SpinningHugo wrote:Tubby Isaacs wrote:An article in the FT suggest using the NHS much more as anti-Brexit argument. I like that, but it's going to be difficult.
I don't think people see the connecti0on. You see the reaction it gets on here. People don't want to know.
O_nly the oppostion coould sell it, and they don't want to do so.
Go on then.......tell me why I should make Brexit responsible for the current state of the NHS rather than the Tories.....I am listening
It was not long ago that the EU were ready to sign a deal with the USA that we were saying would undermine the NHS and now we are saying leaving will do the same.
The NHS is in a mess because the Tories have undermined the advances made during the last Labour Government in an ideological attempt to open it up to privatisation. Yes, Brexit will cause EU nurses and doctors to leave - but is that any more of an issue than removing bursaries. Yes, inflation due to a depreciating currency will make the NHS more expensive but I think arguing that 3-4% inflation is unacceptable is economically difficult to justify - or do we want a deflationary world?
Do you not think the wage freeze has done anything to cause the problems with recruitment
By blaming Brexit you allow the Tories to get off the hook. The opposition have been talking about the NHS but they have made the decision to use it just as a lever for opposing Brexit rather than in its own right would be counter-productive. I happen to agree. Where Brexit causes issues for the NHS they have been bringing those arguments forward - losing the nurses, risk of selling to the US health industry - but we have to be honest a lot of people don't really care, no matter what they say - if they did we wouldn't have a Tory Government
Personally, I find the messages that come from some Remainers confusing and unfocused. I am still not sure what constitutes a consensus on 'soft Brexit' as there are different opinions which have different problems to overcome