Yes,Anatoly,100%.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The pearl clutching in some quarters because McDonnell used a naughty word is even more risible than usual.
(and does it come from some of the same people who cheered on Jess Phillips when she told Diane Abbott to "f*** off"? Yes, yes it does)
Besides, on this J McD is absolutely correct isn't he
Well, they stayed seated with one exception: Andy Burnham.AnatolyKasparov wrote:"Some" LibDems?? There's only eight of them to start withJonnyT1234 wrote:PLB:
Things remain the same.He gets a round of applause. Tory MPs give him a standing ovation. Opposition MPs are applauding too, but they have not got to their feet (apart from some Lib Dems).
citizenJA wrote:It's not a wise choice of words at this time.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The pearl clutching in some quarters because McDonnell used a naughty word is even more risible than usual.
(and does it come from some of the same people who cheered on Jess Phillips when she told Diane Abbott to "f*** off"? Yes, yes it does)
Besides, on this J McD is absolutely correct isn't he
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Parliamentary expenses scandal
Kaufman was involved in the 2009 expenses scandal, where a number of British MPs made excessive expense claims, misusing their permitted allowances and expense accounts.
Kaufman was found to have claimed £115,109 in additional costs allowances on his London flat between 2001 and 2008, and submitted a claim for three months' expenses totalling £14,301.60 in June 2006, which included £8,865 for a 40-inch LCD television and £1,461.83 for a luxury rug imported from New York City (plus £389.91 in customs expenses), which violated regulations forbidding claims for luxury furnishings. He blamed his self-diagnosed obsessive compulsive disorder for his claims, and also said that his condition led him to purchase a pair of Waterford Crystal grapefruit bowls on his parliamentary expenses.[11] Between 2005 and 2007, Kaufman claimed £28,834 for home improvements. He was subsequently summoned to the Parliamentary Fees Office to explain these claims, and in the end was paid £15,329. He also claimed £1,262 for a gas bill that was £1,055 in credit. His claims for food between 2004 and June 2008 were £19,200, close to the maximum allowed. He was also challenged over regular claims for "odd jobs", which he submitted without receipts at a rate of £245 per month, then £5 below the limit for unreceipted expenses, to which he replied by asking why these expenses were being queried.[12] (Wikipedia)
HOW much for a tv?I am staggered.PorFavor wrote:Gerald Kaufman. Not one of my favourites.
Parliamentary expenses scandal
Kaufman was involved in the 2009 expenses scandal, where a number of British MPs made excessive expense claims, misusing their permitted allowances and expense accounts.
Kaufman was found to have claimed £115,109 in additional costs allowances on his London flat between 2001 and 2008, and submitted a claim for three months' expenses totalling £14,301.60 in June 2006, which included £8,865 for a 40-inch LCD television and £1,461.83 for a luxury rug imported from New York City (plus £389.91 in customs expenses), which violated regulations forbidding claims for luxury furnishings. He blamed his self-diagnosed obsessive compulsive disorder for his claims, and also said that his condition led him to purchase a pair of Waterford Crystal grapefruit bowls on his parliamentary expenses.[11] Between 2005 and 2007, Kaufman claimed £28,834 for home improvements. He was subsequently summoned to the Parliamentary Fees Office to explain these claims, and in the end was paid £15,329. He also claimed £1,262 for a gas bill that was £1,055 in credit. His claims for food between 2004 and June 2008 were £19,200, close to the maximum allowed. He was also challenged over regular claims for "odd jobs", which he submitted without receipts at a rate of £245 per month, then £5 below the limit for unreceipted expenses, to which he replied by asking why these expenses were being queried.[12] (Wikipedia)
Heh, is that *really* true?? Another "your most esteemed highness" (or whatever it was) moment from him there if soSpinningHugo wrote: Well, they stayed seated with one exception: Andy Burnham.
YepAnatolyKasparov wrote:Heh, is that *really* true?? Another "your most esteemed highness" (or whatever it was) moment from him there if soSpinningHugo wrote: Well, they stayed seated with one exception: Andy Burnham.
(and I like the guy, as you know)
ephemerid wrote:I have tried that - but then you lose the thread a bit, plus replies often have the original post in them.HindleA wrote:Did you see extankie's suggestion of friend/foe thing where you can choose which posts you can s
But thank you, and extankie, for the reminder.
Maybe not, but lets get it into perspective. Its not a brick through the window or anything like that.citizenJA wrote:It's not a wise choice of words at this time.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The pearl clutching in some quarters because McDonnell used a naughty word is even more risible than usual.
(and does it come from some of the same people who cheered on Jess Phillips when she told Diane Abbott to "f*** off"? Yes, yes it does)
Besides, on this J McD is absolutely correct isn't he
Well quite.Morgan used her speech to announce the launch of a review of the local authority role in schools and children’s social care, which will be chaired by former Hackney children’s services boss Alan Wood.
But John Peck, who chairs Nottinghamshire County Council’s children and young people committee told Morgan that east midlands schools commissioner Jennifer Bexon-Smith had “refused to meet” with his board and had written to him asking him not to meet with academy leaders.
“On the one hand, Sir Michael Wilshaw, soon not to be the head of Ofsted, berates local authorities for results and standards, and on the other hand, our RSC wrote to me and told me I should not be having my annual meeting with headteachers of academy schools that fell below floor targets,” he said.
“So there are mixed messages between the two departments. When the GCSE results come out every year, who is it that local media want to come and talk to? It’s me, not the regional schools commissioner. I think there is some work to be done between Ofsted and your department and where we fit into that.”
As swearing now seems ok.RogerOThornhill wrote:Well, if may really wants to Remain...
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Grayling has asked for Secretary of State for Brexit.
Because she is basically rather dense?minch wrote:Why does Hodge just want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote?
Have just tried this ,now await a post from you know who.Which I won't see,hopefully.extankie wrote:ephemerid wrote:I have tried that - but then you lose the thread a bit, plus replies often have the original post in them.HindleA wrote:Did you see extankie's suggestion of friend/foe thing where you can choose which posts you can s
But thank you, and extankie, for the reminder.
Yay! I helped a bit....
That's what I thought - it was also mentioned on Newsnight last night (I cannot remember by who) that only one person should challenge. Is that why the Cons have to have more than one ballot as they cannot cope with such a tricky method of voting.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Because she is basically rather dense?minch wrote:Why does Hodge want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote?
I suppose the "hope" is that he FUBARs it all up so much that Brexit never actually happens?SpinningHugo wrote:As swearing now seems ok.RogerOThornhill wrote:Well, if may really wants to Remain...
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Grayling has asked for Secretary of State for Brexit.
We are all fucked if the moronic incompetent Grayling gets that job.
I guess the markets are thinking that it might never happen as the pound is (very slowly) going upAnatolyKasparov wrote:I suppose the "hope" is that he FUBARs it all up so much that Brexit never actually happens?SpinningHugo wrote:As swearing now seems ok.RogerOThornhill wrote:Well, if may really wants to Remain...
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Grayling has asked for Secretary of State for Brexit.
We are all fucked if the moronic incompetent Grayling gets that job.
Seems it does show the offending post if it`s quoted.........sorry, not as good as I first thought:(Rebecca wrote:Have just tried this ,now await a post from you know who.Which I won't see,hopefully.extankie wrote:ephemerid wrote: I have tried that - but then you lose the thread a bit, plus replies often have the original post in them.
But thank you, and extankie, for the reminder.
Yay! I helped a bit....
So if JC loses then there's a clear leader,minch wrote:Why does Hodge want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote?
edited to remove too many 'just's
I think the South Coast Resistance (who are mainly Portsmouth hooligans) probably are part of the South East Alliance, who have "firms" from a number of football clubs as well as organisations such as Kent Infidels. These generally consist of 15-20 racist scumbags who won't fight unless they outnumber the opposition at least 2-1RobertSnozers wrote:Superb news! Good on your son.danesclose wrote:Hi all,
As I said last week I had to take a few days away to collect my lads from Uni (both up north, one in Lancashire, one in God's own county).
Also had to support my eldest who was due in court. For the avoidance of any doubt, in general I am against violence. However my eldest lad, of whom I am immensely proud, is active in fighting the Fascists who periodically crawl out from under a stone & try to intimidate people, principally from different ethnic backgrounds.
He was arrested at Dover earlier in the year for hammering the crap out of a member of the South East Alliance who was also a Britain First member & charged with affray. For those who don't know them, the South East Alliance is basically a bunch of football hooligans from South Coast towns who put aside their differences to unite against migrants, specifically Islamic. Ironically, the leader of the South East Alliance is actually a Cypriot immigrant. Amongst the other "gangs" they associate with are the North West Infidels, the ones who posted that disgusting facebook message when Jo Cox was killed.
After all the worry, we got a phone call this morning from my son's barrister, saying that the police weren't proceeding with the case and he was free to go!
So, did I miss anything while I was away?
Are the South East Alliance related to the South Coast Resistance?
ta-da!adam wrote:Having allowed labour to crucify themselves in scotland fighting against independence, I am sure that Cameron's and Crosby's next plan is to allow them to do the same across those 'purple in second place' areas on the map in the coming EU referendum.
On current form I am quite sure that the referendum will be lost and that we'll be leaving, (go on, tell me what the polls say, I fucking dare you) and that this will be followed by a second but this time successful indieref in Scotland. The tories will divide in two on europe but will come back together afterwards. Cameron's hope is that the referendum will be the bedrock for UKIPs capture of 'old' working class labour.
So I would very very strongly argue that labour should have nothing to do with Cameron's albatross. Don't get involved, don't campaign, don't take part. It's his mess. If Labour fight UKIP for Cameron on the referendum then 2020 in the urban north and midlands will be Scotland.
I'm afraid you've been thwarted (courtesy of RobertSnozers).minch wrote:Why does Hodge want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote?
edited to remove too many 'just's
A taxi full was quite a good turn out TBF.RobertSnozers wrote: They came to Southampton a few weeks ago. Hundreds, if not thousands of demonstrators turned up to tell them to get lost. We chased them around the city for a couple of hours, preventing them from dishing out hate literature, and eventually cornered them at the railway station. The police arranged a taxi for them. Taxi, singular. I don't reckon there can have been more than half a dozen.
And then I read on -In more reshuffle speculation, the Telegraph’s Christopher Hope says George Osborne will be replaced as chancellor and will lead the government. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
One of Andrew Sparrow's more health-damaging typos.Christopher Hope
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3:09 PM - 13 Jul 2016
over here they get an MBE !SpinningHugo wrote:And if you thought UK politics was bad
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N.B. This is based solely on the photo in that tweet so I could be wrong:SpinningHugo wrote:YepAnatolyKasparov wrote:Heh, is that *really* true?? Another "your most esteemed highness" (or whatever it was) moment from him there if soSpinningHugo wrote: Well, they stayed seated with one exception: Andy Burnham.
(and I like the guy, as you know)
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He is just useless at politics, IMO.
It's more likely that, should he not win the first round outright, he may still get close to 50% while the other candidates would see the remaining 50%+ split many, many ways. It'd make it look as though Corbyn was trouncing everyone, despite not doing enough to win outright. So (even more) bad PR for the PLP, basically.RobertSnozers wrote:I suspect because even a few second choices for Corbyn from whoever gets knocked out first might be enough to get him over the line.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Because she is basically rather dense?minch wrote:Why does Hodge just want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote?
... "The pompous knob whose clothes sense could give one of my patients a cardiac arrest?" would have been my sorely wanted to say response.ephemerid wrote:He was horrified that I wouldn't do as he said, and intoned "Do you know who I am?".
If no one gets 50% then the last place votes are distributed till someone does. For the deputy leader it took a few goes. Was there bad PR after the deputy leader result?JonnyT1234 wrote:It's more likely that, should he not win the first round outright, he may still get close to 50% while the other candidates would see the remaining 50%+ split many, many ways. It'd make it look as though Corbyn was trouncing everyone, despite not doing enough to win outright. So (even more) bad PR for the PLP, basically.RobertSnozers wrote:I suspect because even a few second choices for Corbyn from whoever gets knocked out first might be enough to get him over the line.AnatolyKasparov wrote: Because she is basically rather dense?
Nah, watch the end of the videoJonnyT1234 wrote:N.B. This is based solely on the photo in that tweet so I could be wrong:SpinningHugo wrote:YepAnatolyKasparov wrote: Heh, is that *really* true?? Another "your most esteemed highness" (or whatever it was) moment from him there if so
(and I like the guy, as you know)
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He is just useless at politics, IMO.
It looks to me that he was just one of the MPs already stood up around the speaker's chair because there was no seating available (the house is likely to have been full for a final PMQs, no? And there's not enough seating for all the MPs in our ridiculous fricking parliament). If he's stood up from the front bench, where's the gap showing where he was sitting?
In other words, this is possibly just someone shit stirring.
Edit: apostronot.
I think it's fair to say that the circumstances here are somewhat different to the ones for the deputy several months ago.minch wrote:If no one gets 50% then the last place votes are distributed till someone does. For the deputy leader it took a few goes. Was there bad PR after the deputy leader result?
Good grief no spoilt votesJonnyT1234 wrote:I think it's fair to say that the circumstances here are somewhat different to the ones for the deputy several months ago.minch wrote:If no one gets 50% then the last place votes are distributed till someone does. For the deputy leader it took a few goes. Was there bad PR after the deputy leader result?
Imagine:
Corbyn 49%
Smith 21%
Eagle 10%
Watson 10%
Burnham 8% (poor Andy, sniff)
Kendall 2%
Cooper 0%
The potential for something like that really isn't going to look good for the PLP - unity? What unity?
At 5/1minch wrote:Look who is the Favourite for the next PM after May
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