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NonOxCol wrote:Yvette Cooper has received a tweet threatening to kill her kids and grandkids.

Some of the replies sent to her don't exactly warm the heart or inspire confidence in the British electorate.

nickyinnorfolk wrote:Interactive map detailing how UK regions plan to vote in the Referendum.
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Yahyah's stamping ground is very Europhile! Mine is mixed (leaning towards Eurosceptic) which isn't surprising. The most Eurosceptic area is Cumbria.

Johnson, with Penny Mordaunt, was in Norfolk last Thursday. He was in Norwich when the news came through about Jo Cox - they cancelled the rest of their schedule (they were due to visit Ipswich). Norwich was giving them short shrift and the City Council had refused to let them set up a stage in the city centre. Previous to that they'd been in Cromer where they'd had a warmer welcome, finding plenty of people (mostly pensioners) keen to complain about immigrants. When a reporter from a local paper asked one of them what he meant, he admitted there were virtually no immigrants in Cromer but it was a problem in Great Yarmouth (35 miles away)!

yahyah wrote:Morning.

Did anyone watch the BBC debate last night ?
It seemed like X Factor meets politics. Lots of roaring from the crowd, seemed very US style unfortunately.

Didn't watch much as a result of the presentation style. But Sadiq, Frances were very good.
As was Ruth Davidson. A real hard hitter, what a shame she's a Tory.

Bozo, well he was his usual self. The audience seemed very partial to, and cheered loudly for, a charlatan with a daft hairdo waffling about 'Project Fear'.

If I'm not around much in the next few days it won't be because I've taken umbrage at anyone, but am in the prodrome stage of a basilar migraine attack. I'm upping the prophylaxis medication, am hoping to abort the worst of it but may not be able to.
It's the stress of the referendum I'm sure, as I haven't had a bad attack recently since on some new blood pressure medication.
On the positive side, the strange visual effects are like an acid trip if you can relax and go with them.
Trippin' man ...

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.

Not long to go now. I'm still hoping for good weather and a great turnout. Oh, and a phyric victory for Cameron. His referendum, his harvest.

BTW I'm thinking Osborne, Hunt, May have been relatively quiet recently.

The cruel trick that means however you vote on the EU, we’re all screwed

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/21/the- ... sh-public/

yahyah wrote:If I'm not around much in the next few days it won't be because I've taken umbrage at anyone, but am in the prodrome stage of a basilar migraine attack. I'm upping the prophylaxis medication, am hoping to abort the worst of it but may not be able to.
It's the stress of the referendum I'm sure, as I haven't had a bad attack recently since on some new blood pressure medication.
On the positive side, the strange visual effects are like an acid trip if you can relax and go with them.
Trippin' man ...

The EU Commission is actually a very efficient administration

With only about 33000 civil servants, the European Commission prepares, examines, coordinates and implements policy for over 500 million European citizens. That is in fact indeed, a very efficient administration.

According to the EU Commission’s HR key figures card, on January 2014 the European Commission had about 33039 civil servants. Only about 21500 of those civil servants work in Brussels, the other 12000 work in other European and non-European countries. That might sound like a lot, but in comparison it is a VERY efficient civil service. The British Revenue and Customs administration alone has 80000 civil servants. The US federal government employs 1,8 million people. And if we only look at the civil servants on the federal level of the German administration, this already relatively small administration employs about 315.000 federal ‘beamter’.

yahyah wrote:Morning.

Did anyone watch the BBC debate last night ?
It seemed like X Factor meets politics. Lots of roaring from the crowd, seemed very US style unfortunately.

Didn't watch much as a result of the presentation style. But Sadiq, Frances were very good.
As was Ruth Davidson. A real hard hitter, what a shame she's a Tory.

Bozo, well he was his usual self. The audience seemed very partial to, and cheered loudly for, a charlatan with a daft hairdo waffling about 'Project Fear'.

If I'm not around much in the next few days it won't be because I've taken umbrage at anyone, but am in the prodrome stage of a basilar migraine attack. I'm upping the prophylaxis medication, am hoping to abort the worst of it but may not be able to.
It's the stress of the referendum I'm sure, as I haven't had a bad attack recently since on some new blood pressure medication.
On the positive side, the strange visual effects are like an acid trip if you can relax and go with them.
Trippin' man ...

This column is safe to read. It contains no “expertise” *hawk; spit*. I have also tried to keep any so-called “facts” to a bare minimum. What follows is pure, distilled common sense (although this is, of course, a matter of opinion).

That’s the good news; now here’s the bad: I have rather a soft spot for experts. I admire their devotion to their subjects. I envy their ability to focus on niche specialisms for years at a time. I kind of like the way they, you know, know stuff.

So, for me, Michael Gove’s assertion that “people in this country have had enough of experts” was, amid a strong field of contenders, one of the most depressing moments in the interminable European Union referendum campaign. In recent days, Steve Hilton, David Cameron’s former director of strategy, has also been getting in on the nerd-bashing.

HindleA wrote:Today those politicians talking about a breaking point in front of pictures of refugees are given large amounts of air time by the broadcast media. Those pretending we are about to be swamped by Turkish migrants are cheered on by nearly all of the tabloid press. Populist politicians are about to lead once proud centre right parties on both sides of the Atlantic. And one brave Yorkshire politician that argued against all this was shot dead in the street.

We cannot continue to let this pass. It will not stop with Brexit. When Brexit fails to improve our public services or our economy there will be other scapegoats. Maybe migrants already here, or nasty foreigners who failed to give the beneficial trade deals the Leave campaign pretend we will get. In the US right now it is already happening, and this Brexit campaign shows that the UK has no inbuilt immunity to it. This is how it goes, as it has gone in the past.

We cannot let this pass.

RogerOThornhill wrote:If Remain win (and maybe even if they don't) Gove is finished as a politician. Unbelievable.

SpinningHugo wrote:Vote Remain tomorrow please

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SpinningHugo wrote:Vote Remain tomorrow please

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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

I'm thoroughly sick of hearing about "unelected Brussels bureaucrats" (also known as civil servants). Why doesn't someone point out that the wheels here are kept turning by civil servants - who are also "unelected" and largely not household names. It's the MEPs and MPs who are elected and if nobody knows who they are (and many people in this country don't even know who the members of the British cabinet are, let alone backbench MPs) then it's mostly because they're not sufficiently interested.

ohsocynical wrote:I know many of those voting Leave won't see it, but Gove is coming out with some real rubbish.
Surely if Leave had genuine reasons and arguments he'd be using them. Not making it up as he goes along?

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The latest YouGov survey, taken after last night's televised debate, gives remain a one point lead.

letsskiptotheleft wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The latest YouGov survey, taken after last night's televised debate, gives remain a one point lead.

Hope it proves to be a bit more conclusive than that, still a remain is a remain however small.

There should also be an understanding that the result is final for at least a generation.

I am to be honest, after the Scottish vote, a dismal GE result and EU vote referendumded out.

letsskiptotheleft wrote:

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The latest YouGov survey, taken after last night's televised debate, gives remain a one point lead.

Hope it proves to be a bit more conclusive than that, still a remain is a remain however small.

There should also be an understanding that the result is final for at least a generation.

I am to be honest, after the Scottish vote, a dismal GE result and EU vote referendumded out.

StephenDolan wrote:I didn't think Digger could go up any further in my estimations after seeing him play and hearing him eloquently speaking on matters relating to football (both on the field and off), most recently via The Anfield Wrap. I was wrong. Up a notch he goes.

John Barnes: Gove says I’ll be voting leave. He’s wrong – and here’s why

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100 days after Brexit... and this is what Britain looks like
David Cameron has resigned and Boris is in Number 10. It’s the day after the Tory party conference and the troubled Prime Minister has a cocktail of economic and social issues in his in-tray (and, yes, okay, it's 105 days)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/105-d ... 94056.html