good in a speech does not translate into action - and in this case, bit by bit, what started out as a good idea in theory is now reduced to more smoke and mirrors; it's a total mess.
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That reminded me. Eighteen years ago, mobile phones were just a distant dream ... Or jolly nearly.HindleA wrote:@ohsocynical
We never had a buzzer but yes,need to be in 24 hour contact.
God I'm old!!!!
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Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Silly anyway as it may only be a possibilty,and many hours of waiting/preparation etc.
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Well, well, well .....
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COWER BRIEF MORTALS. HO. HO. HO.
Re: Monday 14th December 2015
Wilson was wrong. Methodism was inextricably linked with the Liberal party and bitterly opposed to the rise of Labour (in Wales at least). It is no coincidence that the rise of Labour happens at the same time as the post 1905 decline in non-conformity. It was in the club, or the fed, that Labour was born not the chapel. It was an argument I saw play out at the dinner table on sundays with my grandparents many times.RobertSnozers wrote:Labour movement has 'as much to do with Methodism as Marxism', as I think Harold Wilson said. Also the Southern working classes, in particular, have always had a strong small-c conservative streak while the middle classes in the 19th century were perhaps more open to ideas of social reform.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Yep. It is a variation on the "Red Tories/Labour have forgotten their union roots", which conveniently forgets that Labour also had Liberal/Fabian roots. Always been a broad church, always will be..... I hope.RobertSnozers wrote: It's just narrative, trying to discredit the person rather than the message. It goes: any socialist with a well-off background is a 'champagne socialist' and not to be taken seriously. Any socialist from a poor background is indulging in the 'politics of envy' and wants to take what other people have.