Thursday 25th January 2018
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Thursday 25th January 2018
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Department for Education launches Commonwealth education pack
Department for Education launches Commonwealth education pack
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For example, Southmead hospital in Bristol has recently faced shortages of equipment including syringe drivers – which staff use to give drugs to dying patients – drip stands, infusion pumps – which ensure patients receive correct doses of fluids and medication – oxygen cylinders, and pressure-relieving mattresses, which help to prevent bed sores. ""HindleA wrote:Morning
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Take your own face-masks (B&Q), pillow, loo paper ...
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That was last Monday, the dictator of Kazakhstan came to the WH the next day .
Yesterday's Morning Joe on MSNBC --
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A Day Of Revelations In The Russia Probe’ | Morning Joe | MSNBC
If we are subject to WTO Rules, is it a Loss of Sovereignty ?
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That was last Monday, the dictator of Kazakhstan came to the WH the next day .
Yesterday's Morning Joe on MSNBC --
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A Day Of Revelations In The Russia Probe’ | Morning Joe | MSNBC
If we are subject to WTO Rules, is it a Loss of Sovereignty ?
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As an aside about labour selection processes, I read this in Labour list...
Former Army Doctor Beats Staunch Corbyn Supporter In Shrewsbury Selection
... which is so innacurate - not at the core but in the detail - that I wonder how reasonable any of the reporting about selection is. Laura Davies was the candidate in 2015 and 17 and did win again this time, and Nicki Clarke did have support from Jess Phillips and Dianne Abbot and did lose, but the article doesn't mention either that Nicki clarke came a distant third, with fewer than 10 votes, that Laura won with about 120 and that in second with about 80 was a momentum-supported candidate, and also doesn't mention that Laura in her campaign material cited support from Birmingham momentum, and was strongly supportive of the party leadership in a way that she was fairly silent on in 2017.
Former Army Doctor Beats Staunch Corbyn Supporter In Shrewsbury Selection
... which is so innacurate - not at the core but in the detail - that I wonder how reasonable any of the reporting about selection is. Laura Davies was the candidate in 2015 and 17 and did win again this time, and Nicki Clarke did have support from Jess Phillips and Dianne Abbot and did lose, but the article doesn't mention either that Nicki clarke came a distant third, with fewer than 10 votes, that Laura won with about 120 and that in second with about 80 was a momentum-supported candidate, and also doesn't mention that Laura in her campaign material cited support from Birmingham momentum, and was strongly supportive of the party leadership in a way that she was fairly silent on in 2017.
I still believe in a town called Hope
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Bex Bailey just called around
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Not sure what she made of the blue dressing gown.Good twenty five minute discussion on local,national and history,social care,she is going to look up Alf Morris.
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10 th February vote,now down to three.
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And my late uncle's velcro fastening slippers a size too big and somewhat frayed.
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In my defence I had just finished a twelve hour shift and middle of eating Spaghetti Carbonara.
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Which could have played havoc with the velcro.HindleA wrote:In my defence I had just finished a twelve hour shift and middle of eating Spaghetti Carbonara.
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I don't get many visitors for some unexplicable reason,she was very tolerant/needs my vote given my meandering nonsense and behaviour I offered her a roll up (declined) for some reason.
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I was born there!frog222 wrote:For example, Southmead hospital in Bristol has recently faced shortages of equipment including syringe drivers – which staff use to give drugs to dying patients – drip stands, infusion pumps – which ensure patients receive correct doses of fluids and medication – oxygen cylinders, and pressure-relieving mattresses, which help to prevent bed sores. ""HindleA wrote:Morning
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Take your own face-masks (B&Q), pillow, loo paper ...
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Someone will presumably notice a slight inconsistency
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Is there just a proprietary feeling about anywhere else in the country you like the look of?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Someone will presumably notice a slight inconsistency
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The general tone of LL's reporting of selections does leave a bit to be desired.adam wrote:As an aside about labour selection processes, I read this in Labour list...
Former Army Doctor Beats Staunch Corbyn Supporter In Shrewsbury Selection
... which is so innacurate - not at the core but in the detail - that I wonder how reasonable any of the reporting about selection is. Laura Davies was the candidate in 2015 and 17 and did win again this time, and Nicki Clarke did have support from Jess Phillips and Dianne Abbot and did lose, but the article doesn't mention either that Nicki clarke came a distant third, with fewer than 10 votes, that Laura won with about 120 and that in second with about 80 was a momentum-supported candidate, and also doesn't mention that Laura in her campaign material cited support from Birmingham momentum, and was strongly supportive of the party leadership in a way that she was fairly silent on in 2017.
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Universal credit 'poses a risk to public spending control due to information gaps.'
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Good-morning, everyone
Just a quick hello
It's a gorgeous day
Unfortunately, I'm not feeling very well
Just a quick hello
It's a gorgeous day
Unfortunately, I'm not feeling very well
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Good morfternoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... efits-cutsUniversal credit to save taxpayers just 2% in spite of benefit cuts
Welfare scheme a ‘significant risk’ to public spending, warns Office for Budget Responsibility
Universal credit is on course to deliver only marginal taxpayer savings despite driving through huge cuts in benefit payments to many claimants, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR). (Guardian)
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Well,given the atrocious,contrary to the propaganda,lack of take up of what people are actually entitled to,jsa is peanuts and only just over half perfectly entitled have bothered to claim it for some time
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Doesn't include Offset costs homelessness,dhp's,increased local authority/NHS costs -the thirty quid removal on not necessary popping your clogs quickly enough alone,you can multiply by 3 in increased costs at bare minimum.
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Get better soon!citizenJA wrote:Good-morning, everyone
Just a quick hello
It's a gorgeous day
Unfortunately, I'm not feeling very well
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@DerbyChrisW
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Catch me on #BBCQT tonight and join the debate on Twitter.
After yet another week where the establishment has been exposed as economically incompetent and morally bankrupt, you can rest assured that I won't be pulling my punches!
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Catch me on #BBCQT tonight and join the debate on Twitter.
After yet another week where the establishment has been exposed as economically incompetent and morally bankrupt, you can rest assured that I won't be pulling my punches!
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I think my life is immeasurably better for not having watched a single QT for about a year.
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It seems like the primary defences of #PresidentsClub is that the women involved all knew what they were signing up for and all of the men had no idea.
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Only a year?!RogerOThornhill wrote:I think my life is immeasurably better for not having watched a single QT for about a year.
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Rob Hutton
"Theresa May says Britain is 'leading the world' in using artificial intelligence in public service delivery.
"I think she just does this stuff to help @JohnJCrace out."
"Theresa May says Britain is 'leading the world' in using artificial intelligence in public service delivery.
"I think she just does this stuff to help @JohnJCrace out."
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if someone is savvy enough to be a Minister or a Vice Chancellor, you would hope they could figure out what might happen at a men only soireeRogerOThornhill wrote:Chris Brosnahan
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I gather that Theresa May's turn at Davos is a sell-out. Not a spare seat in the house.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Rob Hutton
"Theresa May says Britain is 'leading the world' in using artificial intelligence in public service delivery.
"I think she just does this stuff to help @JohnJCrace out."
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Oh, God. She's "clear".
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But not absolutely clear?PorFavor wrote:Oh, God. She's "clear".
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No - I suppose that means she's clear-ish?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:But not absolutely clear?PorFavor wrote:Oh, God. She's "clear".
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Shameful homelessness figures are a direct result of decisions made by Conservative Ministers – John Healey
More to come,knowingly
Shameful homelessness figures are a direct result of decisions made by Conservative Ministers – John Healey
More to come,knowingly
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I'm absolutely certain it means she's completely befuddledPorFavor wrote:No - I suppose that means she's clear-ish?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:But not absolutely clear?PorFavor wrote:Oh, God. She's "clear".
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Garden obviously needs some attention...
David Meller takes ‘leave of absence’ from his own academy trust
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David Meller takes ‘leave of absence’ from his own academy trust
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David Meller, the organiser of the disgraced Presidents Club charity dinner, is taking a “leave of absence” from the academy trust he founded.
The Meller Educational Trust has condemned the allegations of inappropriate behaviour of guests at the men-only dinner last Thursday, and said Meller’s leave of absence from the board of trustees, which he chairs, will take effect “with immediate effect”.
However, it is unclear whether Meller remains a member of the trust, which runs four schools and a University Technology College. He is still listed on the chain’s website as a member, trustee and its chair.
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Number starting apprenticeships down 25% compared to this time last year.
Edited to add -which will doubtless be reported as a rise in numbers starting apprenticeships compared to the previous quarter.
Edited to add -which will doubtless be reported as a rise in numbers starting apprenticeships compared to the previous quarter.
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Digging in the apprenticeship numbers, from what I can see from the first table I come to
All = 491,300
Intermediate 259,400
Advanced - 195,800
Higher - 36,100
Intermediate apprenticeships are Level 2 qualifications - GCSE equivalent standards. Advanced are Level 3 - A level standard, and Higher are usually Level 4 - pre=degree study or level 5- Foundation degree study.
So over half of new apprenticeships are people retaking GCSE standard qualifications - perhaps more specialised and certainly more vocational than before, but these are not what people see when they see the government talk about apprenticeships, they see people training to build Rolls Royce engines. And over 92% are taking either GCSE or A Level equivalent qualifications, with higher qualifications being the outlier.
All = 491,300
Intermediate 259,400
Advanced - 195,800
Higher - 36,100
Intermediate apprenticeships are Level 2 qualifications - GCSE equivalent standards. Advanced are Level 3 - A level standard, and Higher are usually Level 4 - pre=degree study or level 5- Foundation degree study.
So over half of new apprenticeships are people retaking GCSE standard qualifications - perhaps more specialised and certainly more vocational than before, but these are not what people see when they see the government talk about apprenticeships, they see people training to build Rolls Royce engines. And over 92% are taking either GCSE or A Level equivalent qualifications, with higher qualifications being the outlier.
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Seven in 10 UK workers are 'chronically broke', study finds
Seven in 10 UK workers are 'chronically broke', study finds
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Theresa May’s new Brexit strategy: jump first, argue later
Tell us what you want, Britain’s European partners ask ever more plaintively. We need clarity, chorus the businesses at the sharp end of Brexit. Downing Street is silent. For good reason. Theresa May’s approach to Britain’s departure from the EU has become a strategy to avoid a strategy. The prime minister’s chosen road to Brexit is paved with fudge. Hard choices can wait. The only thing that counts is getting over the line by March 2019.
Not so long ago, cabinet Brexiters were boasting that a comprehensive trade deal with the 27 EU nations would be wrapped up by the day before yesterday. Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, scoffed at the notion that it would take two years to disentangle Britain’s affairs from those of its near neighbours. As reality began to impose itself there were what seemed reasonable hopes the government would raise its game. It might even develop a plan. Not a bit of it.
Mrs May, it is obvious, has no organising vision of the shape of Britain’s post-Brexit relationship with its own continent. Yet she does have one overarching ambition. As things stand, history will remember her as an accidental prime minister who foolishly squandered a parliamentary majority in an election she had no need to call — the worst prime minister of modern times with the exception, of course, of her immediate predecessor, David Cameron.
Theresa May’s new Brexit strategy: jump first, argue later
Tell us what you want, Britain’s European partners ask ever more plaintively. We need clarity, chorus the businesses at the sharp end of Brexit. Downing Street is silent. For good reason. Theresa May’s approach to Britain’s departure from the EU has become a strategy to avoid a strategy. The prime minister’s chosen road to Brexit is paved with fudge. Hard choices can wait. The only thing that counts is getting over the line by March 2019.
Not so long ago, cabinet Brexiters were boasting that a comprehensive trade deal with the 27 EU nations would be wrapped up by the day before yesterday. Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, scoffed at the notion that it would take two years to disentangle Britain’s affairs from those of its near neighbours. As reality began to impose itself there were what seemed reasonable hopes the government would raise its game. It might even develop a plan. Not a bit of it.
Mrs May, it is obvious, has no organising vision of the shape of Britain’s post-Brexit relationship with its own continent. Yet she does have one overarching ambition. As things stand, history will remember her as an accidental prime minister who foolishly squandered a parliamentary majority in an election she had no need to call — the worst prime minister of modern times with the exception, of course, of her immediate predecessor, David Cameron.
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By her own lights, the way to change this narrative is to make sure Britain leaves the union next March; to demonstrate that she has honoured the decision of the 2016 referendum. Everything else — the nation’s prosperity and security or its standing in the world — is a second order question.
The scope of a trade deal, arguments about a customs union and access to the single market, the role of the European Court of Justice, co-operation against terrorism — all these can be settled once Britain has cut its bonds with Brussels.
Hitherto, there has been an assumption that negotiations with the EU27 about the future relationship would concentrate minds in Downing Street. The government would make the difficult choices — between continued economic integration with Europe and supposed freedom to strike out elsewhere, between regulatory convergence and divergence, between a customs union with the EU and third country trade deals. Subject to an agreement with the EU27, these choices would be embedded in a deal to be finalised by October. The arrangements would be put in place during a two-year transition period.
Instead, Downing Street has brought down a curtain of secrecy. Insiders find it is easier to divine the thinking deep inside Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin than get straight answers from No 10. What was promised as a firm framework for the future now has the consistency of a bowl of blancmange. Brexit in this mindset resembles nothing so much as an empty box. As long as the word is emblazoned on the lid, no one asks what is inside.
In the parlance of trade negotiators the best that can now be hoped for in the autumn is a “heads of agreement” — a non-binding expression of intent and aspirations. Even that might be beyond reach. Mrs May would probably settle for a vague political declaration.
Extraordinary though it may seem, Britain will then be forced to argue about the terms of a new relationship from outside rather than inside the EU. The transition will become a de facto negotiating phase, with Britain’s hand weakened by its status as a “third country”. This approach, best described as one of “close your eyes and jump”, draws scorn from those versed in international negotiations. Mrs May, though, is not about to measure the national interest against the desperate effort to rewrite her political epitaph.
A kinder interpretation might say that a comprehensive economic and political deal was never going to be possible within the two years allowed by Article 50. That Mr Johnson and his chums thought otherwise was simply testimony to their ignorance.
The scope of a trade deal, arguments about a customs union and access to the single market, the role of the European Court of Justice, co-operation against terrorism — all these can be settled once Britain has cut its bonds with Brussels.
Hitherto, there has been an assumption that negotiations with the EU27 about the future relationship would concentrate minds in Downing Street. The government would make the difficult choices — between continued economic integration with Europe and supposed freedom to strike out elsewhere, between regulatory convergence and divergence, between a customs union with the EU and third country trade deals. Subject to an agreement with the EU27, these choices would be embedded in a deal to be finalised by October. The arrangements would be put in place during a two-year transition period.
Instead, Downing Street has brought down a curtain of secrecy. Insiders find it is easier to divine the thinking deep inside Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin than get straight answers from No 10. What was promised as a firm framework for the future now has the consistency of a bowl of blancmange. Brexit in this mindset resembles nothing so much as an empty box. As long as the word is emblazoned on the lid, no one asks what is inside.
In the parlance of trade negotiators the best that can now be hoped for in the autumn is a “heads of agreement” — a non-binding expression of intent and aspirations. Even that might be beyond reach. Mrs May would probably settle for a vague political declaration.
Extraordinary though it may seem, Britain will then be forced to argue about the terms of a new relationship from outside rather than inside the EU. The transition will become a de facto negotiating phase, with Britain’s hand weakened by its status as a “third country”. This approach, best described as one of “close your eyes and jump”, draws scorn from those versed in international negotiations. Mrs May, though, is not about to measure the national interest against the desperate effort to rewrite her political epitaph.
A kinder interpretation might say that a comprehensive economic and political deal was never going to be possible within the two years allowed by Article 50. That Mr Johnson and his chums thought otherwise was simply testimony to their ignorance.
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Maybe. But what was within reach — and with intelligent and courageous leadership from Downing Street still might still be — was an accord that sustained the essential fabric of Britain’s ties to Europe, even if from outside the formal structures of the EU.
Instead, the only calculations that have mattered have been party political. Could the prime minister satisfy the Little Englanders in her cabinet while retaining the votes of pro-European Tory MPs in parliament? The perceived risk on one side, underlined by Mr Johnson’s latest public display of disloyalty, was of a cabinet coup; on the other that an agreement that satisfied the foreign secretary and his cabinet fellow traveller Michael Gove would be voted down in the House of Commons.
Hardline Brexiters are ready to conspire in the strategy of prevarication. Having won the referendum they are suffering a loss of nerve. Mr Johnson’s claim that Brexit would yield a multibillion-pound “dividend” for the health service has been exposed in all its mendacity. Calls from business for Britain to remain in an EU customs union are growing louder. Voters are watching their living standards fall.
How soon, these zealots fret, before someone suggests an extension of the Article 50 process? Their priority is to make Brexit a legal reality. Brexit means Brexit, Mrs May once said. She had no idea of what that meant. Britain is still in the dark. The prime minister intends that this is how it should remain.
Philip Stevens FT
Instead, the only calculations that have mattered have been party political. Could the prime minister satisfy the Little Englanders in her cabinet while retaining the votes of pro-European Tory MPs in parliament? The perceived risk on one side, underlined by Mr Johnson’s latest public display of disloyalty, was of a cabinet coup; on the other that an agreement that satisfied the foreign secretary and his cabinet fellow traveller Michael Gove would be voted down in the House of Commons.
Hardline Brexiters are ready to conspire in the strategy of prevarication. Having won the referendum they are suffering a loss of nerve. Mr Johnson’s claim that Brexit would yield a multibillion-pound “dividend” for the health service has been exposed in all its mendacity. Calls from business for Britain to remain in an EU customs union are growing louder. Voters are watching their living standards fall.
How soon, these zealots fret, before someone suggests an extension of the Article 50 process? Their priority is to make Brexit a legal reality. Brexit means Brexit, Mrs May once said. She had no idea of what that meant. Britain is still in the dark. The prime minister intends that this is how it should remain.
Philip Stevens FT
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Worse, DD is still saying the exact opposite, at committee yesterday he said everything but the fine print of a trade agreement would be wrapped up before we leave.Britain will then be forced to argue about the terms of a new relationship from outside rather than inside the EU. The transition will become a de facto negotiating phase,
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or ?with intelligent and courageous leadership from Downing Street still might still be
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That lipless orange wonder Cameron started all that "clear" bollocks.PorFavor wrote:Oh, God. She's "clear".
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That is ****ing appalling.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/ ... insecurity
Seven in 10 UK workers are 'chronically broke', study finds
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Still we're leading the world in using AI to put people out of work altogether, so that should reduce that figure.
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quite.the worst prime minister of modern times with the exception, of course, of her immediate predecessor, David Cameron.
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