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Good morning. It gives me some pleasure to be able to post this - on Boxing Day in particular.

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Opposition to fox hunting hits all-time high with even most Tory voters opposed
David Cameron has promised steps towards lifting the ban, however

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 86411.html


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... Crucially, opposition to the animal killings was just as strong in rural areas as urban areas – with 84 per cent and 82 per cent opposed respectively.

Conservative voters were also overwhelmingly against legalisation, spittling 70 per cent to 27 per cent in favour of keeping the fox hunting ban.

Pollsters Ipsos MORI have asked the public the same question each year for around a decade and found very strong opposition each time.

This year’s figures represent a new all-time high, however...


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... At least 50 Conservative MPs have apparently clearly stated that they would oppose a repeal of the hunting ban, according to the campaign group – compared to just six MPs who supported the hunting ban when it was first brought in.

The parliamentary arithmatic means that even if SNP MPs were not allowed to vote on the matter the Government would likely face defeat anyway...


You didn't think you'd escape a post from me on this subject over the hols, did you? Did you?

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Good morning. It gives me some pleasure to be able to post this - on Boxing Day in particular.

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Opposition to fox hunting hits all-time high with even most Tory voters opposed
David Cameron has promised steps towards lifting the ban, however

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 86411.html


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... Crucially, opposition to the animal killings was just as strong in rural areas as urban areas – with 84 per cent and 82 per cent opposed respectively.

Conservative voters were also overwhelmingly against legalisation, spittling 70 per cent to 27 per cent in favour of keeping the fox hunting ban.

Pollsters Ipsos MORI have asked the public the same question each year for around a decade and found very strong opposition each time.

This year’s figures represent a new all-time high, however...


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... At least 50 Conservative MPs have apparently clearly stated that they would oppose a repeal of the hunting ban, according to the campaign group – compared to just six MPs who supported the hunting ban when it was first brought in.

The parliamentary arithmatic means that even if SNP MPs were not allowed to vote on the matter the Government would likely face defeat anyway...


You didn't think you'd escape a post from me on this subject over the hols, did you? Did you?



Well, if I'm honest - no. It's good news, isn't it?


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Hope everyone got the presents they asked for.


Cheers refitman, you could say I did. A few days ago my neighbour mentioned the chap opposite me, about 20 years my senior, she was concerned for his health as he didn't seem himself, slight breathlessness and slurred speech. He and I are always joking and pulling each other's leg. Indeed he has a wicked humour with all, much of it goes unnoticed by many I'm afraid, so quick is he.

Anyway not having seen any activity since, I called round when I saw the neighbours through their window before picking up my daughter. Apparently he's fine and spending Christmas with a girlfriend. Good on him, that cheered me up no end.

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@David_Cameron here's a picture of Hebden Bridge this morning. You really think cutting money to flood defences is a


I really don't think that "a very wet few days" is any big deal.


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Morning (it's before lunch so that's still morning) all.

Hope everyone's having fun,

Quiet day yesterday without the kids so we went off to church in the morning and Skyped them in the afternoon.

Orient this afternoon which, if they play like last week, will be utterly terrible.

Interesting watching reruns of the 1975 and 1979 Top of the Pops. A reminder of how bad the charts could be before 1977...

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@David_Cameron here's a picture of Hebden Bridge this morning. You really think cutting money to flood defences is a


I really don't think that "a very wet few days" is any big deal.


With views like that PF I think you could be the perfect partner for Cameron in a fish slapping pair dance. :)

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Ministers consider new body to prove hunting helps animal welfare to win over anti-hunting MPs - via @Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... g-MPs.html

Oh FFS.

Just about every word of that tells you how wrong and zealously so they are.

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And right on cue...


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Still makes me chortle. :lol: I think it's the daintiness of the little bloke's steps.

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I'm always a bit intrigued by these "red tape gone mad" stories and wonder how many of the examples arise from people being given the wrong advice...but also the background of the people behind the story.

Criminal records checks for choir members, bell ringers, flower arrangers at highest level for four years

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/12050460/Criminal-records-checks-for-choir-members-bell-ringers-flower-arrangers-at-highest-level-for-four-years.html

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A series of Freedom of Information requests by the Manifesto Club, which campaigns for less regulation in everyday life, found that in 2014/14 there were 199 checks on volunteer bellringers,726 checks on choirmembers, 57 checks on grandparent volunteers and 23 checks on flower arrangers.


Who?

Well...it's run by someone called Josie Appleton.

http://www.manifestoclub.com/

And if you look elsewhere... http://powerbase.info/index.php/Josie_Appleton

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There's a surprise...

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"Boxing Day"
Song by Robb Johnson
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There's a fence around the common land,
put there by the law,
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
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@David_Cameron here's a picture of Hebden Bridge this morning. You really think cutting money to flood defences is a


I really don't think that "a very wet few days" is any big deal.


With views like that PF I think you could be the perfect partner for Cameron in a fish slapping pair dance. :)



Er - that was a quote from David Cameron! Oi - what do you take me for?


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Middle-class volunteers,apparently should be exempt from sensible precautionary measures-WTF?


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@David_Cameron here's a picture of Hebden Bridge this morning. You really think cutting money to flood defences is a


I really don't think that "a very wet few days" is any big deal.


With views like that PF I think you could be the perfect partner for Cameron in a fish slapping pair dance. :)



Er - that was a quote from David Cameron! Oi - what do you take me for?


Little bit of a Boxing Day wind up there PF - sorry - I knew what you meant.

Mind you - I had you down as the one with the gert big fish that smacks the little geezer off his feet and into the drink, if that's any consolation.

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Inked_Fi ‏@Fi1Ramsden 36m36 minutes ago
@David_Cameron here's a picture of Hebden Bridge this morning. You really think cutting money to flood defences is a


I really don't think that "a very wet few days" is any big deal.


With views like that PF I think you could be the perfect partner for Cameron in a fish slapping pair dance. :)



Er - that was a quote from David Cameron! Oi - what do you take me for?


Little bit of a Boxing Day wind up there PF - sorry - I knew what you meant.

Mind you - I had you down as the one with the gert big fish that smacks the little geezer off his feet and into the drink, if that's any consolation.



Ha! You had me going, there! I was thinking, "Oh, for fox sake!" and all sorts . . . .


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Never mind 'sacked in the morning'. Van Gaal might be sacked at half-time,


Oh dear - is it that bad? Mr Riots can no longer bring himself to watch or follow ... it's too painful.

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Never mind 'sacked in the morning'. Van Gaal might be sacked at half-time,


Oh dear - is it that bad? Mr Riots can no longer bring himself to watch or follow ... it's too painful.


I remember when an Orient favourite - Terry Howard - was sacked at HT. He didn't come out after the break and we were left wondering where he'd gone as the substitution wasn't announced. It was only later that we heard the full story.

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Oh dear, someone is going to be very confused today as to which team to support...

Aston Villa 15:00 West Ham

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Never mind 'sacked in the morning'. Van Gaal might be sacked at half-time,


Oh dear - is it that bad? Mr Riots can no longer bring himself to watch or follow ... it's too painful.


It is bad, trust me :oops:


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Did someone mention Sexy Fish?

Sexy Fish, London W1: ‘The food? It’s entirely forgettable’

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/dec/26/sexy-fish-london-restaurant-review-marina-o-loughlin

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But it makes me come over all horrified Edwardian dowager, clutching pearls and gasping: “My dears, the unspeakable vulgarity.” None of this is deterring the place’s natural constituency: already, there have been sightings of Cliff Richard and Piers Morgan. Imagine.

And, naturally, it’s already booked out; we have to accept a 10pm table on a school night. You come to Berkeley Square for your Bentleys and Bugattis, and here is the restaurant that this part of London so richly deserves. We’re told Sexy Fish cost £20m. A table of men beside us hardly look up from their phones all night; as far as this lot are concerned, they might as well have papered the walls with 50 quid notes and have done with it.


Think I'll pass...

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Can't take a screenshot,
but flood warning map is very busy

https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/map


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frackfree_eu ‏@frackfree_eu 14 mins14 minutes ago

Two million gallons of radioactive waste! #flooding #fracking #Cuadrilla frackfree_eu added,

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7.30pm 2night BBC1 Northwest:Cuadrilla dump 2million gallons of radioactive water in #Manchester Ship Canal

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Rising levels on #Manchester Ship Canal http://bbc.in/1Tl8dJ8 This is where #Cuadrilla dumped its radioactive waste! #fracking #flooding

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/456251/Dashed-hopes-of-cheap-gas-as-fracking-giant-Cuadrilla-scales-back

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Not me.Still waiting for George Clooney.


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Hope everyone is warm and dry today,and had the sort of Christmas day they wanted yesterday.
I've just been over to the Guardian to read the flood liveblog.Some (half)wit has added an advert for sanitary towels,with 100% leak protection into the blog.
Thinking it may take more than a few of those to stem the rising waters!


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He's living just a few miles away at Sonning. I'd sneak you in, but he's had loads of security cameras put up ... :roll:

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Hope everyone is warm and dry today,and had the sort of Christmas day they wanted yesterday.
I've just been over to the Guardian to read the flood liveblog.Some (half)wit has added an advert for sanitary towels,with 100% leak protection into the blog.
Thinking it may take more than a few of those to stem the rising waters!
I'm well enough here in Stoke, Rebecca, thank you. I hope everyone has what they need.

Currently, the live flood blog doesn't have comments opened and I'm disappointed. I miss informative commentators writing about their experiences, power supply and Internet connection permitting.

The thread attracts less useful posts. Beryl's spouse must be a regular - demands thread contributors provide documentation they've personally rescued life, property and opened their homes to everyone having the temerity to question and hold Tory government responsible for budget cuts rendering more expensive emergency responses inevitable.


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He's living just a few miles away at Sonning. I'd sneak you in, but he's had loads of security cameras put up ... :roll:



Wrong place. This was meant for Rebecca. :? And I promise you. Not a drop of alcohol has passed my lips for weeks. :roll:

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Hope everyone is warm and dry today,and had the sort of Christmas day they wanted yesterday.
I've just been over to the Guardian to read the flood liveblog.Some (half)wit has added an advert for sanitary towels,with 100% leak protection into the blog.
Thinking it may take more than a few of those to stem the rising waters!


Won't they only work with blue water?


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Dave Haslam ‏@Mr_Dave_Haslam 1 hr1 hour ago

Ribble Valley Borough Council - they might want to rethink this...(A59 Whalley Arches) #flooding

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Never mind 'sacked in the morning'. Van Gaal might be sacked at half-time,


Oh dear - is it that bad? Mr Riots can no longer bring himself to watch or follow ... it's too painful.


It is bad, trust me :oops:


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It looks like Leeds is about to see some very serious flooding, with the Aire at all time record highs.

And the shocking thing is that the forecast up here in the hills for tonight is hours and hours more heavy rain. I do hope the folk in the towns and cities down there stay safe.


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Think we best abandon ship. Water is still rising, windows are creaking & only one of us can swim #flooding

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Terrifying. The Environment Agency report the Aire at Armley (just upstream of Leeds City Centre) as 0.58 m higher than ever recorded.


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We have had a day without heavy rain - welcome respite. But we've had gale force winds.

Those winds have got stronger and stronger and are now accompanied by horizontal lashing rain - which is set to last overnight according to the forecast.

Expecting a power cut at some point - the winds are just so fierce.

Hopefully we won't get bad flooding because we've had a short time without rain ... but we've got two red warnings out for the Pembrokeshire area - the coast and lower Teifi.

Also hoping we are not going to have make an emergency visit to the vets either later tonight or tomorrow. Not good with one of our dogs. She was unable to get out of the car when we came back from a walk earlier - we had to carry her in a blanket.

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Absolutely awful. I can't imagine how frightening it must be to be looking out of the window and knowing that your home will soon be underwater. People who are elderly, live alone or too disabled to get out without assistance. Or on your own sick in bed when the electricity suddenly fails, the windows crack and filthy water starts creeping in.


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Good evening.
I live in the sodden North West but fortunately on the coast, away from torrential rivers. I would say that this year even here I have noticed rainwater having difficulty in flowing away down the drains with consequent pools building out into the roadways. I'm sure this is because the council cut back on sweeping leaves and clearing gutters. This rotting organic material must build up at various points of the rainwater system causing problems. Who's fault? We all know and I think they know who they are! They know the cost of everything but the value of nothing! It breaks my heart to see our beautiful countryside and villages devastated by the action and inaction of this miserable Government. Shame on them.


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The EA said 85% of the country's temporary flood barriers had been sent to Cumbria, where
rainfall has smashed records...The Environment Agency is reporting rivers in Lancashire at
their highest recorded levels.

Waters have peaked in Whalley and are expected to do so in Ribchester at 6.15pm
....the Met Office is forecasting 'a further spell of heavy rain' this evening.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/ne ... ng_issued/

Reports of an explosion in Bury - River Irwell bursting its banks
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We live in town. They clean the drains once a year. In early September. Before the leaves start to fall....

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No one can say we didn't know how expensive austerity flood prevention infrastructure spending would be before now.


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TobyLatimer wrote:
Absolutely awful. I can't imagine how frightening it must be to be looking out of the window and knowing that your home will soon be underwater. People who are elderly, live alone or too disabled to get out without assistance. Or on your own sick in bed when the electricity suddenly fails, the windows crack and filthy water starts creeping in.

The situation is changing so fast, information is difficult to find and understand. My household has power, isn't flooded, though it's windy, raining like hell and have Internet capacity.Nearly a fifth of all households in the UK don't have an Internet connection at home.


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A gas main is burning on the edge of the River Irwell in Radcliffe, Greater Manchester

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There was an aerial shot of a sewerage processing plant in Manchester that looked vulnerable and nearly underwater , if that were to start leaking there would be havoc.


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They should hold another of their now regular emergency meetings of the Cock-ups Or Bollocks Rivers Apologists with their chairman the deluded King 'Kanute' Cameron who will surely volunteer to hold the waters back with his undaunted faith in the Trident held aloft!


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