Thursday 17th December 2015
Posted: Thu 17 Dec, 2015 7:09 am
Morning all.
Lord Mandelson told the meeting: "30,000 long term members have left the Labour party, real members, tens of thousands. There are now two Labour parties..."
Mandy, in all seriousness, what does he want to achieve saying this type of thing?TobyLatimer wrote:Panto season, that time of year when Baron Not-so-Hardup makes an appearance. He's behind you ! On no he isn't, etc
Neil Kinnock And Peter Mandelson Warn Jeremy Corbyn Over Future Direction Of Labour Party
Lord Mandelson told the meeting: "30,000 long term members have left the Labour party, real members, tens of thousands. There are now two Labour parties..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So - my question is - the one I have been mulling over as I lay in bed not wanting to get up and face the rain - does anyone think Labour could get anywhere with a push for proportional representation? Proper PR - no the miserable little compromise AV that Clegg pretended was a big deal? I would go for PR now because I just can't bear the way the Tories are basically fixing everything so that they are advantaged and could remain in power ad infinitum. I would rather we had messy government than completely fixed, one party, opaque government.Barry Gardiner @BarryGardiner 16m16 minutes ago
Gov U Turn in just 5 days
1. Announce historic Paris Agreement @COP21
2. Announce Fracking in National Parks
3. Announce 64% cut to solar
Well exactly. And we could go on ...StephenDolan wrote:Muzzling the Lords, shackling the right to strike, electoral boundary and registration changes, slashing of opposition parties short money funding, deliberately conflating the lobbying problem.
How are MSM political commentators and dare I say it, MSM political journalists not constantly shouting from the rooftops over this tyrannical behaviour?
Morning all btw!
Only things he can achieve is to remind us he is still here, something I have personally tried so hard to forget.StephenDolan wrote:Mandy, in all seriousness, what does he want to achieve saying this type of thing?TobyLatimer wrote:Panto season, that time of year when Baron Not-so-Hardup makes an appearance. He's behind you ! On no he isn't, etc
Neil Kinnock And Peter Mandelson Warn Jeremy Corbyn Over Future Direction Of Labour Party
Lord Mandelson told the meeting: "30,000 long term members have left the Labour party, real members, tens of thousands. There are now two Labour parties..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://feweek.co.uk/2015/12/14/apprenti ... ign=buffer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The government has scrapped plans to stop funding apprenticeship frameworks after 2017/18.
The cut-off, that would ensure providers were only delivering new Trailblazer standards come 2018/19, was first announced in October 2013, but speculation has been mounting in recent months as to whether ministers were looking to step back from the date.
Fuelling such speculation has been frustration in the sector at the supply of new standards, while there has also been a low take-up for those already available. But it was revealed in the government’s 2020 vision document (pictured), published on December 7, that the 2017/18 end of frameworks has now been dropped.
George Eaton tweeted yesterday that 100,000 have joined in the same time frame .... not to report / state that is very unbalanced. But they know that.StephenDolan wrote:Mandy, in all seriousness, what does he want to achieve saying this type of thing?TobyLatimer wrote:Panto season, that time of year when Baron Not-so-Hardup makes an appearance. He's behind you ! On no he isn't, etc
Neil Kinnock And Peter Mandelson Warn Jeremy Corbyn Over Future Direction Of Labour Party
Lord Mandelson told the meeting: "30,000 long term members have left the Labour party, real members, tens of thousands. There are now two Labour parties..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not dig him up, he's happy to put himself forward.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Only things he can achieve is to remind us he is still here, something I have personally tried so hard to forget.StephenDolan wrote:Mandy, in all seriousness, what does he want to achieve saying this type of thing?TobyLatimer wrote:Panto season, that time of year when Baron Not-so-Hardup makes an appearance. He's behind you ! On no he isn't, etc
Neil Kinnock And Peter Mandelson Warn Jeremy Corbyn Over Future Direction Of Labour Party
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... mg00000067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mandelson is yesterday's man, an irrelevance even more so that Blair. But I guess it suits the Fourth Estate's agenda to keep digging him up for the odd quote.
Context would be useful. What is the typical annual churn rate for example?TobyLatimer wrote:I've been trying to find some official figures regarding the actual number of Labour members. Difficult to find unless I'm probably looking in the wrong places. I've not seen that '30,000 have left' which Mandy claims anywhere else though.
First I've heard of a benefit cap under Labour - I rather thought that was the whole point of this political guff by the Tories.Ian Lavery: The Chancellor stood up and said that he was proud to have these targets set in stone. He tried to set a trap for the Labour party on this issue, but he wanted the benefits cap set in stone. The Minister is now explaining that, for the next two or three years, there is no chance of meeting those targets. Please tell us that you are slightly embarrassed or concerned.
Madam Deputy Speaker (Natascha Engel): Order. I am not embarrassed or concerned. The Minister might be, but I am not.
Mr Vara: If we are talking about embarrassment, perhaps it is the hon. Member for Wansbeck (Ian Lavery), along with those on the Opposition Front Bench, who ought to be embarrassed. They ought to be embarrassed about the millions of people who lived in misery because they were forced to become unemployed. They ought to be embarrassed because, under Labour, the welfare cap was out of control. They ought to be pleased that this Government have the guts to take the difficult decisions to bring the welfare cap back under control.
From that HuffPo piece "Although upto date figures have not been released recently, Labour has around 200,000 more members now than it had at the time of the May general election. And around 60,000 are thought to have joined since Mr Corbyn's victory in September."TobyLatimer wrote:I've been trying to find some official figures regarding the actual number of Labour members. Difficult to find unless I'm probably looking in the wrong places. I've not seen that '30,000 have left' which Mandy claims anywhere else though.
Just Xmas stuff! First morning to myself in yonks. I've been reading comments here and there, but haven't logged in so I'm not tempted to reply when I should be doing something else!rebeccariots2 wrote:Does anyone know if Willow is OK? I'm aware she hasn't been around for a bit.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... -all-about" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;... The special affection that Labour colleagues hold for Simon Danczuk, the MP for Tory Press Central, may be gauged from the positive responses to an email request for sponsorship for a charity fun run. “He would raise a fortune,” a Labour shadow minister messaged me, “if Simon simply promised to keep on running and never come back.” At five miles a day, he would be 35 miles from Westminster after the first week alone...
Oh. That the same local authority that the school didn't want any part of before?External support
The Loxford Trust continues to provide support for academy teachers and leaders. This support has been more sharply focused on areas of most need since the last inspection report. For example, the directors of science and of special educational needs work with academy colleagues to improve practice. Lead teachers from other academies in the Loxford Trust continue to carry out effective work in the academy, both where there is weakness in teaching and where there is an absence of a teacher.
The local authority provides appropriate challenge to the academy through regular visits and membership of the local governing body.
StephenDolan wrote:From that HuffPo piece "Although upto date figures have not been released recently, Labour has around 200,000 more members now than it had at the time of the May general election. And around 60,000 are thought to have joined since Mr Corbyn's victory in September."TobyLatimer wrote:I've been trying to find some official figures regarding the actual number of Labour members. Difficult to find unless I'm probably looking in the wrong places. I've not seen that '30,000 have left' which Mandy claims anywhere else though.
How many of these were previously affiliated via unions? 140,000 difference May to September (without including churn) is a heck of a lot.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... -one-again" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Indeed, support for Corbyn may now be higher than at the time of his election in September. More than 100,000 members have joined the party since then, while around 30,000 others have departed in protest, with the net result that Labour’s activist base has moved further leftwards. Under the party’s new electoral system, it is the grass roots that are sovereign.
I'd say it's an over-reaction. Although the Lords has its issues and should be more democratic, it remains the only second chamber we have. In scrutinising legislation and holding the government to account it's merely doing its job. Any change that restricts the role and powers of the upper chamber has a fundamental impact on the structure of our democracy. In other words, what is being proposed is rather more significant than recent reforms such as the reduction of hereditary peers, which is change of personnel rather than a change of function. As far as I'm concerned, only an electoral mandate would give the government of the day the democratic right to change our democratic system. Slowly chipping away at the powers of the second chamber is not the way to go about such a significant change. If the Tories want a unicameral parliament they should put it in their manifesto and let voters decide if they want one, not sneak one in by the back door. I share others' frustration with the lack of journalistic uproar over this. Would they be so quiet if it was Tony Blair fiddling with our democracy to bludgeon through policies no one voted for?Baroness Smith of Basildon, Labour's leader in the Lords, said her party would examine Lord Strathclyde's report but said she was "still not convinced there was a problem there in the first place".
She added: "As most people at Parliament know, the government lost a vote on tax credits and in a massive over-reaction have decided to try and change the rules of the game.
"That looked churlish at the time and it feels no different now."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blo ... itics-blog" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;This is the last day I will be writing the blog this year.
Next week I will put up a readers’ edition blog on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. But then I am proposing to leave it until Monday 4 January, when I will be back writing my normal blog, on the grounds that all sensible people need a break from politics between Christmas and the New Year. But if there is very, very strong demand for a readers’ edition that week, I could reconsider. Let me know what you think BTL. For anyone desperate for a politics fix, I presume my friends at flythenest will be in action.
I'll probably pop over and wish him a Merry Christmas (if I'm still registered or whatever).
This is the last day I will be writing the blog this year.
Next week I will put up a readers’ edition blog on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. But then I am proposing to leave it until Monday 4 January, when I will be back writing my normal blog, on the grounds that all sensible people need a break from politics between Christmas and the New Year. But if there is very, very strong demand for a readers’ edition that week, I could reconsider. Let me know what you think BTL. For anyone desperate for a politics fix, I presume my friends at flythenest will be in action. (my emphasis)
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... nKPi5FFDIU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Julie Burchill, who tips Phillips as a future Labour leader, has described the 34-year-old MP as an ‘overgrown schoolgirl’ and a ‘Mrs Pankhurst meets Tigger in Topshop’.
artistic licenceAnatolyKasparov wrote:...but what's the Kinnock reference in the above headline about?
Ruth Hayhurst @ruthhayhurst 3 hrs3 hours ago
How MPs voted in yesterday’s #fracking ballot - full list now out http://wp.me/p3OyVh-3dt
Just went there to see how my MP voted, although it was a waste of time...Dr. Chris Jones @dr_chris_jones 5 mins5 minutes ago
.@ruthhayhurst How come 39 Labour and Labour Co-op MPs didn't vote? That's more than government majority.
That's nowt! She was on the Moral Maze last week or the week before. BBC has jumped the shark.rebeccariots2 wrote:Why the hell are Womans Hour giving space to Katie Hopkins to spout her horrible views?
Osborne suggested that FE colleges become part of academy chains in order to avoid the VAT that they currently have to suffer. The trade-off is the loss of autonomy with an academy trust telling you what to do...StephenDolan wrote:Milburn, you're giving cover a la Field. You do realise this?
" Other recommendations include a fund to test new ways of improving parenting skills, a zero-tolerance approach to schools and further education colleges that fail to meet minimum standards by requiring them to become parts of academy chains, and better employment incentives in universal credit. "
The Government Is Trying To 'Bury' A Lot Of 'Bad News' On Parliament's Last Day Before Christmas
A raft of written ministerial statements were this morning tabled on a series of controversial areas, including the Muslim Brotherhood, police spending, badger culling, and cuts to green energy funding.
Among the most embarrassing revelations is likely to be how much chauffeur-driven ministerial cars are costing the taxpayer - detail the Department has failed to publish in the last three years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... 1450352821
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blo ... itics-blog" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Finally, in order to mitigate against excessive use of the new process which I have proposed under option 3, I believe it would be appropriate for the government to take steps to ensure that bills contain an appropriate level of detail and that too much is not left for implementation by statutory instrument.
NonOxCol wrote:Good morning.
I am a bit out of the loop, and can't find a reference anywhere - are there to be 'Groan Awards' for 2015?
If so, can I nominate this? For some sort of all-time award.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... lfare-vote" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The downright cynical use of identity politics by certain people (as if Corbyn, whatever else you say about him, doesn't have a pretty much unimpeachable record on these things) has been one of a few depressing things that has come to the fore since the GE.NonOxCol wrote:Good morning.
I am a bit out of the loop, and can't find a reference anywhere - are there to be 'Groan Awards' for 2015?
If so, can I nominate this? For some sort of all-time award.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... lfare-vote" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A new bullying row hit the Conservative Party today after one of its MPs was accused of “vicious” verbal abuse against members of her own staff.
In phone calls heard by the Standard, Lucy Allan rants at a female staffer on sick leave — describing her absence as “pathetic”, telling her she “pissed around on my life” and accusing her of having an “alcohol problem”.
The MP for Telford threatens to sack the young woman if she takes four weeks off, as advised by her doctor.
She tells her: “I’m not paying you for that then. It’s ridiculous.”
Deary me.A new bullying row hit the Conservative Party today after one of its MPs was accused of “vicious” verbal abuse against members of her own staff.
In phone calls heard by the Standard, Lucy Allan rants at a female staffer on sick leave — describing her absence as “pathetic”, telling her she “pissed around on my life” and accusing her of having an “alcohol problem”.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics ... 39526.html
She is the sort of person you'd want as a next door neighbour ---NOT.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Bless 'er, she is a shining example of compassionate conservatism at its best.
The eejit has landed.David Cameron has arrived in Brussels for the EU summit. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Still, at least she can't do any more harm.StephenDolan wrote:Sell out Shirl to retire. Mission accomplished.