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yahyah wrote:Morning Dan.

Was wondering if it would be worth starting two sticky threads, one for Corbyn and one for Smith where we just post straight information of their policies and campaign statements, polling results for the leadership etc.

Maybe no responses allowed there, other than to post information or links, so the sort of 'you are wrong, I'm right' that happens here doesn't get in the way of having a go-to info place to help form a view on who to vote for.


*Please note: My being unable to feel enthusiastic about either candidate, and wanting to have a non-spun resource to help make the decision, does not mean this is an anti-Corbyn or pro-Smith post.

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... isis-grows


Home ownership in England at lowest level in 30 years as housing crisis grows
Calls for government to build more homes as growing gap between earnings and house prices sees ownership fall across the country and people forced to rent

yahyah wrote:Nathan Gill has been told by the Ukip executive council that he can't be both a member of the Welsh Assembly and an MEP. He's threatened with having the party whip removed if he continues ''double-jobbing''.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/polit ... k-11690212" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and Wales had more rainfall yesterday than the whole of July, which was not a dry month.
Floods in the south. Hope LetsSkip is not affected.

yahyah wrote:Morning Dan.

Was wondering if it would be worth starting two sticky threads, one for Corbyn and one for Smith where we just post straight information of their policies and campaign statements, polling results for the leadership etc.

Maybe no responses allowed there, other than to post information or links, so the sort of 'you are wrong, I'm right' that happens here doesn't get in the way of having a go-to info place to help form a view on who to vote for.


*Please note: My being unable to feel enthusiastic about either candidate, and wanting to have a non-spun resource to help make the decision, does not mean this is an anti-Corbyn or pro-Smith post.

The competency of the British government to negotiate high-value complex commercial agreements on important matters at speed and under media pressure against unsentimental counter-parties can be summed up in three letters: PFI. The deals are disasters waiting to happen.

Around 40,000 people have had their applications to vote in the Labour leadership election rejected.

It is understood that tens of thousands of people have had their £25 applications to become registered supporters thrown out because they previously supported a rival party candidate, were not on the electoral register or because their payments bounced.

People who are recognised to have made racist, sexist or anti-Semitic remarks are automatically cleared off the list using Labour's central database.

Foreign capital is sometimes very useful to the UK economy — in the car industry a combination of foreign capital investment and better management have turned the industry around.

But it also comes with costs — costs in terms of selling successful British companies, large parts of the housing market leaving British hands and potentially pressure on our foreign policy. It’s hard to “take back control” when you are as reliant on foreign money as you’ve ever been.

adam wrote:From the Telegraph

Labour leadership election: 40,000 registered supporters rejected

Around 40,000 people have had their applications to vote in the Labour leadership election rejected.

It is understood that tens of thousands of people have had their £25 applications to become registered supporters thrown out because they previously supported a rival party candidate, were not on the electoral register or because their payments bounced.

People who are recognised to have made racist, sexist or anti-Semitic remarks are automatically cleared off the list using Labour's central database.

And you don't get your £25 back if your application to register is rejected. I wonder if 'Anti-Semitic' includes 'Criticising Israel's policy towards the occupied territories'.

So you can't register to support the Labour party if you've previously supported another party. Just when you thought things couldn't get any more ridiculous.

RobertSnozers wrote:Morning all. Typical that the week we finally get round to having the roof fixed, it rains more in one night than the whole of the previous month. As such, I find myself fixing the roof while the rain falls, thanks to my own decisions. I am literally doing what George Osborne did figuratively for six years.

So after being up most of the night convinced that the noises from the roof were people up there stealing my tiles (rather than, say, the wind flapping the uncovered waterproof sheets around) and suspecting that the unmistakeable patter of feet was a cloven hooved demon (rather than, say, a cat) I find myself wondering if my judgement is all it should be. I ran myself pretty ragged finishing the two novels, am way overstretched with promised work and what with Brexit and discovering that everything I believed in might be wrong, it might be a good idea if I stay away from politics for a bit. My other half says I've been snapping at her a lot, which isn't good. None of this is her fault, even if she is an immigrant. She thinks I'm getting paranoid. Well, she hasn't said anything but I know she's thinking it

So this is a kind of not posting here for a bit post but definitely not flouncing and anyway I don't have a very good record of staying away so I might not not post. Existists unite

StephenDolan wrote:Can I just say that the level of political discussion and the politeness shown to posters here is light-years ahead of other forums I frequent.

ephemerid wrote:40,000 applications rejected but no money back?

That's a million pounds in Labour's coffers.

"Now that ain't workin' that's the way to do it
Lemme tell ya them guys ain't dumb...."

Money for nothing.

I hope somebody sues. Disgraceful.

adam wrote:From the Telegraph

Labour leadership election: 40,000 registered supporters rejected

Around 40,000 people have had their applications to vote in the Labour leadership election rejected.

It is understood that tens of thousands of people have had their £25 applications to become registered supporters thrown out because they previously supported a rival party candidate, were not on the electoral register or because their payments bounced.

People who are recognised to have made racist, sexist or anti-Semitic remarks are automatically cleared off the list using Labour's central database.

And you don't get your £25 back if your application to register is rejected. I wonder if 'Anti-Semitic' includes 'Criticising Israel's policy towards the occupied territories'.

So you can't register to support the Labour party if you've previously supported another party. Just when you thought things couldn't get any more ridiculous.

StephenDolan wrote:It might be a wasted question but does anyone know how 'hard' the check on prior or even current affinity with another political party is enforced?

Floating voters enthused by Corbyn or Smith are exactly who should be made involved and included in the leadership process. Even those that are 'Labour Curious' should be encouraged surely?

StephenDolan wrote:It might be a wasted question but does anyone know how 'hard' the check on prior or even current affinity with another political party is enforced?

Floating voters enthused by Corbyn or Smith are exactly who should be made involved and included in the leadership process. Even those that are 'Labour Curious' should be encouraged surely?

TobyLatimer wrote:

ephemerid wrote:40,000 applications rejected but no money back?

That's a million pounds in Labour's coffers.

"Now that ain't workin' that's the way to do it
Lemme tell ya them guys ain't dumb...."

Money for nothing.

I hope somebody sues. Disgraceful.

Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash