So, to add insult to injury, we get to pay extra for this?Paul Waugh
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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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No more details, as yet.No 10 says 1% cap on public sector pay rises being abandoned
The cabinet has agreed to end the public sector pay cap, Downing Street announced this morning.
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Well, there's this -
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Cabinet has agreed 1.7% pay rise for prison officers & 2% for police for 2017/18 and will show "flexibility" over pay from next year.
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A number 10 spokesperson said only yesterday that the cap would continue. Doing things on the hoof again?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not too much appreciation for this line in the commentsNonOxCol wrote:Oh, and fuck this "hot take". Hard.
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What is so good about him is his plausibility. We all know people like him, though there used to be more here abouts until departures for cosier environments.SpinningHugo wrote:AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not too much appreciation for this line in the commentsNonOxCol wrote:Oh, and fuck this "hot take". Hard.
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Karen Brady announces that she is to refer the Murdoch merger to the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA).
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Karen Bradley is "minded" to refer
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Karen Bradley is "minded" to refer
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Is this a cross between the relevant government minister and the vice-chair of West Ham FC?PorFavor wrote:Karen Brady announces that she is to refer the Murdoch merger to the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA).
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Wonder how much is due to the overnight release about teacher retention?AnatolyKasparov wrote:A number 10 spokesperson said only yesterday that the cap would continue. Doing things on the hoof again?
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Whoops! Karen Bradley!
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Seriously, why?
There have been proposals for a bypass that would take the main A303 trunk route well away from the Stonehenge site, allowing for a modern dual carriageway that the road desperately needs while the current road could remain with much reduced local traffic.
Why on earth are they spending a fortune on a giant tunnel with all the future maintenance costs? Not to mention the hidden archeology that could be destroyed. I just can't figure for whose benefit this decision has been made. Certainly not motorists heading from London to Cornwall who would be much better served by a bypass.
Unfathomable.
I mean, why?A tunnel past Stonehenge will be dug largely along the route of the existing A303, the government has announced.
Seriously, why?
There have been proposals for a bypass that would take the main A303 trunk route well away from the Stonehenge site, allowing for a modern dual carriageway that the road desperately needs while the current road could remain with much reduced local traffic.
Why on earth are they spending a fortune on a giant tunnel with all the future maintenance costs? Not to mention the hidden archeology that could be destroyed. I just can't figure for whose benefit this decision has been made. Certainly not motorists heading from London to Cornwall who would be much better served by a bypass.
Unfathomable.
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Booking for SH,please.
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Refs are very lenient here,the timing is despicable.
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Ten place grid penalty perhaps?
Or were you thinking more of a "stop/go"?
(Can't do football metaphors I'm afraid )
Or were you thinking more of a "stop/go"?
(Can't do football metaphors I'm afraid )
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I amazed myself by understanding AnatolyKasparov's post!Willow904 wrote:Ten place grid penalty perhaps?
Or were you thinking more of a "stop/go"?
(Can't do football metaphors I'm afraid )
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(Another like that then offski imho,he has been pushing it of late,given chosen bad timing to all but the nasty,should be a straight red but he will claim innocence in that regard I suspect)
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Lifting the cap: what are the key workforce challenges in prisons and policing?
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Same to you.
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Fans of CorbynSuperFan should also check out Burgon's interview on the Today programme, which I just caught up with. Utterly brilliant.
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Ian Dunt doesn't hold back. Very good piece:
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Andrew Sparrow at the G liveblog also has some good stuff, including the amendments to watch out for.Its supporters claim that critics have only just discovered their hatred of shadowy legislative mechanisms. After all, EU laws were regularly put straight on the statute book, either by being mainlined as an EU regulation or stitched-in as a directive.
This is the type of argument they use in school debating societies - one with superficial appeal but no substance. The reason those laws employed statutory instruments is because these were policy areas where the UK had agreed to pool sovereignty with Europe. The debates and the scrutiny had therefore taken place in Brussels. The legislation had been proposed by the Commission and then scrutinised by the European parliament, which is made up of MEPs directly elected by British and other European citizens, and the Council, which is made up of ministers and leaders from the elected parties of Britain and the rest of Europe.
To compare that with the grotty power-grab of a minority government in Westminster, staying in power via a shadowy deal with the DUP - which itself has not received parliamentary assent - and empowering ministers to make them into little Cadbury Mini Egg dictators, is laughable, dimwitted and profoundly cynical.
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Done. See above.HindleA wrote:Booking for SH,please.
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Budget 22nd November
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Lorraine Gradwell obituary
Pioneering campaigner for disability rights, forthright in defence of her principles
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In the same way that G4S is good value for money?
Hammond is now being asked about energy.
He says it remains the government’s view that the price being paid for energy from the new Hinkley Point nuclear power station will be good value for money. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Link to select committees if people want to see their "make up"
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UC update oral evidence 09.30 tomorrow DWP S.C.
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Let's have something different if we've got to do this thingHammond says he wants EU transition that looks 'a lot like the status quo'
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All the good socialist parts of contemporary Cuba
Study medicine or carpentry in the morning and work in the fields in the afternoon
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So the enormity of it all is sinking in?He [Philip Hammond] said Dover would not be able to cope if it had to start imposing customs checks from March 2019. Explaining why it was preferable to have a transition deal that involved no new customs checks at the EU border (ie, something akin to be being in the customs union), he said Dover would struggle even if it only had to carry out relatively quick checks. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Although, if I must, to be fair to Philip Hammond he's always said he had an inkling . . .
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Local housing allowance cuts are too deep for renters to work their way out
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Local housing allowance cuts are too deep for renters to work their way out
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I think you can get cream for that.
(45 minutes for you to decide to be "fair",or not.Impressed)
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... tax-havensSlow UK aid for hurricane-hit islands linked to tax haven ties
Anguilla’s ex-attorney general says UK government may fear exposing its role in Caribbean territories’ tax arrangements
Aid offered by the British government to its hurricane-battered territories in the Caribbean has been dismissed as “derisory” by a former attorney general of one of the worst-hit islands.
Rupert Jones, who completed a two-year posting to Anguilla last year, suggested the government’s reluctance to commit significant aid may be motivated by embarrassment over its role in sustaining tax havens in the region.
He pointed out that the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, who is expected to travel to Anguilla to highlight British aid efforts, had indicated that £28m of the aid had already been spent. “Are we to believe it will only release a further £4m? This would be derisory – it would not even pay to rebuild one school,” Jones wrote. (Guardian)
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Public services:Written statement
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Where Dems stand on Sanders's single-payer bill
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Went down town to the market, today,for some reason ....
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Can the football league season stop now?.
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This Severely Disabled Woman Says She's Being Denied Benefits Because She Is Too Unwell To Be Interviewed
This Severely Disabled Woman Says She's Being Denied Benefits Because She Is Too Unwell To Be Interviewed
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Supported housing is nostalgia and why (oh why!)
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The record of the Lord Chancellor
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You seem to have a beef,if not snobbery, about ways of expressing.I prefer to judge people by what they do or not do rather than how well they talk or perform in interviews.
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Can’t rely on London Midland:How staff cuts and technical failures dump on disabled passengers.
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Consultation
Reforming functional skills qualifications in English and maths
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Maths and English functional skills: revised subject content
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Reforming functional skills qualifications in English and maths
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Consultation outcome
Expanding CQC ratings to include independent healthcare providers
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Expanding CQC ratings to include independent healthcare providers
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Nomination of Members to Committees
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Opposition MPs accuse government of ‘constitutional outrage’ after successful motion on legislation on securing majorities on crucial committees
Nomination of Members to Committees
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Polite thuggery: that's the essence of the people who rule over us
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Polite thuggery: that's the essence of the people who rule over us
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Conservatives think they are civilised because they know how to pronounce Magdalene, as in Oxford or Cambridge, as “mawd-lin”; and they don’t feel weird saying the word “cummerbund”. But, just because they have minions carrying out their orders, that doesn’t elevate them above the ugly consequences of their vicious decisions. Doubling homelessness was a choice, the freezing weather will soon be here and more vulnerable people will die on our streets as a direct result of even colder-hearted decisions made by Conservative ministers. Maybe it’s just me, but I think leaving people to die is very, very rude."
Yet Labour MP Laura Pidcock was lambasted for saying that she could not be friends with the Conservatives who make these choices, as if she was the one who had somehow crossed a moral line. As if it’s all just a university debating club and parliamentarians of all sides are supposed to stagger out of Westminster restaurants laughing and joshing together; “Oh look, David, Theresa; did you put all those homeless people in that doorway? What are you guys like? Bedroom tax? Oh Iain, you’re trouble, you are! Cutting disability benefits? Damian, you’re a cheeky little monkey, that’s what you are!”
Remind me of the correct etiquette: do you pass the sick bag from left to right?
As long as we don’t get angry with them, that would be impolite; as long as good manners are maintained and we don’t mispronounce Jeremy Hunt’s surname. We will all be civilised about this, not get agitated about how uncivilised these thugs keep being. Meanwhile, metaphorically speaking, the whole cabinet continues to ride around on mopeds with their faces covered; they are going through red lights, mounting the pavement, doing wheelies and ripping handbags from the shoulders of the easiest targets. Theresa May should have a huge spider’s web tattoo on her neck; Boris Johnson should have a blond mohican and a studded leather jacket with “no future” written across the back. At least that would be more honest.
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Yet Labour MP Laura Pidcock was lambasted for saying that she could not be friends with the Conservatives who make these choices, as if she was the one who had somehow crossed a moral line. As if it’s all just a university debating club and parliamentarians of all sides are supposed to stagger out of Westminster restaurants laughing and joshing together; “Oh look, David, Theresa; did you put all those homeless people in that doorway? What are you guys like? Bedroom tax? Oh Iain, you’re trouble, you are! Cutting disability benefits? Damian, you’re a cheeky little monkey, that’s what you are!”
Remind me of the correct etiquette: do you pass the sick bag from left to right?
As long as we don’t get angry with them, that would be impolite; as long as good manners are maintained and we don’t mispronounce Jeremy Hunt’s surname. We will all be civilised about this, not get agitated about how uncivilised these thugs keep being. Meanwhile, metaphorically speaking, the whole cabinet continues to ride around on mopeds with their faces covered; they are going through red lights, mounting the pavement, doing wheelies and ripping handbags from the shoulders of the easiest targets. Theresa May should have a huge spider’s web tattoo on her neck; Boris Johnson should have a blond mohican and a studded leather jacket with “no future” written across the back. At least that would be more honest.
(Hi tinybgoat)