Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Q.Am I showing signs of grumpy oldgititis by being annoyed at bin placements blocking my drive even though I haven't got a car? Not that I get many visitors or many of then park there but it has been known.
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Of course I could easlly move them.....
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(Definately black and burgundy)
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Also left pavement unusable by w/c/prams,don't they have lessons any more on these issues of national import?.
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"Bin placement monitor"
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""Bottom line, all govt. grants, incl the General (DfE) Grant, Local Authority Grant and, (for some reason only separated out in 2016), the capital grant is £53,506,076.00.
Divide by 5 for a per annum average figure = £10,701,215.20
Divide by 600 for a per pupil per annum figure* – £17,835.36
(Although I think it has only been past 2 years that they have had full capacity of 600, so I was being ultra-generous to Toby in my assumption there).""
""Bottom line, all govt. grants, incl the General (DfE) Grant, Local Authority Grant and, (for some reason only separated out in 2016), the capital grant is £53,506,076.00.
Divide by 5 for a per annum average figure = £10,701,215.20
Divide by 600 for a per pupil per annum figure* – £17,835.36
(Although I think it has only been past 2 years that they have had full capacity of 600, so I was being ultra-generous to Toby in my assumption there).""
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Morning all.
The story so far...The Times printed an article saying the old passport was nothing like the colour of the new one in that it was black.
Home Office, in an extremely testy response, state that it was never black.
However...
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The story so far...The Times printed an article saying the old passport was nothing like the colour of the new one in that it was black.
Home Office, in an extremely testy response, state that it was never black.
However...
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Oh dear. The official new Government online passport application service also refers to a picture of the old passport as “black” or blue - it is truly Orwellian to suggest “never been black” - it’s literally on the form.
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From a 2006 Guardian article A brief history of the passportIt was in the early 20th century that passports as we would recognise them today began to be used. The first modern British passport, the product of the British Nationality and Status Aliens Act 1914, consisted of a single page, folded into eight and held together with a cardboard cover. It was valid for two years and, as well as a photograph and signature, featured a personal description, including details such as "shape of face", "complexion" and "features". The entry on this last category might read something like: "Forehead: broad. Nose: large. Eyes: small." Remarkably, some travellers claimed to find this dehumanising. Following an agreement among the League of Nations to standardise passports, the famous "old blue" was issued in 1920. Apart from a few adjustments to its duration and security features, the old blue remained a steady symbol of the touring Briton until it gradually began to be replaced by the burgundy-coloured European version in 1988.
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OK, library.
Catch you later.
Catch you later.
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HM Passport Office issued leaflet "Applying for a passport" refers to "old blue " as above ie.the term they use,they say it was blue.I think it was the dye they used;so it isn't burgundy it is red....
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Interesting thread here on constitutional matters:
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Interesting thread here on constitutional matters:
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The general gist is that the government's voluntary choice to not start another Parliament until after March 2019 has removed the option of using the Parliaments Act to force through Brexit legislation. However, because the Parliaments Act is available and it was the government's choice to forgo the opportunity to use it, asking the Queen to make peers to get legislation through the Lords could prove a huge constitutional grey area - it would likely be challengeable legally.George Peretz QC
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I'm sure you're right that they were referred to as blue because of the dye used, but it is nevertheless hilarious that the government should excitedly declare we are getting "blue" passports back that no one can actually remember being blue, rather than "British" ones because, of course, they can't say that because they never stopped being British in the first place. It just so beautifully sums up how difficult it is for the government to triumphantly "take back" stuff we never actually lost.HindleA wrote:HM Passport Office issued leaflet "Applying for a passport" refers to "old blue " as above ie.the term they use,they say it was blue.I think it was the dye they used;so it isn't burgundy it is red....
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Just thinking, and I should probably know this, but what happened to Eoin Clarke?
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The point I failed to make above was that our sovereign-defining goodgoodwe'rebritish passports that we've fought for the right to get back were imposed upon us by an international organisation demanding that certain standards be met and over-ruling national sovereignty.
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Good post. Yes, we never lost sovereignty, we just shared it.Willow904 wrote:I'm sure you're right that they were referred to as blue because of the dye used, but it is nevertheless hilarious that the government should excitedly declare we are getting "blue" passports back that no one can actually remember being blue, rather than "British" ones because, of course, they can't say that because they never stopped being British in the first place. It just so beautifully sums up how difficult it is for the government to triumphantly "take back" stuff we never actually lost.HindleA wrote:HM Passport Office issued leaflet "Applying for a passport" refers to "old blue " as above ie.the term they use,they say it was blue.I think it was the dye they used;so it isn't burgundy it is red....
If we do manage to stay in the EU, it would be good to introduce something into the National Curriculum to help young people understand this, rather than allowing the press to distort it so badly.
Who would now believe that the creation of the Single Market and the expansion to the East were seen at the time as "wins" for the UK?
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Oh well, as long as the passports still got that nice motto in old French on the front.
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"The incredible shrinking Britain"
"The incredible shrinking Britain"
Perhaps Brexit is not the moment for British politicians to admit they are swimming against inevitable tides of geopolitics. People busy recreating the past rarely have viable ideas for the nation’s future.
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Labour has demanded Theresa May reverse the appointment of Toby Young to the board of the new universities regulator because of what it said was a history of “ homophobia and misogyny ”.
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Interesting time line :
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Time to demand that @toadmeister is removed from his regulator post and for academics & university staff and unions to refuse to meet with him or cooperate with him because of the disgraceful things he has said about disabled children & equality he is totally unfit & unqualified
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Time to demand that @toadmeister is removed from his regulator post and for academics & university staff and unions to refuse to meet with him or cooperate with him because of the disgraceful things he has said about disabled children & equality he is totally unfit & unqualified
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Sees to have deleted his twitter accountPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Just thinking, and I should probably know this, but what happened to Eoin Clarke?
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He blocked me ages ago.
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Bin update.
Windy here,some are talking to each other,discarding contents and even falling over,so I have tidied up and repositioned.I think people have got the wrong day,definately for black as Monday was a B/H and it usually goes to the next day than usual(ie.tomorrow)Being on my todd,even with a smaller bin I only need to put it out about once a month.
Windy here,some are talking to each other,discarding contents and even falling over,so I have tidied up and repositioned.I think people have got the wrong day,definately for black as Monday was a B/H and it usually goes to the next day than usual(ie.tomorrow)Being on my todd,even with a smaller bin I only need to put it out about once a month.
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We're all wrong, you know. Here's the proof -
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/ ... is-johnsonToby Young is ideal man for university watchdog, says Boris Johnson
Foreign secretary backs controversial appointment, as government is criticised for exaggerating Young’s qualification (Guardian)
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Good morfternoon.
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Kathy Burke's reply to Boris:PorFavor wrote:We're all wrong, you know. Here's the proof -
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Brackets - (see post above).
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Remarkable that UK pundits don't seem to have clocked that TPP isn't even a stable framework. The US has walked out. The Canadians show signs of backing out. The Japanese are struggling to keep it going. The Australians are sceptical. And the Chinese are working to subvert it
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Remarkable that UK pundits don't seem to have clocked that TPP isn't even a stable framework. The US has walked out. The Canadians show signs of backing out. The Japanese are struggling to keep it going. The Australians are sceptical. And the Chinese are working to subvert it
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Semi joking about bin placement,it really is a pain in the arse and/or hazard given the slalom pavement road/thing and cars parked on pavements,wazzocks who clear the road by piling snow on the pavements,people that block do not put luggage here areas ......continued on page 92
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Do you know Nil By Mouth?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Always liked Kathy Burke tbh
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Great movie.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Do you know Nil By Mouth?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Always liked Kathy Burke tbh
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A good piece in the guardian on trump and Israel
Why Trump’s funding threat to Palestinians is even more dangerous than Jerusalem move
Why Trump’s funding threat to Palestinians is even more dangerous than Jerusalem move
Although the article doesn't dare make the obvious next step, which is that wrecking the peace process is the entire point of all of this. He doesn't want to maintain or develop peace in the middle east, he wants Israel to win on its own terms.His speech recognising Jerusalem as the Israeli capital breached international consensus and UN resolutions. But the latest move – a threat to cut funding to UNRWA, the UN agency that supports Palestinian refugees, and to the Palestinian Authority – is more dangerous still, demonstrating a lack of understanding of the delicate mechanics that help maintain relative peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
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And in a good example of having people inside the tent pissing out instead of outside pissing in...
Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book
Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book
Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.
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"Burke won the Best Actress award at the 1997 Cannes Film Festival for her role in the gritty drama Nil by Mouth. Burke was so convinced she would not win that she made no plans to attend the ceremony; when told shortly beforehand she had won, she found her passport was out of date"
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... and decidedly blackHindleA wrote:"Burke won the Best Actress award at the 1997 Cannes Film Festival for her role in the gritty drama Nil by Mouth. Burke was so convinced she would not win that she made no plans to attend the ceremony; when told shortly beforehand she had won, she found her passport was out of date"
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Of course !
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Toby on deleting tweets and not judging him by his record
He's 54 years old. He joined Twitter eight years ago. Calling his now deleted tweets 'sophomoric' is cowardly nonsense - this isn't some rubbish he was banging out at 2am when he was a nineteen year old undergraduate.
.Here’s what Toby was saying about his tweets yesterday:
I’ve composed over 56,000 tweets and, if someone is prepared to spend hours trawling through them, it’s not altogether surprising if they come up with a few sophomoric, politically incorrect remarks. I regret these, obviously. I hope people will judge me on my actions, not on silly things I’ve tweeted or written in my 30-year career as a journalist
He's 54 years old. He joined Twitter eight years ago. Calling his now deleted tweets 'sophomoric' is cowardly nonsense - this isn't some rubbish he was banging out at 2am when he was a nineteen year old undergraduate.
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And some of them would embarrass even your average sophomore......
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BFI abandons plans for £130m national centre for film and television
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Very good indeed
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and also
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Pandering, empty, ill-thought out policies.
Still, who needs a decent opposition when we can have toby Young in charge of Universities?
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and also
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Pandering, empty, ill-thought out policies.
Still, who needs a decent opposition when we can have toby Young in charge of Universities?
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... al-weddingWindsor council leader calls for removal of homeless before royal wedding
Council’s Tory leader Simon Dudley is demanding police use legal powers to clear the area of homeless people by 19 May (Guardian)
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Bush is decent as usual, Walker is terrible - patronising and condescending when the case they are making is far from proven.
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Not much here that wasn't covered in yesterday's FTN discussions.SpinningHugo wrote:Very good indeed
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Pandering, empty, ill-thought out policies.
Still, who needs a decent opposition when we can have toby Young in charge of Universities?
Except that you use it as an opportunity to have a dig at Corbyn. Why bother? We all know your agenda!
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I do not know who is the sadder character...Hugo or Toby?