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UKIP // Confidence motion in Leader Henry Bolton, result:
Confidence (Bolton should stay): 500 (36.6%)
No Confidence (Bolton should go): 867 (63.4%)
Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
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Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Oops. Another one bites the dust.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
I suppose that really is it for him then?
One of "Super Thursday's" byelections saw UKIP finish behind the LibDems in Tendring (ie greater Clacton) Stick a fork in this party, its done.
One of "Super Thursday's" byelections saw UKIP finish behind the LibDems in Tendring (ie greater Clacton) Stick a fork in this party, its done.
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Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron:
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refitman wrote:You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron:Dan Snow
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This is insane. If this is true how can Corbyn go on as leader let alone become PM? " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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I'm not surprised at all, is anyone?
http://observer.com/2018/02/new-report- ... -in-1980s/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is like Trump and the pornstars. Who is shocked? It is baked into his numbers.
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The videos of the NPF are hilarious
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Takes me back 30+ years.
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Takes me back 30+ years.
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Did anyone else get the full bang and lurch experience?
Well that explains it. This was pretty much me:Earthquake felt across much of England and Wales
Except I thought the bang was a seagull or a cat landing on the flat roof and the lurch as the house moved and settled again just a figment of my imagination.Louise Craig......
"I get a lot of fat wood pigeons jumping up and down on my chimney and I first of all thought the noise was them but they must have put on a heck a lot of weight to make the house shake," she told the BBC.
Did anyone else get the full bang and lurch experience?
"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
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Still, there appears to be no actual evidence that Andy Kerr was abusive towards Katrina Murray as originally claimed. Funny, that.
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Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?SpinningHugo wrote:refitman wrote:You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron:Dan Snow
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This is insane. If this is true how can Corbyn go on as leader let alone become PM? " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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I'm not surprised at all, is anyone?
http://observer.com/2018/02/new-report- ... -in-1980s/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is like Trump and the pornstars. Who is shocked? It is baked into his numbers.
Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.
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Have you a link to the debunking? I've not been paying attention to this story and didn't know the files were fake.refitman wrote: Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?
Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.
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We did cover it yesterday, but if you really need the help:SpinningHugo wrote:Have you a link to the debunking? I've not been paying attention to this story and didn't know the files were fake.refitman wrote: Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?
Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.
https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... ch-agency/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One thing to remember, if people can tell you're a spy, you're a pretty shitty spy.The Sun’s account was further disputed in Czech press on Friday. New agency ČTK quoted Svetlana Ptáčníková, who heads the Czech Security Forces Archive, which keeps documents from the now defunct Czechoslovak communist secret service (known as the StB). She said although Corbyn did meet an StB officer — referred to as Jan Dymic in the archives — the Labour leader considered him a diplomat.
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Sorry, how is that a debunking?refitman wrote:We did cover it yesterday, but if you really need the help:SpinningHugo wrote:Have you a link to the debunking? I've not been paying attention to this story and didn't know the files were fake.refitman wrote: Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked?
Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer at the time paid her a load of money.
https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy- ... ch-agency/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One thing to remember, if people can tell you're a spy, you're a pretty shitty spy.The Sun’s account was further disputed in Czech press on Friday. New agency ČTK quoted Svetlana Ptáčníková, who heads the Czech Security Forces Archive, which keeps documents from the now defunct Czechoslovak communist secret service (known as the StB). She said although Corbyn did meet an StB officer — referred to as Jan Dymic in the archives — the Labour leader considered him a diplomat.
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Maybe I should have quoted the whole article:SpinningHugo wrote:
Sorry, how is that a debunking?
The Sun story is that Corbyn knowingly passed on info to a Czech spy.“Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said.
The Czech archive keepers have found signs that the StB tried to prevent Corbyn from discovering the real identity of the Czechoslovak official he was meeting, Ptacnikova said.
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seems that Hugo's source has a little difficulty relating to Planet Earth
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I don't think that is right. Re-read the observer link I gave. It is quite consistent with the politics.eu piece. Corbyn is accused of being either a stooge or the StB or, more plausibly, a naive idiot. Given that on every single issue for four decades he sides against what he perceives as "western Imperialism" that he is such a fool is hardly news. Like Trump and the pornstars. Nobody cares.refitman wrote:Maybe I should have quoted the whole article:SpinningHugo wrote:
Sorry, how is that a debunking?The Sun story is that Corbyn knowingly passed on info to a Czech spy.“Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said.
The Czech archive keepers have found signs that the StB tried to prevent Corbyn from discovering the real identity of the Czechoslovak official he was meeting, Ptacnikova said.
Given the IRA, Press Tv, Hamas, Stop the War etc, that he met with a Czech spy, whom he naively may have thought a 'diplomat', is small beer. His Campaign group credentials are longstanding. You either care about this stuff (I do) or you don't (most other people).
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All evidence,and unlike you I go by evidence suggests you largely make it up as you go along.
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well another to add to your list of shit posts - in fact it may be one of the most laughable
I don't think that is right. Re-read the observer link I gave. It is quite consistent with the politics.eu piece. Corbyn is accused of being either a stooge or the StB or, more plausibly, a naive idiot. Given that on every single issue for four decades he sides against what he perceives as "western Imperialism" that he is such a fool is hardly news. Like Trump and the pornstars. Nobody cares.
Given the IRA, Press Tv, Hamas, Stop the War etc, that he met with a Czech spy, whom he naively may have thought a 'diplomat', is small beer. His Campaign group credentials are longstanding. You either care about this stuff (I do) or you don't (most other people).
How many politicians do you think have met people who turned out to be spies? Almost everyone I think....Brenda herself had a spy working in her household for years
This is a none story from a fantasist that has been used by right-wing rags (and trolls) to restart their attempts to smear him
Undoubtably the thickest lawyer I have ever come across
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For but one thing,members of the Campaign group have/had different views,some widely.
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Have you read the Observer story? In the second paragraph:
Talk about feeding prejudices.
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.
Never mind that Corbyn was just a back bencher (how the fuck did he know what Maggie had for breakfast), did you read the part of the politico story where the Czechs say thatHowever, a disturbing new report in The Sun reveals that Corbyn was much more than just a left-wing activist in the 1980s—he was spying on his own country for the Warsaw Pact
.“Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said.
Talk about feeding prejudices.
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.
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SH has started on the whisky early,even PF is only on her third bottle of gin of the day.
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I am tropical fish sitting for my next door neighbours when they go to Dubai,my extraordinary community endeavours embarrass me sometimes.I did ensure an at your(or more correctly their)own risk,caveat.
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Three of them,I have christened them Mary Mungo and Midge
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Three at the moment...
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"Bang and lurch experience"
Yes but not for some time.
Yes but not for some time.
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HindleA wrote:"Bang and lurch experience"
Yes but not for some time.
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And there was me thinking it was just a bit of swanky stereo equipment!HindleA wrote:"Bang and lurch experience"
Yes but not for some time.
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Really???refitman wrote:
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.
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[youtube]6d9sYJb33jM[/youtube]HindleA wrote:SH has started on the whisky early,even PF is only on her third bottle of gin of the day.
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apparently so....and also this 'allegation' was apparently made in the 80s and even Thatcher laughed it awayAnatolyKasparov wrote:Really???refitman wrote:
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.
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Yup.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Really???refitman wrote:
Oh, and observer.com is owned by Jared Kushner. Make of that what you will.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/observer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The Observer is now owned by Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump's husband and Republican nominee Donald Trump's son in law.
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Ah right, its pretty hard to be sure about anything these days
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Dan Snow retweeted this accusation via Niall Ferguson....piss poor from a supposed historian!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah right, its pretty hard to be sure about anything these days
He is getting a bit of a battering now....some making a connection between his eagerness to criticise Corbyn with the fact his b-i-l is one of the richest men in Europe and doesn't seem that keen on tax
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DFH defending the homophobia of the Mail and attacking Centerparcs and TSC.
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Night night.
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Ukip Appeared On A Quarter Of All Question Time Shows Since May 2010, Huff Post UK Reveals
The Greens only got a look in 7% of the time
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/q ... 87d35ae186" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hey Hugo - why not fight for your new party to get more air time ? Would be something to spend your time on.
The Greens only got a look in 7% of the time
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/q ... 87d35ae186" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hey Hugo - why not fight for your new party to get more air time ? Would be something to spend your time on.
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Care homes for mental health patients are facing closure amid a row over social care funding.
Some staff face losing their jobs while residents are having to be re-homed.Dozens of people with serious mental health conditions face being re-homed by the council in a row over fees with a private company.
Care homes for mental health patients are facing closure amid a row over social care funding.
Some staff face losing their jobs while residents are having to be re-homed.Dozens of people with serious mental health conditions face being re-homed by the council in a row over fees with a private company.
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I don't get the point of stuff like this
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Time he woke up and realised who is now in charge.
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Time he woke up and realised who is now in charge.
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If they have something to say other than pointless whining that they aren't "in charge" any more, then you never know people might actually listen??
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BBC News and their new leader...
"UKIP has to continue because we are the only opposition"
I think I'm right in saying that the number of MPs they have is quite low....
"UKIP has to continue because we are the only opposition"
I think I'm right in saying that the number of MPs they have is quite low....
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On this NPF furore, mate of mine says the vote has to be held at least 7 days after. It has been badly handled but looks like some rule ending went on and so it is quite right it was stopped....it was handled badly though
When will Labour start acting like adults over these things instead of children
When will Labour start acting like adults over these things instead of children
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Goodnight, PorFavorPorFavor wrote:Night night.
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John McDonnell MPVerified account
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Telegraph lies. These are ridiculous and false allegations. I have never met any Czechoslovak or Soviet agent, nor visited the Soviet or Russian embassy and have only visited Guildford once in my life, which was last year for a Labour Party public meeting. Ludicrous Tory lies.
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Not sure what this is about as I've not seen the torygraph yet, but combined with attack on Corbyn & Brendan Cox (who it seems may have stuff to answer) I can't help wondering....... Is Maybot thinking of another snap election ???? There is no need to bring this stuff (whatever it may be) out now, why are they now saving it for GE time ?
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@johnmcdonnellMP
Telegraph lies. These are ridiculous and false allegations. I have never met any Czechoslovak or Soviet agent, nor visited the Soviet or Russian embassy and have only visited Guildford once in my life, which was last year for a Labour Party public meeting. Ludicrous Tory lies.
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not sure what this is about as I've not seen the torygraph yet, but combined with attack on Corbyn & Brendan Cox (who it seems may have stuff to answer) I can't help wondering....... Is Maybot thinking of another snap election ???? There is no need to bring this stuff (whatever it may be) out now, why are they now saving it for GE time ?
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Front page of the Kipper: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;AngryAsWell wrote:John McDonnell MPVerified account
@johnmcdonnellMP
Telegraph lies. These are ridiculous and false allegations. I have never met any Czechoslovak or Soviet agent, nor visited the Soviet or Russian embassy and have only visited Guildford once in my life, which was last year for a Labour Party public meeting. Ludicrous Tory lies.
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not sure what this is about as I've not seen the torygraph yet, but combined with attack on Corbyn & Brendan Cox (who it seems may have stuff to answer) I can't help wondering....... Is Maybot thinking of another snap election ???? There is no need to bring this stuff (whatever it may be) out now, why are they now saving it for GE time ?
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Goodnight, everyone
hold on, please
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hold on, please
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Nice but not sure once a year is going to make the point clear enough.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... in-society" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One Day Without Us events aim ‘to stand against hatred, xenophobia and intolerance’
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Huh. The Czech's ran a Tory MP for over a decade in the 60s and 70s. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 96370.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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More than a million benefits sanctions imposed on disabled people since 2010
More than a million benefits sanctions imposed on disabled people since 2010
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Exclusive: shock figures reveal state of UK’s brutal prisons
Observer analysis of inspection reports shows two in five jails are unsafe and inadequate conditions prevail in two thirds
Exclusive: shock figures reveal state of UK’s brutal prisons
Observer analysis of inspection reports shows two in five jails are unsafe and inadequate conditions prevail in two thirds
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The Observer view on Britain’s shameful social division
The Observer view on Britain’s shameful social division
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The Alternatives: how a Liverpool suburb upended its housing market
The Alternatives: how a Liverpool suburb upended its housing market