Friday 24th June 2016

Post by **refitman** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:11 am

Morning all. Not what I wanted to wake up to.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:14 am

Can I put myself through listening to Today?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:20 am

Cameron statement at 8AM.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:20 am

Good-morning, everyone.

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:21 am

refitman wrote:Morning all. Not what I wanted to wake up to.

Quite.
I think Thursday's thread is still live, unlike my hope for the future.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:23 am

Oh god

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:24 am

Bunch of schoolboys have broken it all

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:24 am

Why the hell have the Farage crowd got Union Jacks - don't they understand what they've just done?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:25 am

I've just woken my husband taken him breakfast and told him the news.
He's shocked. He said he didn't think there would be that many gullible people.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:27 am

Good morfternoon.

I'll repeat this post (and add a bit) which I wrote at the fag-end of yesterday's thread:

I don't blame Jeremy Corbyn for this mess. That blame I reserve for David Cameron. But I can't say that Jeremy Corbyn impressed me. Yes, he did articulate that the EU isn't perfect and I agreed with him on that - but he made too little (enthusiasm-wise) of the good parts.

He presented the EU as a curate's egg when he should have presented it as a Fabergé egg still in the process of the making. Missing a few jewels, maybe, but still a thing of beauty and worth.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:30 am

Hope OhSo's ok.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:32 am

Don't bother with Radio 4 Stephen.
I heard a female Tory MP saying we had 'liberated' our country.

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:34 am

Farage backtracking on £350 million a week for NHS. Who'd have thunk it?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:36 am

danesclose wrote:Farage backtracking on £350 million a week for NHS. Who'd have thunk it?

And so it begins.

Anushka Asthana
‏@GuardianAnushka

Nigel Farage says no we won't be able to spend £350m to the NHS... That was a mistake for Vote Leave to say that, he says.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:38 am

Good moaning every one.

Eventually got 4 hours sleep last night. Eyelid props already in use.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:39 am

danesclose wrote:Farage backtracking on £350 million a week for NHS. Who'd have thunk it?

And so it begins.

'We couldn't see the books', 'We didn't know there would be another recession', 'There's no money tree'

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:40 am

I didn't see your post OhSo, snap with the 'and so it begins'

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:42 am

Nigel Farage on BBC TV speaking of having "won an election".

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:43 am

Christ, they really are arseholes.

Check out this poster's 7.34am comment. Nasty trolling. Read it through to the end.

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edited to add...think it's been modded now.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:44 am

PirateOfMensPants
‏@Pyewackett333

Apparently Boris Johnson's having a kip. Wake up you fuckwit and deal with this shit!!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:47 am

yahyah wrote:I didn't see your post OhSo, snap with the 'and so it begins'

I have a horrible feeling I'm going to sound like an Old Testament prophet today.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:49 am

PF I understand what you're saying but Labour were in a very difficult place. Never forget how Cameron shafted them the day after the Indy Ref.

This is Cameron's mess. End of.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:50 am

I was a JSA claimant ‏@imajsaclaimant 5h5 hours ago

The £ has dropped by 10 cents. It is being compared to Black Wednesday in 1992... it's not even 2.30am! #bbcreferendum

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:51 am

ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:I didn't see your post OhSo, snap with the 'and so it begins'
I have a horrible feeling I'm going to sound like an Old Testament prophet today.

Any particular one?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:53 am

Ross Hawkins ramping up the bad news for Labour stuff. Fury and anger amongst the usual suspects.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:53 am

The usual suspects who leaked the Labour MPs script are angry that it contains 'lies'.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:54 am

Philip Hammond has been sent out to deal with the situation (and not making too bad a fist of it under the circs). Theresa May next up?

Where's our leader?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:55 am

Packing ? Pointing at fish ?

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:56 am

The usual gutless anonymous sources.

Laura calling Cameron humiliated. Blimey.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:56 am

John Clarke ‏@JohnClarke1960 4m4 minutes ago

Interesting fact: The country has lost MORE money in the hours since the OUT result than it could ever save from not paying into the EU.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 7:59 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
yahyah wrote:I didn't see your post OhSo, snap with the 'and so it begins'
I have a horrible feeling I'm going to sound like an Old Testament prophet today.
Any particular one?

Take your pick.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:00 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:PF I understand what you're saying but Labour were in a very difficult place. Never forget how Cameron shafted them the day after the Indy Ref.

This is Cameron's mess. End of.

Feel like quoting this 1,000 times.

This should go down with Suez and the Bay of Pigs as one of the most spectacular, arrogant miscalculations in history by a Western politician. It deserves to take up about three quarters of his political obituary. He should forever be synonymous with every consequence of this mind-bogglingly fuckwitted outcome.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:00 am

EU leaders are going to meet in Brussels next week without the UK present to decide their stance for the withdrawal negotiations, Sky’s Faisal Islam reports.

Faisal Islam ✔ @faisalislam
Informal meeting of EU 27 next week without PM in the room to decide common negotiating position vs UK on exit negotiations
7:50 AM - 24 Jun 2016

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:01 am

ohsocynical wrote:John Clarke ‏@JohnClarke1960 4m4 minutes ago

Interesting fact: The country has lost MORE money in the hours since the OUT result than it could ever save from not paying into the EU.

Much as I like the sound of that, propaganda wise, do we actually lose the money in the true sense of the word.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:02 am

NonOxCol wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:PF I understand what you're saying but Labour were in a very difficult place. Never forget how Cameron shafted them the day after the Indy Ref.

This is Cameron's mess. End of.
Feel like quoting this 1,000 times.

This should go down with Suez and the Bay of Pigs as one of the most spectacular, arrogant miscalculations in history by a Western politician. It deserves to take up about three quarters of his political obituary. He should forever be synonymous with every consequence of this mind-bogglingly fuckwitted outcome.

Oh, yes. I agree with every word. But I stand by my criticism of Jeremy Corbyn.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:02 am

FFS. The economy's in melt down, and those fucking stupid Labour rebels are still stirring it.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:02 am

Britain has voted by a substantial margin to leave the European Union.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... d-analysis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UK votes to LEAVE the EU
EU Referendum results, counting complete

Leave
51.9%

Remain
48.1%
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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:04 am

Anyway, I found something to cheer me up from one of my favourite human beings in Britain:

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He started his show at 7am with a song by the Charlatans, and coughed meaningfully for about 15 seconds after stating the name of the band...

Actually, the leftish BBC enclave that is 6 Music does sound very subdued in general.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:08 am

yahyah wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:John Clarke ‏@JohnClarke1960 4m4 minutes ago

Interesting fact: The country has lost MORE money in the hours since the OUT result than it could ever save from not paying into the EU.

Much as I like the sound of that, propaganda wise, do we actually lose the money in the true sense of the word.

Just before I went to bed it had started to plunge. They said that meant about 40% of the value of pensions. I'm rotten at economics so can only repeat parrot fashion.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:10 am

NonOxCol wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:PF I understand what you're saying but Labour were in a very difficult place. Never forget how Cameron shafted them the day after the Indy Ref.

This is Cameron's mess. End of.
Feel like quoting this 1,000 times.

This should go down with Suez and the Bay of Pigs as one of the most spectacular, arrogant miscalculations in history by a Western politician. It deserves to take up about three quarters of his political obituary. He should forever be synonymous with every consequence of this mind-bogglingly fuckwitted outcome.

Yep.

he thought he'd be good at it

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:12 am

So Labour moving to remove Corbyn and Salmond moving for a referendum within two years.
Well done UK. I mean England and Wales.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:13 am

sterling still falling

Maeght · Post by **Maeght** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:13 am

I think I am going to have to stop listening/watching any sort of news programmes because if I hear Nigel Farage one more time I am going to be physically sick.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:13 am

Joel Hills ‏@ITVJoel 4m4 minutes ago

Here they come. Biggest fallers banks (Barclays -30% RBS -35% Lloyds -29%) and construction companies (Redrow -76%)

TobyLatimer · Post by **TobyLatimer** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:14 am

ITV reporting that Cameron to resign

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:15 am

2m ago 08:10
Rowena Mason

Rowena Mason

An orchestrated move against Jeremy Corbyn appears to be underway as Labour’s shadow cabinet prepares to convene this morning. There are rumours of some of his MPs preparing to sign a motion of no confidence in him and some are calling for him to resign - anonymously at this stage.

(Politics Live, Guardian)

This is a bad move, especially at this time. Focus on the Government and David Cameron.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:15 am

Just learned that my boss (54, paper millionaire, respected hitherto) voted Leave because "he didn't want to support an undemocratic organisation".

So instead you voted for this:

Nigel Farage:
"We've done it without a bullet being fired".

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God the parallels with incipient fascism are terrifying.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:16 am

TobyLatimer wrote:ITV reporting that Cameron to resign

Tim Roache GMB ‏@Tim_Roache 2h2 hours ago Great Preston, England

What a man Cameron is. Gambles the whole future of the UK and our kids for short term gain..and lost the lot. Let that be his epitaph #GMB

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:16 am

Suggestion\rumour that David Cameron is going to resign (LK BBC)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 8:17 am

Maeght wrote:I think I am going to have to stop listening/watching any sort of news programmes because if I hear Nigel Farage one more time I am going to be physically sick.

Has anyone seen the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, David Cameron? Or are we just going to have to listen to Farage some more? This here country is split more or less right down the middle. Who's in charge?