Wednesday, 13th September 2017
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Wednesday, 13th September 2017
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Wednesday 13th September 2017
Morning all.
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Morning.
Great thread.
I particularly liked this reply:
Great thread.
I particularly liked this reply:
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Oh and this one too:
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How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
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Weird. Your thread was the only one I saw as well. I was replying to your comment when the whole thing disappeared and I had to start again!RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
Meanwhile, CitizenJA is lost somewhere in Tuesday 12th September. Hopefully they'll catch up with us eventually.
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For some reason, my opening gambit got listed out of chronological order and appeared below yesterday's listing. I naturally thought it was a conspiracy . . .RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
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The DUP appears to be labouring under the delusion that this government can walk and chew gum at the same time. (I refer to the Lord Bridges thing over at Politics Live, Guardian.)
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That's because JA was still posting in yesterday so that was the most recent additionPorFavor wrote:For some reason, my opening gambit got listed out of chronological order and appeared below yesterday's listing. I naturally thought it was a conspiracy . . .RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
Id est it was all JA's fault! Only joking JA....
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Willow904 wrote:Weird. Your thread was the only one I saw as well. I was replying to your comment when the whole thing disappeared and I had to start again!RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
Meanwhile, CitizenJA is lost somewhere in Tuesday 12th September. Hopefully they'll catch up with us eventually.
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We've had disruptive neighbour activity within the citizen community
Mr citizen and I have had a couple nights of broken sleep
Mr citizen and I have had a couple nights of broken sleep
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“Homelessness in all its forms has significantly increased in recent years, driven by several factors. Despite this, government has not evaluated the impact of its reforms on this issue, and there remain gaps in its approach. It is difficult to understand why the Department persisted with its light touch approach in the face of such a visibly growing problem. Its recent performance in reducing homelessness therefore cannot be considered value for money”.
- Amyas Morse, head of the National Audit Office, 13 September 2017
https://www.nao.org.uk/report/homelessness/
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Is Montgomerie unaware of how ridiculous his 'unpatriotic news' accusation is? Is he serious?RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
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'Look at how much poverty costs!'
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I guessed that that might be the reason (that someone was still posting under Tuesday's banner - not that it was citizenJA's fault - though, of course, it was).PaulfromYorkshire wrote:That's because JA was still posting in yesterday so that was the most recent additionPorFavor wrote:For some reason, my opening gambit got listed out of chronological order and appeared below yesterday's listing. I naturally thought it was a conspiracy . . .RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
Id est it was all JA's fault! Only joking JA....
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I know it's obvious, but what a piece of shit Farage is.“This will be a very sad and tragic moment in our history, we will always regret this,” Juncker said before responding to heckling from Nigel Farage, by retorting: “I think you will regret this soon, I might say.”
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I may have merged the threads as well.
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This is good.
'Short on political cover, the MAT system already looks vulnerable'
https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... vulnerable
What is needed (but we probably won't get) is a serious strategic look at the whole "system" including LA responsibilities. The RSC system as Ed Durrell says was designed on the back of a fag packet, and if we're not careful it won't be a "school-led system" but one owned by the civil service.
'Short on political cover, the MAT system already looks vulnerable'
https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... vulnerable
As of now, only one third of schools are academies or free schools.The fact is that both May and Greening – May, especially – are risk-averse. And MATs with their oversight model based on the back-of-fag-packet RSCs and stretched Education and Skills Funding Agency are looking very, very politically risky at the moment.
Quite what they might do to mitigate this risk is anyone’s guess (and is likely to be as ad hoc as the RSCs) but there’s a good chance they will do something – especially if Lord Nash goes.
And especially if the terrible newspaper headlines keep coming – and if MAT bosses keep behaving like “masters of the universe”.
What is needed (but we probably won't get) is a serious strategic look at the whole "system" including LA responsibilities. The RSC system as Ed Durrell says was designed on the back of a fag packet, and if we're not careful it won't be a "school-led system" but one owned by the civil service.
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local welfare schemes in ‘meltdown’
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local welfare schemes in ‘meltdown’
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He knows that some people will believe it (or at least pretend to)citizenJA wrote:Is Montgomerie unaware of how ridiculous his 'unpatriotic news' accusation is? Is he serious?RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
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Fighting talk! Osborne won't rest til May "is chopped up in bags in my freezer", he's reportedly told allies.
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He ought to have greater care for his professional reputation, if nothing else. There was a time he wanted to be taken seriously.AnatolyKasparov wrote:He knows that some people will believe it (or at least pretend to)citizenJA wrote:Is Montgomerie unaware of how ridiculous his 'unpatriotic news' accusation is? Is he serious?RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
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Mind you if there is anybody out there who can make most people feel at least a smidge of sympathy for our PM, its Gidiot.
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A twitter feed view on May's forthcoming big speech...
Our intel is that May is going to announce in her speech that she's to give formal notice to leave the EEA.
Our intel is that May is going to announce in her speech that she's to give formal notice to leave the EEA.
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Theresa Mayniac.
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I'm listening to PMQs. Jeremy Corbyn is actually doing a good job of "thinking on his feet" today.
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I didn't understand any of that. Leave the EEA then ask the EEA not to be a single market any more so we can join it again?!!!adam wrote:A twitter feed view on May's forthcoming big speech...
Our intel is that May is going to announce in her speech that she's to give formal notice to leave the EEA.
WTF?
I suspect I've misunderstood, but still, I can't help wondering if Brexit was predicated on the idea that the EU would collapse if we left and we could throw our weight around and rebuild it in our (Tory spiv) image. We are talking about pretty mediocre thinkers puffed up well beyond their ability by our elitist public school system, after all.
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I'm not sure either - although possibly I do understand and what I understand is that it doesn't make sense - but I think the claim is that we can somehow sneakily start negotiating trade deals with individual EU nations, and bypass the EU's considered and consistent position on the shape of negotiations, by leaving the EEA early, and that the rest of the EU nations, or at least enough of them to make it worthwhile, will ignore the EU's position and go ahead with us.Willow904 wrote:I didn't understand any of that. Leave the EEA then ask the EEA not to be a single market any more so we can join it again?!!!adam wrote:A twitter feed view on May's forthcoming big speech...
Our intel is that May is going to announce in her speech that she's to give formal notice to leave the EEA.
WTF?
I suspect I've misunderstood, but still, I can't help wondering if Brexit was predicated on the idea that the EU would collapse if we left and we could throw our weight around and rebuild it in our (Tory spiv) image. We are talking about pretty mediocre thinkers puffed up well beyond their ability by our elitist public school system, after all.
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The Independent seems to have some slightly different, rather less batty "intel":
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It is thought Ms May is preparing to try to reassure business and Brussels by setting out that any transitional agreement must be “as close as possible” to current relations with the EU.
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That brilliant wheeze is reportedly the idea of Legatum, one of the favourite Brexiteer "thinktanks".adam wrote:A twitter feed view on May's forthcoming big speech...
Our intel is that May is going to announce in her speech that she's to give formal notice to leave the EEA.
Their latest bright idea is apparently - wait for it! - airships patrolling the UK/RoI border
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Legatum is where Phillipa Stroud is now as CEO...which tells you all you need to know about them. Oh, and Matthew Elliot and Christina Odone...
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ition-feesDUP plans to vote with Labour on NHS pay and tuition fees
A DUP source confirmed the party’s MPs would vote for two opposition day motions tabled by Labour. The votes are believed to be non-binding and therefore fall outside the DUP’s confidence and supply agreement with Theresa May’s party. (Guardian)
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It won't really change anything as pointed out, but still interesting.
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Well this is good news...
DfE won’t fund Toby Young and Sir Anthony Seldon’s fast-track headship college
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/exclusive-dfe- ... p-college/
DfE won’t fund Toby Young and Sir Anthony Seldon’s fast-track headship college
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/exclusive-dfe- ... p-college/
My opinion of one is well known - the other seems to have a reputation way beyond his actual intellect. Seldon comes out with some remarkable guff.The free schools advocate Toby Young and former top headteacher Sir Anthony Seldon were “in talks with ministers” in April last year about a college that would parachute promising candidates straight into headship positions after at least one year’s intensive training.
Their grand plans have now stalled, however, because the DfE has turned down their request for £10 million from the Teaching and Leadership Innovation Fund.
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Netanyahu's son Yair draws fire after posting 'antisemitic cartoon'
Netanyahu's son Yair draws fire after posting 'antisemitic cartoon'
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Bernie Sanders unveils universal healthcare bill: 'We will win this struggle'
Bernie Sanders unveils universal healthcare bill: 'We will win this struggle'
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Sharma refuses request for help funding sprinklers in high rises
Sharma refuses request for help funding sprinklers in high rises
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I was in travel limbo most of yesterday so I don't know if you had these, the second one is a good explainer on EFTA/EEA.
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UC (June)
Single childless 408,772
Single child 65,569
Couple no child 7,784
Couple child 23,395
Housing(total) 236,875
LCW 12,328
Carer 13,283
Single childless 408,772
Single child 65,569
Couple no child 7,784
Couple child 23,395
Housing(total) 236,875
LCW 12,328
Carer 13,283
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Yeah. And the rest.General election cost taxpayer £141m, government reveals (Politics Live, Guardian)
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democracy is expensivePorFavor wrote:Yeah. And the rest.General election cost taxpayer £141m, government reveals (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Especially when a deal with the DUP is involved!citizenJA wrote:democracy is expensivePorFavor wrote:Yeah. And the rest.General election cost taxpayer £141m, government reveals (Politics Live, Guardian)
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I wouldn't mind, but for the past decade the Tories have constantly told us there is no money.......
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Yes. Regularly repeat that every quarter of an hour within the hearing of every single Tory government MP... 'living within our means'...AnatolyKasparov wrote:I wouldn't mind, but for the past decade the Tories have constantly told us there is no money.......
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can someone get me a cup of tea, please?
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For those who still need convincing, pop over to Politics Live (Guardian) where there's the new Metro-Goldwyn-May-er release for your delight and delectation -
Downing Street has released a video intended to show the government is making good progress towards Brexit. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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I weary of trying to decipher Tory government's concoctionsPolice Federation accuses May of lying about police pay at PMQs
"May told MPs that, if you take into account progression pay, pay rises and the increase in the income tax threshold,
someone who was a new police officer in 2010 will have seen their post-tax pay increase by £9,000, a real-terms rise of 32%."
What does she mean?
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Thank you!citizenJA wrote:can someone get me a cup of tea, please?