Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Re.Prime Minister Trump's speech on Aghaniran
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Re.Prime Minister Trump's speech on Aghaniran
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Interesting take on new political arrangements by Hugh Muir in the guardian
Why did Boris Johnson blow £940m? Because the system let him
Why did Boris Johnson blow £940m? Because the system let him
This is the age of the administrative monarch. We are encouraged to place power and trust in individuals of purported unparalleled wisdom, vision and probity. Mayors, metro mayors, police commissioners, superheads; we outsource to individuals, increasing their power in the belief they will get things done, unencumbered by faint hearts and red tape.
By this thinking, democratic checks and balances are a bother. There can, in this political calibration, be some light-touch monitoring, but the monarch must have all the power. True democracy can be such a millstone.
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Good morfternoon.
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Response to Daily Telegraph story on new GCSE grades
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Response to Daily Telegraph story on new GCSE grades
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Morning all.
Up at silly o'clock to accompany 'er indoors to the Royal London. No idea when her procedure is taking place so I'm playing a waiting game today.
I like this about yesterday's silliness.
Up at silly o'clock to accompany 'er indoors to the Royal London. No idea when her procedure is taking place so I'm playing a waiting game today.
I like this about yesterday's silliness.
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I'm live-tweeting the last chimes of Big Ben. Sombre atmos. People here bravely going about their business like somehow it doesn't matter.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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European Investment Bank cuts off cash for British building projects due to Brexit
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/824e ... 7a3aea90d9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Public-sector beneficiaries of EIB funding said that the move could delay new projects and push up the cost of finance. Areas expected to be affected include offshore energy turbines and capital projects to fund schools, university buildings and hospitals. The bank is also the largest source of funding for housing association building programmes. Projects supported by the bank include the priority schools building programme, the northern powerhouse and Crossrail. The bank’s money is attractive because of the amount of money on offer for big projects and its rates of interest, which are often lower than government-backed loans. Its involvement can also attract additional private investmenf"
http://www.24housing.co.uk/news/brexit- ... l-housing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit ‘cuts off’ cash for social housing
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/824e ... 7a3aea90d9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Public-sector beneficiaries of EIB funding said that the move could delay new projects and push up the cost of finance. Areas expected to be affected include offshore energy turbines and capital projects to fund schools, university buildings and hospitals. The bank is also the largest source of funding for housing association building programmes. Projects supported by the bank include the priority schools building programme, the northern powerhouse and Crossrail. The bank’s money is attractive because of the amount of money on offer for big projects and its rates of interest, which are often lower than government-backed loans. Its involvement can also attract additional private investmenf"
http://www.24housing.co.uk/news/brexit- ... l-housing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brexit ‘cuts off’ cash for social housing
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And this started some time ago - remember Blair's fondness for "tsars"??adam wrote:Interesting take on new political arrangements by Hugh Muir in the guardian
Why did Boris Johnson blow £940m? Because the system let him
This is the age of the administrative monarch. We are encouraged to place power and trust in individuals of purported unparalleled wisdom, vision and probity. Mayors, metro mayors, police commissioners, superheads; we outsource to individuals, increasing their power in the belief they will get things done, unencumbered by faint hearts and red tape.
By this thinking, democratic checks and balances are a bother. There can, in this political calibration, be some light-touch monitoring, but the monarch must have all the power. True democracy can be such a millstone.
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
Re: Tuesday 22nd August 2017
Good morfternoon.
God knows what's going on that we're not hearing about in this "don't spoon-feed the journalists" season.
God knows what's going on that we're not hearing about in this "don't spoon-feed the journalists" season.
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How are we all bearing up without it??RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Up at silly o'clock to accompany 'er indoors to the Royal London. No idea when her procedure is taking place so I'm playing a waiting game today.
I like this about yesterday's silliness.
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I'm live-tweeting the last chimes of Big Ben. Sombre atmos. People here bravely going about their business like somehow it doesn't matter.
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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I don't think I can stand it much longer. There's only so much flesh and blood can take.AnatolyKasparov wrote:How are we all bearing up without it??RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Up at silly o'clock to accompany 'er indoors to the Royal London. No idea when her procedure is taking place so I'm playing a waiting game today.
I like this about yesterday's silliness.
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I'm live-tweeting the last chimes of Big Ben. Sombre atmos. People here bravely going about their business like somehow it doesn't matter.
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Hello.
Even when Trump is gone, America might still be irredeemably f**ked.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... lle-215514" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Even when Trump is gone, America might still be irredeemably f**ked.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... lle-215514" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Hmm...that report on the benefits of Brexit from Patrick Minford?
She got a bit of stick for this...
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She got a bit of stick for this...
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How do the rich respond to higher income tax rates?
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How do the rich respond to higher income tax rates?
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I see Minford is smarting at the criticism he's got from that report and is responding by...insulting the critics.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:I see Minford is smarting at the criticism he's got from that report and is responding by...insulting the critics.
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He sounds rather Donald Trump-ish.
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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loud, screaming, straw-clutching in media today
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Rightly so.RogerOThornhill wrote:Hmm...that report on the benefits of Brexit from Patrick Minford?
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She got a bit of stick for this...
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tax-rebateTurnberry: Trump's golf hotel given £110,000 Scottish tax rebate
US president’s luxury resort benefits from scheme set up to help small businesses affected by economic slump (Guardian)
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Over in the US, a planned neo-Nazi burning of "degenerate literature" has been cancelled. The organiser complained of "freedom of speech" being curtailed.
Further comment is superfluous.
Further comment is superfluous.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... rror-wightAsda bins 10,000 bags for life after 'Isle of White' spelling error
Store had printed design featuring local children’s illustration to mark opening of branch in Newport, Isle of Wight (Guardian)
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Mind you, the local Asda here had (and probably still has) the word "Stationary" picked out in the stone-work. I did (nicely and politely) point it out to them (the manager) on quite a few occasions but they treated me like some potentially dangerous eccentric.
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Well it was also stationAry, I suppose
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well it was also stationAry, I suppose
Oddly enough, the lettering (giving a list of departments) was sited (and sighted) above the customer services desk - the queue for which was, usually, quite stationary!
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ay-doctorsPrison healthcare so bad it would be shut down on outside, say doctors
Doctors tell of understaffed services, with patients missing hospital appointments due to clerical errors or lack of escort (Guardian)
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And it seems that much hyped Tory "plans" to crack down on top pay excesses have now been shelved indefinitely.
Perish the thought all that "TANKS ON LABOUR'S LAWN" stuff was phoney all along, but maybe this also shows it was only Tim Nickothy who even remotely believed this stuff?
Perish the thought all that "TANKS ON LABOUR'S LAWN" stuff was phoney all along, but maybe this also shows it was only Tim Nickothy who even remotely believed this stuff?
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Rethinking Disabled Facilities Grants
Here we go:-
"Consideration of moving to a more suitable long-term home should be a key part of any new solution"
Rethinking Disabled Facilities Grants
Here we go:-
"Consideration of moving to a more suitable long-term home should be a key part of any new solution"
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Three pronged attack-only loan for homeowners,social care charge musings DFG encouragement to move to more "suitable"
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And he was hardly a policy expert. More what they call "policy flavours" in The Thick of It.AnatolyKasparov wrote:And it seems that much hyped Tory "plans" to crack down on top pay excesses have now been shelved indefinitely.
Perish the thought all that "TANKS ON LABOUR'S LAWN" stuff was phoney all along, but maybe this also shows it was only Tim Nickothy who even remotely believed this stuff?
Btw, who is this Osborne chap? I recall an "Iron Chancellor" by that name. But I'm thinking of this new fellow, wanting Keynesian investment in more high speed railways?
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Airports call for urgent post-Brexit deal on UK-EU flights
Owners of five major UK airports say uncertainty over future of flights is hitting passenger numbers hard, in report submitted to ministers
Airports call for urgent post-Brexit deal on UK-EU flights
Owners of five major UK airports say uncertainty over future of flights is hitting passenger numbers hard, in report submitted to ministers
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Ah yes, "woke" George Osborne. He always was slippery as an eel, mind.......Tubby Isaacs wrote:And he was hardly a policy expert. More what they call "policy flavours" in The Thick of It.AnatolyKasparov wrote:And it seems that much hyped Tory "plans" to crack down on top pay excesses have now been shelved indefinitely.
Perish the thought all that "TANKS ON LABOUR'S LAWN" stuff was phoney all along, but maybe this also shows it was only Tim Nickothy who even remotely believed this stuff?
Btw, who is this Osborne chap? I recall an "Iron Chancellor" by that name. But I'm thinking of this new fellow, wanting Keynesian investment in more high speed railways?
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UC breaches always better off in work,simple, make unavailable,loan with interest zero earnings or fuck all ,you thought contributions meant anything?Sucker.
Breach of DFG if move,simple,move first.
Know your place.
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Breach of DFG if move,simple,move first.
Know your place.
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I'm not sure about HS3 either.
HS2 is a project that's been put together over 8 years. HS3 seemed to spring fully formed from Osborne just before the 2015 election.
HS2 came about thus-
1) Is there another way of upgrading what we have?
2) Not really. So new line needed.
3) Might as well be high speed.
I don't know if 1 has been looked at properly. Could for instance a 125mph line with very few stops from Liverpool to Hull be built around what we have? More like Cardiff-Bristol- Swindon- Reading- London?
I've no argument at all with more rail spending in the North. IPPR North came up with a figure of £6bn per year underfunding of the North. Let's chop a bit off as Brexit tax, and go with £5bn, and see what can be done.
HS2 is a project that's been put together over 8 years. HS3 seemed to spring fully formed from Osborne just before the 2015 election.
HS2 came about thus-
1) Is there another way of upgrading what we have?
2) Not really. So new line needed.
3) Might as well be high speed.
I don't know if 1 has been looked at properly. Could for instance a 125mph line with very few stops from Liverpool to Hull be built around what we have? More like Cardiff-Bristol- Swindon- Reading- London?
I've no argument at all with more rail spending in the North. IPPR North came up with a figure of £6bn per year underfunding of the North. Let's chop a bit off as Brexit tax, and go with £5bn, and see what can be done.
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State Pension is an earnings replacement benefit of course,though maybe not wise to say that too much,they may decide to time limit,make loan recoup later in more broader terms than targeted.
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#J.Portes
UK has quietly borrowed extra *£100 billion* in last year not counted in deficit). Makes Lab manifesto look timid
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governme ... ector-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UK has quietly borrowed extra *£100 billion* in last year not counted in deficit). Makes Lab manifesto look timid
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governme ... ector-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yes, I saw that and thought I understood all the stuff about Quantitative Easing / Asset Purchase Facility...but having seen that I'm not sure I do now.HindleA wrote:#J.Portes
UK has quietly borrowed extra *£100 billion* in last year not counted in deficit). Makes Lab manifesto look timid
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governme ... ector-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Need to go away and have a think...
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Universal credit: ID issues with Irish passport
Universal credit: ID issues with Irish passport
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I hope the BBC cleared their Yemen piece with Fallon. Leading the news, wow.
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Let me know what you think. I'm not getting past opening links and being told I've used my quota of free articles. But I'd be struggling anyway.RogerOThornhill wrote:Yes, I saw that and thought I understood all the stuff about Quantitative Easing / Asset Purchase Facility...but having seen that I'm not sure I do now.HindleA wrote:#J.Portes
UK has quietly borrowed extra *£100 billion* in last year not counted in deficit). Makes Lab manifesto look timid
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governme ... ector-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Need to go away and have a think...
I've got that Carney set it up after the Referendum. But surely it can't be £100bn of government debt, can it?!
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Asset Purchase Facility. Of this £100.0 billion, £78.3 billion relates to the Term Funding Scheme (TFS).
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/ ... fault.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Why am I looking at at Interest rates since '75.