Thursday 15th June 2017
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The question that needs answering is why was this product not taken off the market (and the building it has covered) as soon as the problems with it were identified? It is used internationally.
Cladding in London high-rise fire also blamed for 2014 Melbourne blaze
A fire at the Lacrosse building in Melbourne’s Docklands in 2014 is strikingly similar to London blaze as investigations point to cladding used in buildings
"There have been reports of fires involving aluminium cladding in residential towers in France, the United Arab Emirates, South Korea and the US."
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Cladding in London high-rise fire also blamed for 2014 Melbourne blaze
A fire at the Lacrosse building in Melbourne’s Docklands in 2014 is strikingly similar to London blaze as investigations point to cladding used in buildings
"There have been reports of fires involving aluminium cladding in residential towers in France, the United Arab Emirates, South Korea and the US."
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Not sure when Hurd is making statement,now but will be televised.
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I don't have a televisionHindleA wrote:Not sure when Hurd is making statement,now but will be televised.
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Has the position now changed from this -HindleA wrote:Not sure when Hurd is making statement,now but will be televised.
?Nick Hurd, the fire minister, is going to speak to MPs in Westminster Hall at 1.30pm about the Grenfell Tower fire.
But it is not a proceeding of parliament, and it will not be televised. I’m heading off there now to cover it in person. I will be blogging about it in the Grenfell Tower blog. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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I-player?
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@PF info keeps changing.
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###k knows
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Government in hiding
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Yes, I thought it was very good.HindleA wrote:Newsnight,referenced earlier worth a look,if not seen.
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Now House say again we can't televise the proceedings of the Hurd statement, even tho number 10 told me we can
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Now House say again we can't televise the proceedings of the Hurd statement, even tho number 10 told me we can
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we've zero strong and stable sighting
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@Peterwalker99 relaying information.
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I like Peter Walker a lotHindleA wrote:@Peterwalker99 relaying information.
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UK welfare benefits fall short of international standards
UK welfare benefits fall short of international standards
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Now on telly
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Housing minister speaking,in case wondering.
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I did a four-mile hike in an hour early this morning
I'm not a kid any more
I'll check in later
love,
cJA
I'm not a kid any more
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We know the fucking background,stop the prevarication,what are going to do.
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Go on Karen.
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Oh, I can assure him that some find it very easy to disagree....
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Excellent thread on red tape and regulation
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Where's the Council in this? Shouldn't they be there helping with the distribution of aid? Can't see any evidence of their helping out.
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Loads of empty flats (land banks) in Kensington. @jeremycorbyn right that govt should requisition to rehouse Grenfell survivors
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Loads of empty flats (land banks) in Kensington. @jeremycorbyn right that govt should requisition to rehouse Grenfell survivors
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Interesting. May well stop the spin that accompanies any release of stats that don't fit the narrative.
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Jonathan Portes Retweeted Hetan Shah
A round-robin letter from statisticians & economists that worked! Ministers/civil servants won't see ONS stats before rest of us any more
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That should make PMQs a bit more interesting.RogerOThornhill wrote:Interesting. May well stop the spin that accompanies any release of stats that don't fit the narrative.
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A round-robin letter from statisticians & economists that worked! Ministers/civil servants won't see ONS stats before rest of us any more
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Surely even the most obtuse apologist can read this graph:
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Empathy.
Humanity.
Leadership.
@jeremycorbyn #grenfell
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@jeremycorbyn #grenfell
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Shitrag is as shitrag does:
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"In case you thought we'd changed"
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And where one starts, the other follows:
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Start date announced for negotiations with European Commission
Start date announced for negotiations with European Commission
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Research and analysis
Social mobility barometer poll
Research and analysis
Social mobility barometer poll
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I was going to wonder out loud here when this would start. I then thought it was:NonOxCol wrote:Shitrag is as shitrag does:
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a) probably a flight of fancy;
b) in incredibly bad taste; and
c) a bit melodramatic.
I should have known better.
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Jesus, what was the phrase again? "In office, but not in power"??
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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Sinn Fein I presume?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Jesus, what was the phrase again? "In office, but not in power"??
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There are no words for this shower.
There are no words for this shower.
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Evening all
One party looks like a Government and one doesn't....
All the useful interventions today have come from one side....and it isn't the Tories!
Confidence doesn't half make a difference!
One party looks like a Government and one doesn't....
All the useful interventions today have come from one side....and it isn't the Tories!
Confidence doesn't half make a difference!
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LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Oh yes there are.NonOxCol wrote:
There are no words for this shower.
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From that Europe (and yet miraculously in English).http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur ... ml#ref=rss" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Europe used to have a fearful respect of the Tories. But those days have long since passed. Now, the weakened party may have accidentally killed off Brexit -- a pet project that most party leaders didn't want in the first place.
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Indeed, the party of Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher has turned into a gaggle of high rollers and unwitting clowns.
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Can't say as I'm any great fan of Winston Churchill - but I'm guessing that the person quoted was.
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Woman ‘forced to sit in her own urine for two hours’ by PIP assessor
Woman ‘forced to sit in her own urine for two hours’ by PIP assessor
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We are very concerned you were able to tell people about it,a DWPbot said.
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Peter Jukes is tweeting that two Sun hacks impersonated victims' relatives in order to gain hospital access.
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So...QT tonight.
Some of the articles up there this week about Labour brainwashing kids - including an amazing one on nurseries! - have been deranged. Real whiny "why doesn't anyone like us?" stuff.
Nope.David Dimbleby chairs topical debate from Coventry. On the panel are Conservative defence minister Tobias Ellwood, Labour's shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry, Lib Dem former health minister Norman Lamb, co-founder of the Conservative Woman website Laura Perrins, and Rob Delaney, comedian, writer and star of the sitcom Catastrophe.
Some of the articles up there this week about Labour brainwashing kids - including an amazing one on nurseries! - have been deranged. Real whiny "why doesn't anyone like us?" stuff.
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This thread pretty much sums up the ludicrousness of May's current position.
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