Thursday 15th.Jun 2016

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 9:48 pm

The shooter mentioned in this archived article. Seems he did have problems. It'll all be blamed on that. Whitewash by the bucketful coming to a screen near you shortly.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oakwell+H ... 0227735906" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 9:54 pm

My concern is about what's happened today and its direct application to what will happen now, in both the immediate and long term future. This is the wrong day for semantics.

For a government that's managed to stifle and over ride naughties with a pig, the Panama papers, election fraud, expense scandals, and all sorts of nefarious schemes, u-turns and cock-ups, they'll do their 'ignore it, no comment, and it'll soon go away' party piece.
Guaranteed to work every time.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 9:55 pm

HindleA wrote:There isn't a comment facility (as yet)

Good job too I'd say.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 9:57 pm

ohsocynical wrote:The shooter mentioned in this archived article. Seems he did have problems. It'll all be blamed on that. Whitewash by the bucketful coming to a screen near you shortly.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oakwell+H ... 0227735906" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, as of right now we don't know motive. I guess we'll find out at some point although probably not for a while.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 9:57 pm

Hobiejoe wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
Barclay brothers mustn't have liked it! Can't criticise Nigel.........
I've greened two comments in the above article. I wonder who he was referring to?
Second one would be Boris, I imagine.

It was taken down, some changes made and put back up.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:03 pm

Seems like any reference to Boris Johnson removed.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:12 pm

ohsocynical wrote:The shooter mentioned in this archived article. Seems he did have problems. It'll all be blamed on that. Whitewash by the bucketful coming to a screen near you shortly.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oakwell+H ... 0227735906" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It won't wash though Ohso. Not this time. We're too savvy and too well connected these days.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:24 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:The shooter mentioned in this archived article. Seems he did have problems. It'll all be blamed on that. Whitewash by the bucketful coming to a screen near you shortly.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oakwell+H ... 0227735906" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It won't wash though Ohso. Not this time. We're too savvy and too well connected these days.

I hope you're right.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:24 pm

Here we go Ohso - from the Sun

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:25 pm

What a horrible day! Bedtime and try to forget about it with a good book....

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:26 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Here we go Ohso - from the Sun

Yep. Didn't take them long did it.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:28 pm

Bastards!!!!

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:34 pm

Johnson, Hannan and Gove all removed from the Massive article.

Spiked will be outraged.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:42 pm

Hmm

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Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:46 pm

Thankfully Mr Eaton isn't beyond hope

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 28m28 minutes ago
Corbyn rose to the occasion today - dignified tribute to one of his party's own.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:47 pm

The Mail has put "loner" and "history of mental illness" on the front page, obviously.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:47 pm

Whereas the Star

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:55 pm

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I think we started saying this in the pre-nesting days, so that's at least four years ago. Still, pandering to pig-ignorance has long since triumphed over historical awareness, so who on earth takes any satisfaction in being proven sickeningly correct?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 10:56 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hmm

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She's a right one.

Speculating about political motivation is off limits, but speculating about mental health is fine. She says "end of".

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:00 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ma ... at-8212633" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Man arrested after death threat made to Labour MP Ben Bradshaw

The arrest follows an alleged campaign of extreme right-wing racist and homophobic abuse aimed at Mr Bradshaw and his staff

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:11 pm

LabourList ‏@LabourList 6m6 minutes ago
A two minute silence has just taken place at the Tooting count for the memory of Jo Cox

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:12 pm

Lest we forget, and before I explode with rage. This was how the shitrag S*n reported an ACTUAL, DEFINITE RIGHT-WING HATE CRIME in 2011, before the full facts were known:

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:17 pm

NonOxCol wrote:The Mail has put "loner" and "history of mental illness" on the front page, obviously.

Although their website still has this at the top.

And no, we don't know that he had no political views - some people don't actually voice them out loud. We need to wait and see what the police turn up from what was in his house and/or what was being browsed on his PC if he had one.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:22 pm

OK I don't think I'm going to sleep much tonight. At the other end of my town a family have tragically lost a truly amazing Mum and I'm scared of the consequences.

So, when are the by-election results due?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:27 pm

joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 4m4 minutes ago
Turnout in Tooting by-election 42.5%, compared with nearly 70% in 2015 general election. Suggests even Labour hold, majority may be down.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:29 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 4m4 minutes ago
Turnout in Tooting by-election 42.5%, compared with nearly 70% in 2015 general election. Suggests even Labour hold, majority may be down.

eh?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:31 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 4m4 minutes ago
Turnout in Tooting by-election 42.5%, compared with nearly 70% in 2015 general election. Suggests even Labour hold, majority may be down.
eh?

Quite. I think there may be an 'if' missing ...

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:39 pm

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The "infidels" are now trying to back-pedal. That link has gone and there's some mealy mouthed cant that says they "don't support murder". And how they really, really disapprove of the way "the left" is "politicising" Jo Cox's death. Whether this is on their own initiative or because Facebook was making threatening noises following complaints, who can say.

Their claims of not supporting violence are more than a bit undermined by their extensive and very enthusiastic support for violence on the streets of France. Including pictures of their fellow travellers rather illegally letting off flares in the street. Which the police might just find very interesting, assuming they don't stroll round Facebook as part of their normal beat and haven't seen them already.

England's finest football hooligans. Not just hypocrites, but very, very thick hypocrites.

BF, on the other hand, has a hand-wringing statement from the leader, which I won't bore you with other than to say he does his best to tell the mob not to say or do anything embarrasing. Below which the finest specimens of aryan manhood let theirnleader down by arguing out at great mis-spelt length whether Jo Cox was killed by the "Remain" campaign so they can call off the referendum or whether the murderer was really a Muslim who's being protected by the police/NWO/Spectre/Fu Manchu...

Business as usual from the far right then. The leaders point the way, trying to not quite cross the line, then say it's nothing at all to do with them what their followers do.

Murdoch, Dacre, Rothermere, Cameron, Crosby and Farage truly deserve to spend a very long time in one of Dante's nastier circles of hell for what they've done to this country. Not only does Cameron promise a referendum, he lets the far right turn it into what they've wanted since 1948. A chance to build a head of steam for "send them all back where they came from."

And a special mention for David Blunkett. A once upon a time left-winger and decent human being who opened the door for all of this with his attacks on "bogus asylum seekers" nearly 20 years ago. And the succession of New Labour Home Secretaries who carried on where he left off.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Thu 16 Jun, 2016 11:42 pm

11.35: That’s quite a high turnout for a by-election in poor weather, and it is sounding like positive news for Labour – although nothing can be confirmed concretely at this point.

We’re expecting to get a bit more information around midnight.

11.25: Turnout just confirmed: 42.5 per cent. That’s down from 69.7 per cent last year.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:02 am

David Maddox Retweeted
Grant Shapps ‏@grantshapps 1h1 hour ago
I hope that in the sad by-election to follow, Jo Cox's constituency is left uncontested as a tribute to Jo's extraordinary public service

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:13 am

Tooting result expected between half 12 and quarter to one

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:22 am

rebeccariots2 wrote:
David Maddox Retweeted
Grant Shapps ‏@grantshapps 1h1 hour ago
I hope that in the sad by-election to follow, Jo Cox's constituency is left uncontested as a tribute to Jo's extraordinary public service

Is there precedent for this?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:25 am

No, both Ian Gow's and Anthony Berry's seats were fully contested after their murders and I expect the same to be the case this time. Indeed, that should be the case IMO.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:25 am

12.18: Result should be in the next half hour. Looking likely to be a decisive victory for Labour’s Rosena Allin-Khan.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:27 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
David Maddox Retweeted
Grant Shapps ‏@grantshapps 1h1 hour ago
I hope that in the sad by-election to follow, Jo Cox's constituency is left uncontested as a tribute to Jo's extraordinary public service
Is there precedent for this?

Don't know about that, but the cynic in me is rather wondering what the angle is.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:32 am

Hobiejoe wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
Is there precedent for this?
Don't know about that, but the cynic in me is rather wondering what the angle is.

I was certainly surprised by it.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:34 am

joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 3m3 minutes ago
Laboir sources claiming victory in Tooting by-election with maj as high as 6,000 over Tories. That would be twice Sadiq Khan's 2,824 maj.

He's not having a good night for spelling and grammar ... but if that turns out to be correct it's a very good result. How sad the circumstances though.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:46 am

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote: Is there precedent for this?
Don't know about that, but the cynic in me is rather wondering what the angle is.
I was certainly surprised by it.

Avoiding an absolute shellacking in the by-election?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 12:54 am

Discrepancy delay,now after 1

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 1:14 am

A minutes silence in the Canadian Parliament.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 1:25 am

Tooting, result:
LAB: 55.9% (+8.7)
CON: 36.1% (-5.8)
GRN: 2.6% (-1.5)
LDEM: 2.6% (-1.4)
UKIP: 1.6% (-1.3)

See below

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 1:26 am

Here you go,

01.22: LABOUR HOLD. Dr Rosena Allin-Khan wins with a majority of 6,157.

Here are the results we’ve managed to get so far: Labour17,894; Tory 11,537; Green 830; UKIP 507.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 1:26 am

Goodnight Hobiejoe,and anybody else that is still about.Let love reign.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 1:36 am

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Labour Press
Statement from Dr Rosena Allin-Khan

Following the result of the Tooting by-election, Dr Rosena Allin-Khan, said:

“Given the horrific events of today and the shocking death of Jo Cox, I do not intend to make a speech. Instead, I would like to make a short statement.

“First of all, I would like to give my profound thanks to the people of Tooting for electing me as their MP.

“But my thoughts and prayers are with Jo’s husband and her children. She was a proud and passionate campaigner who will be desperately missed.

“Jo’s death reminds us that our democracy is precious but fragile – we must never forget to cherish it. Thousands of people voted today and we are all here in recognition of our democratic values.

“I would like to thank the police for all the hard work they have done today, not just here but across the country.

“I would like to thank the returning officer and staff for their efficient and smooth running of this by-election, and I would also like to thank my agent and his campaign staff.

“I would like to thank the other candidates for the respectful way in which this by-election has been fought.

“And lastly, I would like to thank my family and friends for their love and support.

“Thank you very much.”

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 17 Jun, 2016 1:43 am

Nice result to end a troubling day.

Good night all, and may tomorrow bring better things.