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Thursday 20th April 2017
Morning all.
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No difference between Robinson yesterday and Humphrys interviewing today hey.
No difference between Robinson yesterday and Humphrys interviewing today hey.
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Morning
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... SApp_Other" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Green Investment Bank to be sold off in £2.3bn deal
Bank expected to retain offices in London and Edinburgh, as bid from Australia’s Macquarie accepted despite opposition
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Green Investment Bank to be sold off in £2.3bn deal
Bank expected to retain offices in London and Edinburgh, as bid from Australia’s Macquarie accepted despite opposition
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Labour’s framing of public services as universal benefits is a canny move
Frances Ryan
Labour’s framing of public services as universal benefits is a canny move
Frances Ryan
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Morning.
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The BBC Media Editor there.
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The BBC Media Editor there.
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Good grief.
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Normally, I'd say you won't beat this for chutzpah and total lack of self-awareness. But it's only day two, so...
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Bill O’Reilly’s Best On-Air Meltdowns
Bill O’Reilly’s Best On-Air Meltdowns
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Investigation into overseas sellers failing to charge VAT on online sales
The NAO have investigated concerns that online sellers outside the EU are avoiding charging VAT.
Investigation into overseas sellers failing to charge VAT on online sales
The NAO have investigated concerns that online sellers outside the EU are avoiding charging VAT.
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The bigging up of Cooper. Deary me.
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Can your council do more for young people leaving care?
We are calling on councils to make young people leaving care exempt from paying council tax until they turn 25.
Can your council do more for young people leaving care?
We are calling on councils to make young people leaving care exempt from paying council tax until they turn 25.
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Practice and procedure
Practice and procedure issues relate to claims, mandatory reconsideration and appeal processes, and the responsibilities and powers of decision makers and tribunals. Whilst there has been PIP case law concerning practice and procedure issues, case law from other benefits may also be relevant.
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Practice and procedure
Practice and procedure issues relate to claims, mandatory reconsideration and appeal processes, and the responsibilities and powers of decision makers and tribunals. Whilst there has been PIP case law concerning practice and procedure issues, case law from other benefits may also be relevant.
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Text message from Lenny,I should have been more specific,has just booked himself into a hotel in Mansfield,Ohio.
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Good morfternoon.
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Childhood mortality in England and Wales: 2015
First increase since 2006
NB not being dramatic,such things are indicative/warnings,of course presuming of course you are not of the shrugging of shoulders type,or worse.
Childhood mortality in England and Wales: 2015
First increase since 2006
NB not being dramatic,such things are indicative/warnings,of course presuming of course you are not of the shrugging of shoulders type,or worse.
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Feel free to fucking contribute,lazy bastards(ban me)
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Bespoke personally addressed abuses are available by request.
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It is indeed quiet around these parts.HindleA wrote:Feel free to fucking contribute,lazy bastards(ban me)
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StephenDolan wrote:The bigging up of Cooper. Deary me.
Her problem is that she'll be labelled a Blairite again. Possible the PLP could just impose her (as they did with Brown) but it is pretty clear she is the de facto leader of the PLP. She is much more able than Starmer, IMO, who is a myth.
The softer alternative, more acceptable to the membership, would be Lisa Nandy. I've warmed to her, and I think she could perform the Kinnock role.
That Andy "riots on the streets, posh coffee" Burnham, beat Cooper in 2015 seemed extraordinary to me at the time, and looks ridiculous now, but may indicate that candidates like Cooper and Nandy can't win if opposed.
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Today's Daily Mail editorial in full:
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Dacre's so close to his dream.
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Dacre's so close to his dream.
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Voter turnout is likely to be so low this general election that May's result will barely be democratic
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 91321.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How low can it go, I wonder.
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How low can it go, I wonder.
One world, like it or not - John Martyn
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Some good comments down that thread.NonOxCol wrote:Today's Daily Mail editorial in full:
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Dacre's so close to his dream.
One world, like it or not - John Martyn
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Both of them are petulant spiteful brats who have absented themselves from the front bench in a gigantic sulk. Cooper, let us not forget, was the brain behind the murderous WCA regime: she has innocent blood on her hands.SpinningHugo wrote:StephenDolan wrote:The bigging up of Cooper. Deary me.
Her problem is that she'll be labelled a Blairite again. Possible the PLP could just impose her (as they did with Brown) but it is pretty clear she is the de facto leader of the PLP. She is much more able than Starmer, IMO, who is a myth.
The softer alternative, more acceptable to the membership, would be Lisa Nandy. I've warmed to her, and I think she could perform the Kinnock role.
That Andy "riots on the streets, posh coffee" Burnham, beat Cooper in 2015 seemed extraordinary to me at the time, and looks ridiculous now, but may indicate that candidates like Cooper and Nandy can't win if opposed.
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Pretty sure Starmer exists.
Cooper's ,far from your binary thing and your (granted far from the only one)and your easy fit description of members is,(of course I can only go by still being a member and meeting them regularly and other such irrelevancies)is somewhat way off,"problem",as far as I am,and not insignificant others is the part she played,not least in steadfast refusal to listen to or even acknowledge concerns with WCA-granted some will posit that through the blairite thing,I don't,pure neglect.
Cooper's ,far from your binary thing and your (granted far from the only one)and your easy fit description of members is,(of course I can only go by still being a member and meeting them regularly and other such irrelevancies)is somewhat way off,"problem",as far as I am,and not insignificant others is the part she played,not least in steadfast refusal to listen to or even acknowledge concerns with WCA-granted some will posit that through the blairite thing,I don't,pure neglect.
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Genuinely concerning slug increase.
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If I repeat points already made,,a function of responding without seeing,rather than ignoring or copying,reminder.
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I see. So presumably you'd favour someone prepared to serve? Starmer or Long-Bailey being the only plausible ones I guess. The latter won't get the nominations, and I suspect the former won't stand as the PLP share my view of him.Temulkar wrote:Both of them are petulant spiteful brats who have absented themselves from the front bench in a gigantic sulk. Cooper, let us not forget, was the brain behind the murderous WCA regime: she has innocent blood on her hands.SpinningHugo wrote:StephenDolan wrote:The bigging up of Cooper. Deary me.
Her problem is that she'll be labelled a Blairite again. Possible the PLP could just impose her (as they did with Brown) but it is pretty clear she is the de facto leader of the PLP. She is much more able than Starmer, IMO, who is a myth.
The softer alternative, more acceptable to the membership, would be Lisa Nandy. I've warmed to her, and I think she could perform the Kinnock role.
That Andy "riots on the streets, posh coffee" Burnham, beat Cooper in 2015 seemed extraordinary to me at the time, and looks ridiculous now, but may indicate that candidates like Cooper and Nandy can't win if opposed.
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(Note to self,keep the Lenny thing going,I have an audience)
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Previously Beryl,I didn't know pigeons could have sex changes.
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You're brilliantHindleA wrote:Feel free to fucking contribute,lazy bastards(ban me)
I mean it, sincerely
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Good-morning, everyone
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Mr H - am indisposed (work) but have logged in specifically to support your efforts.
Where the hell is PF?
And has she got a packet of tabs in the sleeve of a cap-sleeved T-shirt?
(and if not why not)?
Where the hell is PF?
And has she got a packet of tabs in the sleeve of a cap-sleeved T-shirt?
(and if not why not)?
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Labour has a leader and there is a general election to fight. I think this is a deliberate, but pointless, distraction from discussing policies and the election because all you care about is slagging off Jeremy Corbyn and Labour. You and others are, frankly, unhealthily obsessed with the man. It is a typical troll tactic to start flame wars, not that sophisticated but still deliberately divisive.I see. So presumably you'd favour someone prepared to serve? Starmer or Long-Bailey being the only plausible ones I guess. The latter won't get the nominations, and I suspect the former won't stand as the PLP share my view of him.
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Pigeons and swearing seems to work,albeit temporarily.
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So did anyone catch the speech?
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Labour Press
Jeremy Corbyn first speech of the 2017 General Election campaign
***CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY***
Labour Press
Jeremy Corbyn first speech of the 2017 General Election campaign
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Just emerged from sleep collapse, HindleA's post keeping me busy.StephenDolan wrote:It is indeed quiet around these parts.HindleA wrote:Feel free to fucking contribute,lazy bastards(ban me)
Early indication from Bolton there is life after May, and not that impressed with visit. (Not the source others may have seen, but there are other constituencies in Bolton that want rid too.)
Sweeping in with a limo motorcade might not be the best kind of electioneering after all.
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Greens may not stand n Plymouth to help labour
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Of course it suits us, given we have less cash than the rest, to concentrate our resources and not be spread to thinly, so... I suspect we may see more of these 'informal' arrangements.
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That's not a comprehensive list of those I love and miss, please don't get angry or offended if I've not used your username, please know I love you too
Please don't get angry with me for posting your usernames, I won't do it again if you'd rather I'd not
I know those I miss may not like or love me, it doesn't seem to matter, I love you regardless, I won't pester you about it so don't be alarmed
I ask your pardon if I've given offence
I respectfully suggest we set aside quarrels and work out difficulty together
I'm sorry if I bore my friends here, insipidity is lamentable on threads
I used to think I'd be a good writer, I'm not
It's enough for me being a good reader
Thank you all for your continued patience, not just with me but with others too
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Some Green friendly solutions:SpinningHugo wrote:Genuinely concerning slug increase.
http://www.citymetric.com/horizons/supe ... -them-2967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://greensideup.ie/slugs-how-to-deal ... ganically/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles ... -allotment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From my limited experience (2 weeks house sitting),Running Ducks, love early morning, slug feasts.
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Tem,as a matter of information/clarification.I voted,think Green in a local once.I cannot remember the exact date but around '92 in the Reigate area,I'm trying to remember if actually "Green" or ecology or similar,be grateful if you could confirm,if possible.
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I was still v much Labour in those days, Im afraid - NOLS and all that - although I seem to remember a green surge around then.HindleA wrote:Tem,as a matter of information/clarification.I voted,think Green in a local once.I cannot remember the exact date but around '92 in the Reigate area,I'm trying to remember if actually "Green" or ecology or similar,be grateful if you could confirm,if possible.
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No Labour candidate,fuck all chance,but it was a work colleague and in lieu of not voting.And stop making me feel old.
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I've just finished reading itStephenDolan wrote:So did anyone catch the speech?
Outstanding
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Of course,I was only three at the time,but with stilts,wig and a bit of make up....
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I'm using beer traps. Vaseline round the tops of tubs, and egg shells.tinybgoat wrote:Some Green friendly solutions:SpinningHugo wrote:Genuinely concerning slug increase.
http://www.citymetric.com/horizons/supe ... -them-2967" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://greensideup.ie/slugs-how-to-deal ... ganically/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.permaculture.co.uk/articles ... -allotment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From my limited experience (2 weeks house sitting),Running Ducks, love early morning, slug feasts.
Don't like the pellets as they kill hedgehogs (IMO).
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Douglas Carswell (Ind) isn't standing and neither is Fiona Mactaggart (Lab).
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From Sparrow and Phipps
No, it really isn't.
Tories are in some pretty sh** that's for sure and certain
(my emphasis)That didn’t take long. Earlier I said that, if Labour were to offer voters a second referendum on Brexit, Theresa May
“would immediately accuse [Jeremy] Corbyn of collaborating with what the Daily Mail calls the Brexit ‘saboteurs’.”
I apologise; I was wrong. Labour have merely hinted that they might offer a second referendum, by refusing to rule
it out (see 12.11pm), and the Tories are running that attack line anyway.
Commenting on Corbyn’s refusal to rule out a second Brexit referendum, Patrick McLoughlin, [Tory] party chairman:
"This is yet more evidence of chaos from Jeremy Corbyn and Labour."
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No, it really isn't.
Tories are in some pretty sh** that's for sure and certain