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Morning
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/s ... SApp_Other" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Why we need the welfare state more than ever
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Morning.
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Equal Lives Member hit with Benefit Sanctions whilst in Hospital
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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... embly-2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



St.Theresa's speech to the UN General Assembly 2017
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https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017 ... yone-elses" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Access denied: wheelchair metro maps versus everyone else's
From Paris to New York, we’ve matched metro maps against versions that only include fully accessible stations. The results are discouraging – but are any cities doing it right?
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Good morfternoon.
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/graham-ca ... ?r=US&IR=T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The GOP's furious push to pass a new healthcare bill to destroy Obamacare is coming into focus
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Morning PF did you manage to get rid of/hide the empties?


A particularly heavy session(even for you),according to my "sources"
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Some particularly awful proposals in the Graham Cassidy Heller Johnson proposals.Some debate about pre existing conditions.Possible coverage doesn't mean beyond means and inaccessibe in reality.
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https://labourlist.org/2017/09/labours- ... ec-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Labour’s democracy review, leadership elections and the 76 target seats – Alice Perry’s latest NEC report
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http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... ruggle-win" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


As long as the Tories fail to solve the housing crisis, they will struggle to win
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Nursing a buddleia injury.Will not divulge in what area.Vicious bastards.Should have come with a warning.
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The "spring back" was timed and placed with some precision.
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Particularly given not a lot to aim at.If there is a way to hurt myself,I'll find it.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... od-schools" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Consultation outcome
Short inspections of good schools


Then another one:-


https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... -academies" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Open consultation
Short inspections of good schools: maintained schools and academies
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https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... ncial-year" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Local authority (LA) spending plans for education, children's services and social care.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... mmendation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Decision
Osborne, George, Chancellor of the Exchequer, HM Treasury - ACOBA recommendation
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http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analy ... a-disaster" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Chris Grayling's probation reforms have been a disaster for the service
As widely predicted.

The MSM barely covered the privatisation of probation services. The failure of privatised probation services have been studiously ignored. The lack of government scrutiny and accountability these days is one of the most alarming things about the return to Tory rule. They are supposedly all about reducing spending yet the press makes no comment when their reforms end up costing us more. Maybe I have a faulty memory, but I swear they got rougher ride from the press the last time they were in power, though never as rough as Labour of course.
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Electoral Reform Society release analysis of voting, speaking and expenses records in the Lords
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Bit late in the course of proceedings to have a Cabinet meeting on our EU leave position. Surely this should have been going on since Theresa May took office. Certainly it should have happened long before the day preceding the speech.

I suppose I'll just have to wait for the inevitable leaks for an update.
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Bit late in the course of proceedings to have a Cabinet meeting on our EU leave position. Surely this should have been going on since Theresa May took office. Certainly it should have happened long before the day preceding the speech.

I suppose I'll just have to wait for the inevitable leaks for an update.
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Whoops - sorry.
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According to Sky’s Adam Boulton, Boris Johnson’s six-hour transatlantic ‘make-up’ summit with Theresa May on the plane back to the UK didn’t amount to much. She told him she wanted to get some sleep, Boulton claimed. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Willow904 wrote:http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analy ... a-disaster
Chris Grayling's probation reforms have been a disaster for the service
As widely predicted.

The MSM barely covered the privatisation of probation services. The failure of privatised probation services have been studiously ignored. The lack of government scrutiny and accountability these days is one of the most alarming things about the return to Tory rule. They are supposedly all about reducing spending yet the press makes no comment when their reforms end up costing us more. Maybe I have a faulty memory, but I swear they got rougher ride from the press the last time they were in power, though never as rough as Labour of course.
Probation is always seen as a secondary issue, sadly, because it's not as tough as prison and cops. Labour had a nod towards privatization of poor performing areas, collecting bids- "contestability", as it was called, a less awkward word than "market testing" which is what they called it when they did that with prisons. They never followed through with a privatizing prison, IIRC. I visited Strangeways with work when it was about to be market tested, and I assume this focussed the governors and enough improvements were made to satisfy the Home Secretary (as it was then).

New Labour at least understood you couldn't build an entire system around privatizing, which is an important difference from the Tories.
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This line really just about sums up what we are expected to, er, expect so far as intelligent political discourse with and from the Government, is concerned.





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“We are not going to mix up models,” Barnier has said, according to people who have heard his most recent stump speech, in which he refers to existing EU arrangements with Turkey, Norway and others. “But each model is available.”

This is significant because May, when asked if she favours the Norway option, or the Switzerland option, or the Canada option, repeatedly says that she wants a bespoke British option, not something off-the-shelf. She said the same thing again only three days ago in Canada.
From the G live blog.

Of course May's basic problem is that there isn't any option that is better than EU membership. If you're starting from nothing, as other countries have done, something is better than nothing. But we're going from everything to either something or nothing. The only token "win" available is the totem of complete immigration control, but we are taking no practical steps to make that a reality, so what does that leave? A desperate hope that the UK's hard bargaining will inspire other EU members to question and reject the EU status quo? I think the EU are right to worry that the UK's aim is to try to undermine the EU from the outside. Goodness knows we tried hard enough to undermine it from the inside.
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Benefits assessor sanctioned for mocking disabled claimant.
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Universal credit risks driving working single parents into debt, warns new report

https://gingerbread.org.uk/content/1813 ... -the-price" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Nambia,Gerance,Switzerstein etc.
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PorFavor wrote:
According to Sky’s Adam Boulton, Boris Johnson’s six-hour transatlantic ‘make-up’ summit with Theresa May on the plane back to the UK didn’t amount to much. She told him she wanted to get some sleep, Boulton claimed. (Politics Live, Guardian)
If true, then she deserves some credit for once :lol:
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Britain could face new winter of discontent as families grow weary of trying to make ends meet – report

http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/schools/soc ... ntent.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Responding to the findings, a Treasury spokesperson said: “We realise some families are concerned about their daily cost of living.

“That is why insert irrelevant bollox "
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Jackie Baillie kicks Richard Murphy's recently-converted Scottish Nationalist arse very hard. You can see why Jez gave up on him.
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HindleA wrote:Nambia,Gerance,Switzerstein etc.
Nambia's tourism trade has soared since it got its namecheck at the UN.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Jackie Baillie kicks Richard Murphy's recently-converted Scottish Nationalist arse very hard. You can see why Jez gave up on him.
He's basically an accountant, whilst he is doubtless very good at that it isn't the same thing as an economist.
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Theresa May is going to give her speech at the Santa Maria Novella church in Florence, it has revealed. (Politics Live, Guardian)
If wet, in church hall.



(I'm assuming the "it has revealed" is an Andrew Sparrow typo - but who knows?)
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Jackie Baillie kicks Richard Murphy's recently-converted Scottish Nationalist arse very hard. You can see why Jez gave up on him.
He's basically an accountant, whilst he is doubtless very good at that it isn't the same thing as an economist.
Yeah, way out of his depth. He's not even got a tax qualification, as lots of accountants have.
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Getting on for three hours now.

It must be like "Twelve Angry Men" in there.
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RIP Sir Teddy Taylor. Despite his politics being very different from my own.
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Willow904 wrote:Getting on for three hours now.

It must be like "Twelve Angry Men" in there.
Apparently, it's just finished.
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Spoke too soon.

Hurrah! They're done.

We have a Brexit speech, people.
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Slightly stepping on toes but one local election caused by S.Hitchin resigning,he also pulled out of trying to be the Labour candidate for Stoke,only mention because of CJA link.
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Toby Nangle‏ @toby_n
UBS survey (14/7-31/8) of 1,200 Eurozone corporates (79% of which have UK investments): 43% expect to cut UK capacity as a result of Brexit.
11:38 PM - 20 Sep 2017

Toby Nangle‏ @toby_n 5h5 hours ago
Replying to @toby_n
15% of firms surveyed anticipated removing *all* their capacity, 28% 'a large amount'.
This is grim stuff.
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Cathcart,I thought he was older(or far more likely I forget that I am "getting"older)
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Peter Walker‏Verified account @peterwalker99
Almost at 2hrs for cabinet now, and Bernard Jenkin has arrived at No10. Maybe he needs to settle a dispute, or referee the arm wrestling.
As others have pointed out, this is not a man you want to be showing up to Cabinet meetings.
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That doesn't even make sense but at least I am consistent.
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I got the Cathcart reference, eventually.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:

Jackie Baillie kicks Richard Murphy's recently-converted Scottish Nationalist arse very hard. You can see why Jez gave up on him.
He's basically an accountant, whilst he is doubtless very good at that it isn't the same thing as an economist.
Yeah, way out of his depth. He's not even got a tax qualification, as lots of accountants have.

Quite.

Which is why people of the left, including JC, who thought he was credible now look like fools.
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HindleA wrote:Cathcart,I thought he was older(or far more likely I forget that I am "getting"older)
"Baby Of The House" when first elected in 1964. He had stood, aged just 22, in the 1959 GE as well.
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