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Um. I know this is going to show my age, but what's a 'popper'?
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For @ephemerid

One of my local party members thought you might like this.

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ohsocynical wrote:Um. I know this is going to show my age, but what's a 'popper'?
What's the context? As in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?
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StephenDolan wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Um. I know this is going to show my age, but what's a 'popper'?
What's the context? As in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ?

Ah. Thanks. Mr Ohso and I never had any need for stuff like that. :o :lol:
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The "context" is that the MP Crispin Blunt - who of course came out a few years ago - has just admitted that he uses them.
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Just come back from school where I was handed a letter from, guess who, our Regional Schools Commissioner.

Basically it boils down to "Hey, how about becoming an academy? Do it now before you're forced to..."

Ironic that he:

1. has more powers over schools now than when he was at Essex CC and
2. because he is based in Cambridge, is now further away from those schools he ran (sic) when he was Director of Education at Essex CC.

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ohsocynical wrote:On Twitter someone asked how many well off people's children would become nurses. The answer of course is few if any.
Someone else said well how would the NHS carry on with a shortage of nurses to train.

It seems pretty simple to me.

Branson and his ilk take over. Recruit abroad for already trained nurses. Pay them more than they'd get in their own country, but less than they'd have to pay an English nurse.
Have them all on contract. No employment rights, and back they go after a bit. Plus of course they aren't eligible for tax credits or any form of Social Security for four years.

Win win ....
Why would foreign nurses work for cheap?

They will have recruitment agents phoning them up with offers all the time.l
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ohsocynical wrote:On Twitter someone asked how many well off people's children would become nurses. The answer of course is few if any.
Someone else said well how would the NHS carry on with a shortage of nurses to train.

It seems pretty simple to me.

Branson and his ilk take over. Recruit abroad for already trained nurses. Pay them more than they'd get in their own country, but less than they'd have to pay an English nurse.
Have them all on contract. No employment rights, and back they go after a bit. Plus of course they aren't eligible for tax credits or any form of Social Security for four years.

Win win ....
Why would foreign nurses work for cheap?

They will have recruitment agents phoning them up with offers all the time.l
I think you missed the point.

With the breakup of the NHS who is going to train nurses over here? Government's washing its hand of bursaries etc. Can you see companies like Virgin going to the expense? Easier to bring in already trained staff. And there'll certainly be countries that pay less than we do.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:The "context" is that the MP Crispin Blunt - who of course came out a few years ago - has just admitted that he uses them.
Not worried about what he's doing to his body then ... Idiot.
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Tory landlord guilty of failing to repair run-down house after criminal prosecution by his OWN council
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A Tory councillor has admitted being a dodgy landlord after his OWN council mounted a prosecution against him.

Jonny Bucknell, 58, admitted failing to carry out necessary improvements on a run-down home he lets following action by London's Camden Council.

He pleaded guilty to the offence but asked for more time to defend himself before he is sentenced.

Bucknell - the local Tories' ex-housing spokesperson - failed to make the repairs despite boasting online that his late dad was the hero of Britain's DIY movement.
... Bucknell, who has sat on the council for at least five years, was reprimanded in April when he was spotted tucking into a roast duck dinner during a council meeting.

He demanded the rules should be changed after he was told to put down his cutlery by the mayor, Lazzaro Pietragnoli.

Bucknell also found fame by sleeping in the back of his Volvo during 2013's Conservative party conference in order to save on hotel bills.
This man 'finds fame' for all the wrong reasons.
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iain watson ‏@iainjwatson 1 min1 minute ago

Breaking: Labour win a vote in the Lords on the trade union bill - new committee to look at other reforms to funding of other parties too
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iain watson ‏@iainjwatson 2m2 minutes ago
Breaking: Labour win a vote in the Lords on the trade union bill - new committee to look at other reforms to funding of other parties too
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Snap Ohso.

(We're good aren't we!)
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LabourLordsUK ‏@LabourLordsUK 8m8 minutes ago
#TUBill Lords vote in favour of @LadyBasildon motion 327 to 234 - majority 93.
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A chink of light.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/01 ... 16474.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Volunteer Student Lawyers Have 96% Success Rate In Overturning The DWP's 'Fit To Work' Rulings

"A DWP spokesman said: “A decision on whether someone is well enough to work is taken following a thorough independent assessment, and after consideration of all the supporting medical evidence provided to us by the claimant’s GP or medical specialist.

"Anyone has the right to appeal, and if an appeal is upheld that is usually because additional evidence has been submitted that was not provided during the initial assessment.”


So clear admission that the default is to deny.
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Bye Simon,BG engineer,thankyou for explaining the basics of my heating system and a Magnabooster,my pipes will be forever grateful.
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Ah .... Radio 4 reading out emails and tweets from people who are peed off with Mark Carney's 'Forward Guidance'. They actually listened to his 'guidance' and took out fixed rate mortgages on the basis of him telling us interest rates were going to go up. Result - they are stuck in deals at much higher rates than they would be if they had ignored him ....
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ohsocynical wrote:
I think you missed the point.

With the breakup of the NHS who is going to train nurses over here? Government's washing its hand of bursaries etc. Can you see companies like Virgin going to the expense? Easier to bring in already trained staff. And there'll certainly be countries that pay less than we do.
What Virgin would really like is for the UK to pay to train nurses who then work for them. It's much better that way. Virgin would look to get more involved in the training too.

And of course places like the Philippines pay less than we do. But they can look up the going rate in the UK on the internet. They're not going to work for less than that in the longer term.

I think the lack of training nurses here (who wouldn't all be UK nationals) is the classic Tory false economy rather than part of a ruthlessly efficient plan. Same as the limits on migration are.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:

Bucknell also found fame by sleeping in the back of his Volvo during 2013's Conservative party conference in order to save on hotel bills.
This man 'finds fame' for all the wrong reasons.
Assuming that the constituency party were giving him money for a hotel room, so he thought he'd pocket the cash?
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Adam Smith ‏@adamtimsmith 46m46 minutes ago
Foreign Sec Philip Hammond: "we are very concerned by the noises coming out the Commission about changes to the Dublin agreement" #EU
I'll bet you are.

I see Yvette Cooper has called for an end to Schengen - reintroduction of internal border checks and passport use within the EU. If they want to move away from the Dublin agreement Schengen is a goner anyway. It's already pretty much gone.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:

Bucknell also found fame by sleeping in the back of his Volvo during 2013's Conservative party conference in order to save on hotel bills.
This man 'finds fame' for all the wrong reasons.
Assuming that the constituency party were giving him money for a hotel room, so he thought he'd pocket the cash?
I don't know about that Tubby. The reports of it didn't give that much detail - just say he is 'thrifty' and won't pay what he considers overpriced hotel fees.
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The Yorkshire Post ‏@yorkshirepost 13m13 minutes ago
No new money for Leeds flood defences, MP is told. #floods http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/no- ... z3xoJ8BPm3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
and the Yorkshire Post isn't slow in coming forward to say what they think of the Defra position ...
YP Comment: Leeds flood defence snub is indefensible - and a false economy
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opi ... -1-7686442" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
... HOW many times must Leeds – the third largest city in the country – be flooded before the Government digs deep and provides adequate defences for the many homes and businesses which find themselves at risk when the river Aire bursts its banks?

It is a question which David Cameron is now duty-bound to answer after Elizabeth Truss, the Environment Secretary who actually grew up in Leeds, told local MPs told local MPs that the budgets of Defra – and the Environment Agency – are so set in stone for six years that she can’t even afford a £3m feasibility study at present.

Not only is such short-sightedness a total false economy, especially if Leeds is submerged in the interim, but it means that the city – key to the region’s economic prosperity – could be waiting a generation for the defences first proposed after the 2007 floods and which then fell victim to coalition cuts in 2011...
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Adam Smith ‏@adamtimsmith 46m46 minutes ago
Foreign Sec Philip Hammond: "we are very concerned by the noises coming out the Commission about changes to the Dublin agreement" #EU
I'll bet you are.

I see Yvette Cooper has called for an end to Schengen - reintroduction of internal border checks and passport use within the EU. If they want to move away from the Dublin agreement Schengen is a goner anyway. It's already pretty much gone.
I think it's probably referring to this.
The Dublin III Regulation (No. 604/2013) was approved in June 2013, replacing the Dublin II Regulation, and applies to all member states except Denmark.[10] It came into force on 19 July 2013. It is based on the same principle on the previous two i.e. that the first Member State where finger prints are stored or an asylum claim is lodged is responsible for a person's asylum claim.
I imagine that countries through which Syrians are passing first are avoiding fingerprinting so that they don't get stuck with all the asylum claims in the first instance.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:Ah .... Radio 4 reading out emails and tweets from people who are peed off with Mark Carney's 'Forward Guidance'. They actually listened to his 'guidance' and took out fixed rate mortgages on the basis of him telling us interest rates were going to go up. Result - they are stuck in deals at much higher rates than they would be if they had ignored him ....
You mean there are supposedely intelligent people out there who still listen to and believe what they're told by people in banking?

Sheesh :roll:
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Eluned Morgan ‏@Eluned_Morgan 3m3 minutes ago
Incredible first victory in trade union bill with 93 majority. There will now be an objective assessment of impact of bill on party funding.
Will be out campaigning with Eluned at the weekend. Good to see her so active in the Lords.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
The Yorkshire Post ‏@yorkshirepost 13m13 minutes ago
No new money for Leeds flood defences, MP is told. #floods http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/no- ... z3xoJ8BPm3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
and the Yorkshire Post isn't slow in coming forward to say what they think of the Defra position ...
YP Comment: Leeds flood defence snub is indefensible - and a false economy
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opi ... -1-7686442" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
... HOW many times must Leeds – the third largest city in the country – be flooded before the Government digs deep and provides adequate defences for the many homes and businesses which find themselves at risk when the river Aire bursts its banks?

It is a question which David Cameron is now duty-bound to answer after Elizabeth Truss, the Environment Secretary who actually grew up in Leeds, told local MPs told local MPs that the budgets of Defra – and the Environment Agency – are so set in stone for six years that she can’t even afford a £3m feasibility study at present.

Not only is such short-sightedness a total false economy, especially if Leeds is submerged in the interim, but it means that the city – key to the region’s economic prosperity – could be waiting a generation for the defences first proposed after the 2007 floods and which then fell victim to coalition cuts in 2011...
This is the sort of nonsense that's going to come up in all departments. It's one thing to cut "running costs" but there won't be any money left to respond to events in a sensible way.

Osborne's made a big song and dance about protecting capital spend on rail. But when things go awry, you might need to do some expensive extra work to be sure of the way forward. Without that, you're likely to blunder on making more mistakes.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Adam Smith ‏@adamtimsmith 46m46 minutes ago
Foreign Sec Philip Hammond: "we are very concerned by the noises coming out the Commission about changes to the Dublin agreement" #EU
I'll bet you are.

I see Yvette Cooper has called for an end to Schengen - reintroduction of internal border checks and passport use within the EU. If they want to move away from the Dublin agreement Schengen is a goner anyway. It's already pretty much gone.
I think it's probably referring to this.
The Dublin III Regulation (No. 604/2013) was approved in June 2013, replacing the Dublin II Regulation, and applies to all member states except Denmark.[10] It came into force on 19 July 2013. It is based on the same principle on the previous two i.e. that the first Member State where finger prints are stored or an asylum claim is lodged is responsible for a person's asylum claim.
I imagine that countries through which Syrians are passing first are avoiding fingerprinting so that they don't get stuck with all the asylum claims in the first instance.
Merkel wants a new quota sharing scheme and the Dublin agreement scrapped - yes, pretty sure you are right, mainly because it isn't happening - few of those involved want it to work. The UK likes the scheme, of course, as we're generally not the first EU country an asylum seeker arrives in. Cameron must be gnashing his teeth with this issue coming up just as his negotiation deal is about to be closed.
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Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 4m4 minutes ago
Nick Boles on TUBill defeat: "The Labour Party want to rip up the trade union laws and drag Britain back to the bad days of the 1970s”
I am not a violent person by nature ... but by heck I could really make an exception for some of these plonkers.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
I think you missed the point.

With the breakup of the NHS who is going to train nurses over here? Government's washing its hand of bursaries etc. Can you see companies like Virgin going to the expense? Easier to bring in already trained staff. And there'll certainly be countries that pay less than we do.
What Virgin would really like is for the UK to pay to train nurses who then work for them. It's much better that way. Virgin would look to get more involved in the training too.

And of course places like the Philippines pay less than we do. But they can look up the going rate in the UK on the internet. They're not going to work for less than that in the longer term.

I think the lack of training nurses here (who wouldn't all be UK nationals) is the classic Tory false economy rather than part of a ruthlessly efficient plan. Same as the limits on migration are.

There won't be an NHS. that's the whole point of it.
No NHS covering the cost of sky high agency fees.
No NHS to train nurses to the highest standards.
And why would they want or need nursing staff for the longer term?
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ohsocynical wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:The "context" is that the MP Crispin Blunt - who of course came out a few years ago - has just admitted that he uses them.
Not worried about what he's doing to his body then ... Idiot.
They're probably not very dangerous. They come in a small bottle, and you smell them and get a fairly brief headrush. Quite a few straight people do them, and they're legal.
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Iain Duncan Smith to go it alone in campaign to leave EU http://gu.com/p/4g258/stw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That headline makes him sound ridiculous.

Wish he were only that.
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ohsocynical wrote: There won't be an NHS. that's the whole point of it.
No NHS covering the cost of sky high agency fees.
No NHS to train nurses to the highest standards.
And why would they want or need nursing staff for the longer term?
Perfect result for private health is to have the NHS there as a backstop. And to have the state paying Branson and all to train nurses.

It's what's happened with academies- my friend in South East London couldn't train as a teacher without doing it at an academy. The academy (Harris) duly put her off teaching forever.
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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Merkel wants a new quota sharing scheme and the Dublin agreement scrapped - yes, pretty sure you are right, mainly because it isn't happening - few of those involved want it to work. The UK likes the scheme, of course, as we're generally not the first EU country an asylum seeker arrives in. Cameron must be gnashing his teeth with this issue coming up just as his negotiation deal is about to be closed.
I'm only guessing, so don't take me too seeriously!

Of course, what we haven't been told re Cameron "renegotiating" is that others will see it as an opportunity to get stuff changed in their favour.

- So... this ever closer union thing. I reckon we can do something there.
- Brilliant!
- But we don't like that Dublin Accord. How about we change that?
- Oh shit.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Merkel wants a new quota sharing scheme and the Dublin agreement scrapped - yes, pretty sure you are right, mainly because it isn't happening - few of those involved want it to work. The UK likes the scheme, of course, as we're generally not the first EU country an asylum seeker arrives in. Cameron must be gnashing his teeth with this issue coming up just as his negotiation deal is about to be closed.
I'm only guessing, so don't take me too seeriously!

Of course, what we haven't been told re Cameron "renegotiating" is that others will see it as an opportunity to get stuff changed in their favour.

- So... this ever closer union thing. I reckon we can do something there.
- Brilliant!
- But we don't like that Dublin Accord. How about we change that?
- Oh shit.
Oh no Tubby - I take you very seeriously cos I think you're spot on. Of course the others are going to push back to get something for themselves out of this charade ....
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I'm very flattered!

If Cameron does concede something that costs the UK a lot, he'll doubtless try to hide it. The Telegraph will call it out (correctly) and the In side take a nasty hit.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:The "context" is that the MP Crispin Blunt - who of course came out a few years ago - has just admitted that he uses them.
Not worried about what he's doing to his body then ... Idiot.
They're probably not very dangerous. They come in a small bottle, and you smell them and get a fairly brief headrush. Quite a few straight people do them, and they're legal.
They also act as a (mild) muscle relaxant.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: There won't be an NHS. that's the whole point of it.
No NHS covering the cost of sky high agency fees.
No NHS to train nurses to the highest standards.
And why would they want or need nursing staff for the longer term?
Perfect result for private health is to have the NHS there as a backstop. And to have the state paying Branson and all to train nurses.

It's what's happened with academies- my friend in South East London couldn't train as a teacher without doing it at an academy. The academy (Harris) duly put her off teaching forever.
We shall end up with the American system. Are you familiar with all the ins and outs of it? Even GP practice won't be the same.

There are going to be some seriously pissed 'better off' families when that happens...They won't know what's hit them.
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refitman wrote:
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ohsocynical wrote: Not worried about what he's doing to his body then ... Idiot.
They're probably not very dangerous. They come in a small bottle, and you smell them and get a fairly brief headrush. Quite a few straight people do them, and they're legal.
They also act as a (mild) muscle relaxant.
Rather like what you take for angina? No thanks!
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ohsocynical wrote:
refitman wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote: They're probably not very dangerous. They come in a small bottle, and you smell them and get a fairly brief headrush. Quite a few straight people do them, and they're legal.
They also act as a (mild) muscle relaxant.
Rather like what you take for angina? No thanks!
Ha ha.

Refitman, I found out their use as a muscle relaxant at a later date! Got chatting to a bloke in a club who had some. Thought he seemed a bit friendly...
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U.S. Government Has Long Used Propaganda Against the American People.

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This - if you ignore the epic extra spending and deranged economics - is not bad from Corbyn. Must have had coaching
It's actually very watchable.
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A disproportionate number of Labour members who have joined since the 2015 general election are “high-status city dwellers” pursuing well-paid jobs, according to internal party data.

The party is doing less well when it comes to attracting rural dwellers, elderly people and those struggling to make ends meet, leaked documents show.
We're quite happy with the large number of new members here ... and they are far from those described above.

I was out delivering leaflets last weekend. We were joined by a new member who when I asked why she had joined said she could relate to the new anti-austerity approach and get behind it. She works for the Citizens Advice Bureau. She's been seeing and trying to help alleviate the effects of austerity every day.

I don't mind whether new members are 'high status' (how horrible is that term?) or rural peasants - as long as they want to make the country fairer and better for the majority.
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Have we had this before?

That lovable Lord Freud, eh?

http://www.cpag.org.uk/content/safeguar ... ctitioners" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After the death of a claimant in 2000, the DWP introduced the ‘minimum requirements’. These requirements were designed to ensure that the DWP is ‘not found to be neglectful in [its] duty of care’ towards claimants with a ‘known background of mental illness’.
The safeguards are not being carried over into UC despite Lord Freud’s assurance in January 2015 that they would be.
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Given the series of disasters, miseries, horrors and disappointments that we've already had this year, this piece of scientific discovery was a welcome piece of fascinating news. I'd love to see this theory confirmed, and thousands of lousy SF stories vindicated,

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2016 ... very-pluto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: minor typo
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Huw Irranca-Davies Retweeted
Leighton Andrews ‏@LeightonAndrews 5h5 hours ago
Welsh Conservative Education spokesperson just confirmed in the Assembly Welsh Tories will force Welsh students to pay £9000 tuition fees.
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I am always dubious about classification,I am a homeowner,degree educated pension receiving factory worker,four months ago I was part of not worked in x years benefit receiving household getting letters from the PM extolling our hardwork as part of the long term economic bollox.
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Big cheerer upper. A friend has just sent me this link saying 'How could this not make you smile!?' How indeed.
Wish I could work out how to embed it ... but the URL hasn't got a format I recognise and can deal with. Too many equals signs.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/sGF6bOi1N ... fo=0&rel=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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