Was looking in this morning and saw this comment from last night
I would just like to answer to this as I am getting a little concerned those who voted Remain are starting to sound a little like Brexiteers throwing slogans and threats about trying to force thingsWhat's it going to be then, eh?
In the single market or out? Are we with those Labour MP's calling for clarity or are we sitting on the fence hoping for the best?
Because I'll not vote Labour at the next GE if this nonsense continues. And I won't be alone.
In Single Market or Out? What does this mean in practice, EEA?. If so, do we stay in the EEA or not? No mention of the CU so what does that mean
Clarity or Fence Sitting unless you have all the answers to a position you are taking and ready to give them why create a hostage to fortune? Why is it imperative for Labour to set out their position now when they have no part in the delivering the solution at the moment? We have been told this since June 23rd 20176 but 18 months later Labour there does not appear to be that much of an issue created by it. As someone stated yesterday all the options are pretty bad so why would anyone want Labour to announce they support a 'bad option' and allow the media to focus on them, whilst the Tories just continue to throw out impossible to achieve slogans. The difference being the Tories actually have to deliver Something whereas Labour don't at the moment
GE vote At the moment 2021 or 2022 so a pretty empty threat. There is a lot of change going to happen before next GE. If May calls another snap election (do we think she will) or DUP pull the plug (not imminent) then it is a fair question
This just annoys - I find your position to be nonsense from where I sitNonsense
If Labour say SM/CU which seems to be the favourite then they will immediately be asked some of the following questions. I have asked the same questions and have never received a response
What do you mean by 'Single Market' - EEA, EFTA+bilaterals, separate treaty?
If EEA then do we become a member of EEA or have a separate treaty that starts off the same. How will that be managed?
What do we mean by 'in the CU' - is is the same one as now, does it have exemptions?
The minute Labour set out a position SM/CU then there will be a demand to know what it means - even more than their collective ambiguity now. In fact we are asking Labour to be more precise than the Government has been
And the final point - to me the most important
In the referendum campaign Farage made it sound like we were dictated to by the EU. This argument resonated and was a pillar of the Leave vote. It was a lie as we are a member of the club and we are fully involved in the decision making. There is no democratic deficit there
If we stay in EEA (an assumption) and a CU very similar to now but outside the EU then his argument has merit. We will be dictated to (far more than any other non-EU country as Norway is not in the CU) with no say. I, myself, find it difficult to agree to be subject to the rules of a club that contains people close to fascists and where the 70 million population of the UK does not have a say
The only way I see this SM/CU option delivered sustainably is by staying in. Labour has already committed to it for transition. If we can do it from outside then I am interested in how we sell that.
The SM/CU solution is gaining traction but I am not sure all those saying the like it understand the implications. If you put it in terms of what we have now but no say on the rules but subject to them all then would it be so popular?
I keep asking whether I am being dense and missing something - if I am tell me - but no-one does. It is all SM/CU is a no-brainer....