Thanks to AK for clearing up the Allen and Allen mystery that I was also puzzled by.
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You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Are you really going to play Tory apologist?SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You think the Tories are trying to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?refitman wrote:Are you really going to play Tory apologist?SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
SH has a crush on Rentoul, you should know that by now.refitman wrote:Are you really going to play Tory apologist?SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some of them do, yes. There have been advocates for it in the Tory party (and their captive "think tanks") since at least the 1980s.SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The chosen one is Long-Bailey now. Sell shares in Lewis. Stephen Bush is, as always, excellentAnatolyKasparov wrote:No reason why all the resignees shouldn't return in the near future, if they want to.
Students of Labour "kremlinology" have noted that Corbyn and Lewis seem to remain on very good terms, despite this week's events.
Well, of course you can always point to a few on the loonie fringe. But the real threat to and damage done to the public sector is elsewhere. By relentlessly scaremongering about the NHS Lbaour makes it much too easy for them. Everything else gets destroyed. Social care, justice, disability benefits, are all much much worse.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Some of them do, yes. There have been advocates for it in the Tory party (and their captive "think tanks") since at least the 1980s.SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
AnatolyKasparov wrote:My suggestion above - backed up by others - is that she is the "chosen one" of McDonnell and his entourage. Jez maybe not so much?
Freedland has expressed so much of what I have been unable to. Thanks for the linkSpinningHugo wrote:Exactly. On the evils of the government approach to refugee children, and other things. I agree with every word
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The name-calling is one thing. There is a substantive issue at stake here. The binary nature of the EU referendum, and the divisions exposed by the American election, have given rise to a much greater intolerance and intemperance in public exchanges, creating an atmosphere in which those who dare to oppose the new political realities are shouted down. This, in turn, will stop people, whether famous or not, from speaking their mind for fear of finding the heavy artillery of the forces of conservatism being trained on them.
The Daily Mail’s campaign against Gary Lineker is nowhere near the most egregious example of this latent nastiness. Extremist language is increasingly used in the mainstream. Right wingers who have applauded the rise of Trump, defending his more outrageous statements by invoking his rights to say what he likes, are uninterested in engaging in nuanced argument. Those who oppose them are regarded, to borrow a famous Daily Mail phrase, as enemies of the people.
Like with the NHS, those who have always lived with democracy have no reference by which to rate its worth and thus fail to value it.When asked to rate on a scale of 1 to 10 how “essential” it is for them “to live in a democracy,” 72% of Americans born before World War II check “10,” the highest value. But, the millennial generation (those born since 1980) “has grown much more indifferent.” Less than 1 in 3 hold a similar belief about the importance of democracy.
Back in the day, 'adult' film producers used to shoot whatever they wanted and send their finished films to the BBFC for certification, not bothering to edit out material that they knew they wouldn't get away with because they knew that the BBFC would, effectively, create an edit list for them.Eric_WLothian wrote:Campaigners opposed to Donald Trump's travel ban are celebrating after the White House said it would not challenge an appeals court ruling in the Supreme Court.
Just 3 things:
No further police action against Mr Vaz
No illegal donations to Mr Bercow
No rules broken by either donors or receiving MPs
The theme of this article appears to be: Why smear just one MP when you can smear two with the same story ?
This piece could have been written by the obnoxious Andrew Brigden & I wouldn't have been at all surprised to see his name in the byline.
Except, maybe, to the membership.SpinningHugo wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:My suggestion above - backed up by others - is that she is the "chosen one" of McDonnell and his entourage. Jez maybe not so much?
Jez has never mattered as much as McDonnell.
Yes, I do.SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unfortunately what used to be the "loony fringe" of the conservative party are now in charge of it (and the country) hence Brexit and the running down of the NHS along the privatisation road.SpinningHugo wrote:Well, of course you can always point to a few on the loonie fringe. But the real threat to and damage done to the public sector is elsewhere. By relentlessly scaremongering about the NHS Lbaour makes it much too easy for them. Everything else gets destroyed. Social care, justice, disability benefits, are all much much worse.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Some of them do, yes. There have been advocates for it in the Tory party (and their captive "think tanks") since at least the 1980s.SpinningHugo wrote: You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?
I can never get my head around an alleged member of the left writing for a poisonous right wing rag like the Mail or MOS. How can you write for a news group that loathes your political position?StephenDolan wrote:How did I miss this?
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The bow tie brigade do and did. It's not worth the hassle though. Privatise the provision and maintain taxpayer model, and the public barely notice and donors are happy.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Some of them do, yes. There have been advocates for it in the Tory party (and their captive "think tanks") since at least the 1980s.SpinningHugo wrote:You think the Tories are seeking to replace the NHS with a private insurance based system?StephenDolan wrote:The Tories and Hunt. They're misunderstood over the NHS.
There's tools, then there's Rentoul.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jer ... 02846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He can't argue properly at all, can he?StephenDolan wrote:How did I miss this?
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As my consultant friend says, worst since 1997.AngryAsWell wrote:The NHS Is Crumbling And Jeremy Hunt Is Letting It Happen Says James
A&E wait times are at record highs. Here James O'Brien says the NHS is 'dissolving before our eyes' - and the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is letting it happen.
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Jerry Maguire.AngryAsWell wrote:Early day motion 943
NO CONFIDENCE IN THE SPEAKER
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Number of signatures is impressive
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Exactly the same as when people being banned from Twitter get all shouty about free speech - it's their business who they let use it. Don't like it? Well, tough.Tubby Isaacs wrote:He can't argue properly at all, can he?StephenDolan wrote:How did I miss this?
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Far more important than any uni club no=platforming or banning from Twitter.Proposals in the UK for a swingeing new Espionage Act that could jail journalists as spies have been developed in haste by legal advisors, The Register has learned.
The proposed law update is an attempt to ban reporting of future big data leaks.
The British government has received recommendations for a "future-proofed" new Espionage Act that would put leaking and whistleblowing in the same category as spying for foreign powers.
That threatens leakers and journalists with the same extended jail sentences as foreign agents. Sentences would apply even if – like Edward Snowden or Chelsea Manning – the leaker was not British, or in Britain, or was intent on acting in the public interest.
He also seems to think that Wiki removing the Mail as a valid source is also preventing them from publishing a newspaper.Tubby Isaacs wrote:He can't argue properly at all, can he?StephenDolan wrote:How did I miss this?
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There are some great graphs with info from the IFS that show NHS funding since 1955. The difference between Labour & Tory govts is stark. I've added a couple showing the 4 hour waits vs tagets too - this seems to be the only reference to Labour's 98% target that I can find.AngryAsWell wrote:The NHS Is Crumbling And Jeremy Hunt Is Letting It Happen Says James
A&E wait times are at record highs. Here James O'Brien says the NHS is 'dissolving before our eyes' - and the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is letting it happen.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/j ... it-happen/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hmm - can't think of ANYTHING in 2010 that would account for that change in trajectory.pk1 wrote:There are some great graphs with info from the IFS that show NHS funding since 1955. The difference between Labour & Tory govts is stark. I've added a couple showing the 4 hour waits vs tagets too - this seems to be the only reference to Labour's 98% target that I can find.AngryAsWell wrote:The NHS Is Crumbling And Jeremy Hunt Is Letting It Happen Says James
A&E wait times are at record highs. Here James O'Brien says the NHS is 'dissolving before our eyes' - and the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is letting it happen.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/j ... it-happen/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Two-thirds of young hospital doctors under serious stress, survey reveals
Trainee anaesthetists complain of fatigue, disillusionment, ‘burnout’ and fears for patients’ safety as pressure mounts on NHS
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A survey of the working lives of 2,300 trainee anaesthetists has found that six out of seven – 85% – are at risk of becoming burned out, despite only being in their 20s and 30s. Respondents identified long hours, fears about patient safety, the disruption of working night shifts and long commutes to their hospital as key reasons for their growing fatigue and disillusionment.
Chronic understaffing in hospitals means that trainees are typically being asked to work six extra shifts a month to cover for gaps in rotas, the survey found.
Jeremy Hunt – the public is blaming you, not health tourism, for the NHS crisis
Brits abroad die or are seriously injured in tragic accidents of their own making but because it happens in the EU there is no need to tell tabloid readers of how much our citizens are costing other countries health care systems
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Imagine in 2020 if a British youth who has been on a drunken night out in Majorca goes to the local hospital which then refuses to give them a stomach pump without up front payment. The young person then dies after choking on their own vomit. This may be the reality when we leave the EU and we end reciprocal arrangements for free health care. I can visualise already the screaming headlines of "British youth left to die by greedy Spanish hospital".
Sounds like a plan.Oxbridge still has a problem with elitism – as the student trying to burn money in front of a homeless man shows
Admission quotas would release opportunity for thousands of students. Let private schools take 7 per cent of the places, and give the remaining 93 per cent to state-educated students
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