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Monday 13th February 2017
Morning all.
Just been reading
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-powe ... underdogs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Plenty of good stuff in there that this link monkey recommends reading and thinking on.
Just been reading
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-powe ... underdogs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Plenty of good stuff in there that this link monkey recommends reading and thinking on.
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Morning.
Just read last night's posts, the link to the Kipper tweet led to an unavailable page.
Is this the one ?
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Just read last night's posts, the link to the Kipper tweet led to an unavailable page.
Is this the one ?
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& thanks Eric and PF - the cinema memories were lovely.
There's a lot that we share.
There's a lot that we share.
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The Greens have issued a report on Brexit and environmental legislation.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... on-says-mp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Good morfternoon.
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Lake Oroville: 130,000 told to evacuate as part of tallest dam in US 'set to fail'
Lake Oroville: 130,000 told to evacuate as part of tallest dam in US 'set to fail'
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Cheating Frenchman sues Uber for unmasking affair
Cheating Frenchman sues Uber for unmasking affair
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Pensioner incomes have now soared above those of people of working age, that remain grounded.
http://www.resolutionfoundation.org/app ... ra-gen.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Get rid of the triple lock.
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Get rid of the triple lock.
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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/ ... households" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Working households" now £20 a week worse off than pensioners.
"Working households" now £20 a week worse off than pensioners.
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"David Davies apologies for being David Davies"
"David Davies apologies for being David Davies"
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So, not content with ending freedom of movement within the EU, now Labour wants to end freedom of movement within the UK
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics ... 64956.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Let us hope this remains a 'nascent idea'.
Watson is useless.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics ... 64956.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Let us hope this remains a 'nascent idea'.
Watson is useless.
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For sale: Co-op Bank looks for buyers
For sale: Co-op Bank looks for buyers
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Excellent piece (in my view) by Zoe Williams.
Of course it will not be read by those people that should read and digest but I am glad that someone in that now discredited "profession" has the guts to stand up to those with fascist tendencies.
All credit to Gary Lineker by the way.
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Of course it will not be read by those people that should read and digest but I am glad that someone in that now discredited "profession" has the guts to stand up to those with fascist tendencies.
All credit to Gary Lineker by the way.
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Theresa May accused of 'switching her language' over Irish border
Theresa May accused of 'switching her language' over Irish border
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Undercover Panorama report reveals prison chaos
Undercover Panorama report reveals prison chaos
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Suffocating planet: urban air pollution around the world today – live
Suffocating planet: urban air pollution around the world today – live
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Hidden carers: the sixty-somethings looking after parents and grandchildren
Hidden carers: the sixty-somethings looking after parents and grandchildren
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Just to counter the myth.
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Morning all.
I remember the days when all Sodexho did was to supply our catering at work...the insidious takeover of public services by these companies is appalling - back door privatization calling itself "public sector reform". And no, I don't care who started or who continued it. I want it stopped.
I heard the piece on that on Today before I rose.
I remember the days when all Sodexho did was to supply our catering at work...the insidious takeover of public services by these companies is appalling - back door privatization calling itself "public sector reform". And no, I don't care who started or who continued it. I want it stopped.
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Eric and PF are a couple?
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Yes. I remember when I signed up for voluntary work for the local hospital. Turned out it was expected that I provide free labour for the privatised cleaning outfit.RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
I heard the piece on that on Today before I rose.
I remember the days when all Sodexho did was to supply our catering at work...the insidious takeover of public services by these companies is appalling - back door privatization calling itself "public sector reform". And no, I don't care who started or who continued it. I want it stopped.
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Were. Were. It's over now. Think Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie . . .HindleA wrote:Eric and PF are a couple?
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
At least yahyah has gone back to using words,rather than Morse Code.
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
I am learning various codes to help with the GCHQ puzzle book questions.
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It's been pointed out below that parliament is in recess this week...BBC Essex Verified account
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"It needs to happen this week." MP for Rochford and Southend East @JamesDuddridge calls for vote of no confidence in John Bercow "very soon"
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Taylor and Burton.
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Sad to see Angry's post last night.
Will miss you x
Will miss you x
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Oh dear...
Nick Timothy has his work cut out to get this going I'd say...
Freddie Whittaker @FCDWhittaker 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: @CommonsEd finds government is "yet to prove the case for opening a new wave of grammar schools". Story to follow.
Nick Timothy has his work cut out to get this going I'd say...
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
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The Kerslake Review of the Treasury
Mainlymacro
The Kerslake Review of the Treasury
Mainlymacro
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And here's the report.
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http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... hed-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yes, there's one thing that people know about said object...it has yet to be found.At the evidence hearing, the Schools Minister suggested a tutor-proof test is a 'holy grail'. The Education Committee recommends that if this is the case selection tests should not be the only basis for grammar school admissions. The Committee finds that the Government has yet to demonstrate how an admissions system could be designed in a manner which would be immune to gaming, or down to the ability to pay.
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Yes, a shame. I expect they will be back soon.yahyah wrote:Sad to see Angry's post last night.
Will miss you x
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
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£115,000 raised for children of couple who died of cancer
Luke, 21, Hannah, 18, and Oliver Bennet, 13, ‘overwhelmed’ by support from donors after parents died within hours of each other last week
£115,000 raised for children of couple who died of cancer
Luke, 21, Hannah, 18, and Oliver Bennet, 13, ‘overwhelmed’ by support from donors after parents died within hours of each other last week
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
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Northern Ireland power sharing: Brokenshire accused of being biased
Northern Ireland power sharing: Brokenshire accused of being biased
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
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Labour Press
It’s about time Justice Secretary Truss stopped mud-slinging and took responsibility - Richard Burgon
Labour Press
It’s about time Justice Secretary Truss stopped mud-slinging and took responsibility - Richard Burgon
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Press release
Putting a stop to town hall boycotts
Further steps to prevent councils from boycotting companies and countries if it's against the government’s position
Press release
Putting a stop to town hall boycotts
Further steps to prevent councils from boycotting companies and countries if it's against the government’s position
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Yougov poll shows what we know already.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/vo ... labour-24/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What I found interesting was how Leave/Remain voters split.
If only REMAINERS voted ryou get Lab 35, Con 29, LD 19; if only LEAVERS voted Con 51, UKIP 29, Lab 11.
Shows how Cons are dependent on Remain voters for their high figure. whereas Labour aren't as dependent upon their small cohort of Leavers.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/vo ... labour-24/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What I found interesting was how Leave/Remain voters split.
If only REMAINERS voted ryou get Lab 35, Con 29, LD 19; if only LEAVERS voted Con 51, UKIP 29, Lab 11.
Shows how Cons are dependent on Remain voters for their high figure. whereas Labour aren't as dependent upon their small cohort of Leavers.
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That's a lot of Remain Tory voters. When the wheels come off there'll be one helluva Blue Battle Royale.SpinningHugo wrote:Yougov poll shows what we know already.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/vo ... labour-24/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What I found interesting was how Leave/Remain voters split.
If only REMAINERS voted ryou get Lab 35, Con 29, LD 19; if only LEAVERS voted Con 51, UKIP 29, Lab 11.
Shows how Cons are dependent on Remain voters for their high figure. whereas Labour aren't as dependent upon their small cohort of Leavers.
BTW, Bruce Medallion?
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StephenDolan wrote:That's a lot of Remain Tory voters. When the wheels come off there'll be one helluva Blue Battle Royale.SpinningHugo wrote:Yougov poll shows what we know already.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/vo ... labour-24/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What I found interesting was how Leave/Remain voters split.
If only REMAINERS voted ryou get Lab 35, Con 29, LD 19; if only LEAVERS voted Con 51, UKIP 29, Lab 11.
Shows how Cons are dependent on Remain voters for their high figure. whereas Labour aren't as dependent upon their small cohort of Leavers.
the Ukips figure looks high to me (14%). One reason I think Labour is very safe in Stoke (but not Copeland) is the collapse of Ukips. i expect that to get worse. That should shield the Tories for a while at least.
but yes, once the consequences of brexit become apparent, the Tories will pay a price and Labour will recover. I can't see the tories maintaining a 15 point average poll lead all the way through to 2020/
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Re: Monday 13th February 2017
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Home Office is lying about capacity to care for child refugees
Andy Elvin
Home Office is lying about capacity to care for child refugees
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Stephen Hawking-style tech helped convict ex-vicar of child abuse
Former choirboy with motor neurone disease was able to testify against his assailant by using eye-tracking equipment
Stephen Hawking-style tech helped convict ex-vicar of child abuse
Former choirboy with motor neurone disease was able to testify against his assailant by using eye-tracking equipment
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I guess it comes down to when the becomes apparent happens to a) the Conservative MPs, b) the political media and c) the voting population.SpinningHugo wrote:StephenDolan wrote:That's a lot of Remain Tory voters. When the wheels come off there'll be one helluva Blue Battle Royale.SpinningHugo wrote:Yougov poll shows what we know already.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/vo ... labour-24/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What I found interesting was how Leave/Remain voters split.
If only REMAINERS voted ryou get Lab 35, Con 29, LD 19; if only LEAVERS voted Con 51, UKIP 29, Lab 11.
Shows how Cons are dependent on Remain voters for their high figure. whereas Labour aren't as dependent upon their small cohort of Leavers.
the Ukips figure looks high to me (14%). One reason I think Labour is very safe in Stoke (but not Copeland) is the collapse of Ukips. i expect that to get worse. That should shield the Tories for a while at least.
but yes, once the consequences of brexit become apparent, the Tories will pay a price and Labour will recover. I can't see the tories maintaining a 15 point average poll lead all the way through to 2020/
My hunch is the outrage will be focused on the enemy EU not giving us the deal we wanted. By we, I mean May of course.
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Britons living in the EU face Brexit backlash, leaked paper warns
Exclusive: UK government’s treatment of EU nationals may colour EU27’s approach to reciprocal rights, says document
Britons living in the EU face Brexit backlash, leaked paper warns
Exclusive: UK government’s treatment of EU nationals may colour EU27’s approach to reciprocal rights, says document
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That may very likely be true of the media, its the other two groups who are more up for grabs however......StephenDolan wrote:I guess it comes down to when the becomes apparent happens to a) the Conservative MPs, b) the political media and c) the voting population.SpinningHugo wrote:StephenDolan wrote: That's a lot of Remain Tory voters. When the wheels come off there'll be one helluva Blue Battle Royale.
the Ukips figure looks high to me (14%). One reason I think Labour is very safe in Stoke (but not Copeland) is the collapse of Ukips. i expect that to get worse. That should shield the Tories for a while at least.
but yes, once the consequences of brexit become apparent, the Tories will pay a price and Labour will recover. I can't see the tories maintaining a 15 point average poll lead all the way through to 2020/
My hunch is the outrage will be focused on the enemy EU not giving us the deal we wanted. By we, I mean May of course.
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Where we are people already have to travel 10 miles to the nearest jobcentre, £7.00 return. Our local jobcentre was closed many years ago. Fewer people unemployed obviously means fewer people using each jobcentre but a) they are still going to be living all over, rather than conveniently clustered around jobcentres and b) things change, a few months of recession and demand could go right back up again. This policy clearly reveals a lack of commitment to the provision of unemployment benefit going forward and as such is very worrying.The Department for Work and Pensions has been accused of taking a “cavalier attitude” to closing 78 local jobcentres across the country after it emerged it had not even conducted an impact assessment of the policy.
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After the previous round of jobcentre closures, people were allowed to sign on "electronically" in certain areas if they lived some way away.
But that also seems to have been done away with now.
But that also seems to have been done away with now.
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Labour safe in Stoke
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/el ... lose-stoke" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
worth a bet at 10/11
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http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/el ... lose-stoke" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
worth a bet at 10/11
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To add to the above, the claims that the Tories are running a paper campaign in Stoke are not entirely backed by accounts on the ground there.
(indeed, there are claims they have not totally given up on second place)
(indeed, there are claims they have not totally given up on second place)
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Yes I read the same. Tories can take comfort from any of the outcomes.AnatolyKasparov wrote:To add to the above, the claims that the Tories are running a paper campaign in Stoke are not entirely backed by accounts on the ground there.
(indeed, there are claims they have not totally given up on second place)
Re: Monday 13th February 2017
Hello.
Further to Roger's post from last night re Tim Loughton/Ken Loach, the MP actually managed to get worse:
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"Ken Loach uses a BAFTA platform to lambast Govt for stuff that is nothing to do with his film"
Further to Roger's post from last night re Tim Loughton/Ken Loach, the MP actually managed to get worse:
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"Ken Loach uses a BAFTA platform to lambast Govt for stuff that is nothing to do with his film"