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Friday 2nd February 2018

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Morning

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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... ruary-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... ruary-2018" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Consultation outcome

Strengthening enforcement in gas and electricity markets


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Consultation outcome

Availability of gluten-free foods on NHS prescription
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https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... 16-to-2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regional rail usage: 2016 to 2017
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https://www.local.gov.uk/about/news/ps3 ... ens-scheme" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


3.5 billion Right-to-Buy 'firesale' threatens scheme
New analysis by the Local Government Association reveals almost £3.5 billion in Right to Buy (RTB) discounts have been handed out to council tenants over the past six years and sparked a social housing “firesale”.
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Dismissing Fergus
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Council wrong' to stop care home fees, says ombudsman
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Obvious Tory selfish bin placing neighbours selling up.I was always pleasant even when faced with accusatory letter of blocking drains with pads,pushed through letter box (unspoken assumption/suspiscion of adapted property)and follow up letter from water authority.The fact of impossibilty not withstanding.There is always one up their own arse ignoramus in any community.
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"Not so subtle"
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:lol:
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Morning all.

I'm just off to Oxford for the day so will pop my head round the door when I'm back later.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise :D
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise :D
Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!
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In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?

Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.
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A rare commendation from me for BBC Laura K giving May a proper hard time!

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good-afternoon, everyone
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Richard Handley's Inquest


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42908896" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Patients 'sent home to no heat or light'
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HindleA wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42908896


Patients 'sent home to no heat or light'
Helps them become more "self reliant" or something.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... man-rights (as referenced, earlier, by HindleA)
China commends Theresa May for 'sidestepping' human rights

“May will definitely not make any comment contrary to the goals of her China trip … For the prime minister, the losses outweigh the gains if she appeases the British media at the cost of the visit’s friendly atmosphere.”

The Global Times’ Chinese-language edition agreed western media “mudslinging” was an exercise in futility. “Nothing can stop China-UK cooperation: noise and nagging will be carried away by the wind,” it said. (Guardian)
Nothing, provided that the UK does exactly what we want it to do in exchange for the odd treat. Muscle-flexing, and a calculated jibe - (deliberately) not even very well disguised as a compliment. This should be very worrying for everyone.
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I was prepared for the news in the article to be depressing but it was worse.
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citizenJA wrote:I was prepared for the news in the article to be depressing but it was worse.
Yes - the header should probably have read "China commands Theresa May . . ."
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Although China probably only runs things along Theresa May's preferred lines, anyway - so I'm assuming that she doesn't see this as a humiliation. However, it may not play so well with the public ("Brexiters" or otherwise). She's not very good at all this stuff, is she?
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Corbyn will be in Amber Valley tomorrow at a secret location revealed once you reserve your seat by 4.30pm today.How the fuck do I know if I can get there if I don't know where it is if I wanted to go.
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Shame Izzard wasn't elected,though I hope some of his ideas come to fruition.
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HindleA wrote:Corbyn will be in Amber Valley tomorrow at a secret location revealed once you reserve your seat by 4.30pm today.How the fuck do I know if I can get there if I don't know where it is if I wanted to go.
Don't tell me that the Labour Party has bought into the "post-geography" crap . . .
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Bex Bailey sent me a nice card and has neat writing.This may be crucial in my decision next Saturday in Arkwright Town which was relocated twenty odd years ago due to methane gas.
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HindleA wrote:Bex Bailey sent me a nice card and has neat writing.This may be crucial in my decision next Saturday in Arkwright Town which was relocated twenty odd years ago due to methane gas.
No roll-up enclosed? (Although that would probably be classed as an electoral bribe.)

Long live handwritten, though!
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I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
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PF working hard for vote,recap what we discussed etc.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?

Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.

They clearly loathe one another. I'm with the mayor.

The Campaign group have never forgotten anything, and will never forgive. See the composition of the shadow cabinet.
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The response to the question "can you say the alphabet backwards" is a good guide.
They are various possibilities.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise :D
Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!

What a peculiar view. Why?

If you oppose Brexit surely you'd vote for one of the parties opposed to it, as I do, not for one of the big two with the same policy of carrying it out.

Or is this your "Labour's cunning plan to stop Brexit" thing?
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SpinningHugo wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?

Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.

They clearly loathe one another. I'm with the mayor.

The Campaign group have never forgotten anything, and will never forgive. See the composition of the shadow cabinet.
Loathe is a strong word....any evidence to back up the use of the word in conjunction with word clearly

I doubt they are best friends but it is a long way from there to loathe
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SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
The polls are worthless....there is no test outside a general election and their recent prediction accuracy has been down there with yours

I also sense some glee in your post
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SpinningHugo wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise :D
Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!

What a peculiar view. Why?

If you oppose Brexit surely you'd vote for one of the parties opposed to it, as I do, not for one of the big two with the same policy of carrying it out.

Or is this your "Labour's cunning plan to stop Brexit" thing?
AK is our by election guru (sorry AK) so if his initial reaction says that this was not about Brexit then I tend to believe him over you unless you have some working to back it up
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:A rare commendation from me for BBC Laura K giving May a proper hard time!

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Woeful
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SpinningHugo wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Two rather contrasting by-election results yesterday. And no, the Sunderland one wasn't "ABOUT BREXIT" however much the #FBFE melts proclaim otherwise :D
Indeed. A Brexit effect might have had precisely the opposite outcome!

What a peculiar view. Why?

If you oppose Brexit surely you'd vote for one of the parties opposed to it, as I do, not for one of the big two with the same policy of carrying it out.

Or is this your "Labour's cunning plan to stop Brexit" thing?
Aha I think you misunderstood me. My fault - not entirely clear.

There were two by-elections, in Sunderland and Falmouth. Which would you predict to be more strongly Leave / Remain? So, if Brexit were a big issue, an allegedly pro-Brexit Labour party would perhaps have fared relatively better in Sunderland and worse in Falmouth, the opposite of what happened.
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Got you, thanks.

I think we can agree that nobody thinks imuch to do with Brexit.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... nsultation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Consultation outcome

Fixing our broken housing market: consultation


https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... al-finance" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Consultation outcome

Proposed changes to the prudential framework of capital finance


The government published a consultation document on the proposed changes to Local Authorities Investments Guidance and the Minimum Revenue Provision Guidance in November 2017. This document sets out decisions the government has taken, as a basis for updating the prudential framework.
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I think May might actually be helping Labour - she keeps making out that they are for staying in - this is the same theme that Baker uses in the HoC as well

So we have the Tories saying Labour are staying in, the FBPE lot are saying the opposite. The party themselves are being nnon-commital

Difficult for the attacks to stick if they are so different

Nobody thinks the Tories are for a close relationship with Europe - some backbenchers are and Hammond tries but May is pretty clear they are still going for the red lines
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SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
Brexit, Brexit and Brexit.

Which opens at least the possibility that polls are in fact overstating their likely support in an election campaign when the focus *will* significantly be on other issues.
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May is defending a line that her own government has already surrendered. Only last week, Philip Hammond, the chancellor, David Davis, the Brexit secretary, and Greg Clark, the business secretary, signed a joint letter to business leaders promising maximum continuity of existing arrangements in transition. It has explicit reassurance on the movement of labour. They wrote: “Citizens will continue to be able to come and live and work in the UK, with no new barriers to taking up employment.”

It is worth noting also that May has nothing to say about how limiting the entitlements of EU citizens in transition affects Britons wanting to live and work abroad after March 2019. She cannot conceive of free movement as a reciprocal benefit, only as a cost inflicted by “them” on “us”. It would not occur to her that pinching stingily at the rights of foreigners diminishes UK citizenship too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -111678796" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(cJA bold)

Apologies for the lengthy quote, I'm tired. I've felt this latest pronouncement from Theresa May like a pain in my body. She's a liar, she's no integrity and she's not trustworthy. No one is safe, no one.
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SpinningHugo wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?

Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.

They clearly loathe one another
Ah, I forgot that you were a body language - not to mention mind reading - expert. In addition to all your other skills :P
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Theresa May, I fear that both of us will have to get used to disappointment
Marina Hyde

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -fact-free" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There's an image of T May shaking hands with Xi Jinping in China within the article
May has on her signature chain links 'round neck and wrist
Xi Jinping has an odd expression on his face, like a distressed person attempting a smile
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:In other news, Sadiq seems to be on rather better terms with Jez these days doesn't he?

Which, to avoid any doubt, is a thoroughly good thing.

They clearly loathe one another
Ah, I forgot that you were a body language - not to mention mind reading - expert. In addition to all your other skills :P

Lol. I don't think it needs any super powers to know what Khan thinks of Corbyn, or Corbyn's attitude towards all who moved against him.

Forgive and forget is not the Campaign group way.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
Brexit, Brexit and Brexit.

Which opens at least the possibility that polls are in fact overstating their likely support in an election campaign when the focus *will* significantly be on other issues.

You think the Tories are doing well on the issue of Brexit?

Do you follow the news?
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... na-cartoon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Martin Rowson on Theresa May’s troubles home and away
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SpinningHugo wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:I know we don't do polls, but that yougov poll is astonishing. The Tories are defying gravity considering their complete disarray.
Brexit, Brexit and Brexit.

Which opens at least the possibility that polls are in fact overstating their likely support in an election campaign when the focus *will* significantly be on other issues.

You think the Tories are doing well on the issue of Brexit?

Do you follow the news?
Even leaving aside the pro-Tory leanings of much of the media, most voters don't follow these things in detail.

They still think that May and the Tories are "pro-Brexit", and that is enough for them.
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