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Morning.

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HindleA wrote:Morning.

(Self imposed ban lifted)
Excellent news
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I promise to behave.Last time I opened,on discovering I could change the title at will,the power went to my head.
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I think with that sort of power it's just inevitable
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Morning all.

So, John Bolton...

Interesting bit by Jon Sopel (I think) on Today who said while Bolton will be hardline over Iran and N.Korea, the same can be said for his stance on Russia...and far more than Trump has been. It'll be interesting to see how this one develops - and how long Bolton stays in post.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... imes-story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Gordon Brown calls for police inquiry into Sunday Times story
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We've gone from do not walk on the other side to knee them in the nether regions.
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(He helped us,people in our situation-now removed.)
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I watched some of Question Time last night, the Brexit part, normally I'd switch off straight away but it was fascinating because they seemed to have rounded up every pro-Brexit young person in Leeds, one of them was adamant that every young person he knew was for Leave. I think he should get out more.
There was one young woman after my own heart, the last one who spoke in the Brexit segment, said she'd voted remain because untangling our law from the EU's would take years and she didn't like the uncertainty.

Main takeaway was that it's impossible to understate the intelligence of James Cleverly.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Donald Tusk

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http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press ... arch-2018/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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HindleA wrote:I promise to behave.Last time I opened,on discovering I could change the title at will,the power went to my head.
Longlongago I was part of a forum with one 'dump' thread - which at different times was called 'Things That Occurred To Me Today' - 'Things That Fell Out Of My Brain Today' and eventually just 'Speak Your Brains'. It had been started by one member who came to hate it and it eventually occurred to him that as the originator of the thread he could simply delete the whole thing, even though it was the busiest thread on the forum. So he did, swiftly giving birth to 'Whatever happened to Speak Your Brains' , 'Should we be allowed to delete threads' and, eventually 'The All New Speak Your Brains'.
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http://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.k1090/rr-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Finally, last week saw publication of statistics not only raising the alarm at mortality rates in adults, but also in infants. Infant mortality has risen two years in a row.4 This confirmed the concerns first raised by Taylor-Robinson et al in 2017,5 and re-iterated in their rapid response.6 Among countries of the European Union, between 1990 and 2015 the UK dropped from 7th place to 19th for neonatal mortality, and from 9th to 19th for under-five mortality.7
More worrying figures from the BMJ
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

So, John Bolton...

Interesting bit by Jon Sopel (I think) on Today who said while Bolton will be hardline over Iran and N.Korea, the same can be said for his stance on Russia...and far more than Trump has been. It'll be interesting to see how this one develops - and how long Bolton stays in post.
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US going to war may be Trump's only route to re-election. Appointment of Bolton as national security advisor makes a conflict destination more likely.
I've seen this opinion expressed a few times but this is the most succinct.
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This is pretty outrageous.

Metropolitan Police admits role in blacklisting construction workers

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43507728
Scotland Yard has admitted Special Branch officers passed information to a controversial network that blacklisted construction workers.

It follows a six-year battle to find out if the Metropolitan Police supplied the intelligence on trade unionists.

The force says its investigation had "proven" the allegation, which will be investigated by a public inquiry.

Workers who say they were unfairly barred from jobs have already received millions of pounds in compensation.

In 2016, the union Unite reached a settlement with construction firms that resulted in 256 workers sharing more than £10m in compensation.
In the back of my mind I remember a group in the 70s who were responsible for blacklisting workers. Wonder what they were called?
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Ah, the Economic League...and there's some interesting links between them and the Consulting Association.

https://app.croneri.co.uk/feature-artic ... n-industry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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About three quarters declining loan in lieu of recognition of contribution,both past and continuing.I would have had to stop work as a guide to their misanthropic stupidity.
(SMI to interest bearing loan with charges)
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Just another way of removing money/residualising contributory effects of course.Obsessive stupidity about "off benefits"/encouraging lifestyle decisions of getting renal failure or something.
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All those struggling to get a mortgage should get renal failure as fairness,see how this nonsense works.
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"Interesting" mindset that cajoles the sick/disabled to work/more ,live within means etc despite circumstances without their control as fairness.
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People getting very excited about Owen Smith's piece on Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pean-union" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I didn't read it as at all surprising or controversial myself. I wish he hadn't started the last paragraph with "Labour needs...", but otherwise, Meh.
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On my own I get way in excess in a minimum wage job than two of us got with no extra costs.Being ill is expensive in itself,before you get to the lost/reduced earning power.Of course obvious,so much so fascistic intent I think appropriate.
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Well.
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Though somewhat relieved I am no longer responsible for people younger than I was,when I did,struggling to get a mortgage.The burden was becoming onerous.
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2.A beefed up extra costs allowance bespoke to situation taking into account cost saving investment.Removal.of conditionality of method/eligibility of support (eg only getting travel support for work purposes)
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:One for HowSilly
ooo thanks Paul

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https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2018/m ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cambridge Analytica misled MPs over work for Leave.EU, says ex-director
Brittany Kaiser contradicts CEO, who told MPs the data firm did not work with Brexit campaign group
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https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit- ... ender/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Brexit: A managed surrender"
“Swallow the lot and swallow it now,” was how Britain’s chief negotiator Con O’Neill described the accession process before the U.K. joined the community in 1973, according to his confidential account of the talks published in 2000.
It turns out that leaving the bloc is a strikingly symmetrical process...

...And that means the rest of the Brexit process is likely to look very much like it has thus far: a thunderous standoff masking a gradual retreat.
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The point of in effect increased personal budget (intention otherwise outwith the DWP undermining/actively working against).Proven cheaper,effective but above all independent enhancing taking control/responsibility.
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Neither State diktat nor suitably pathetic beholden to charity.
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Shall we say taking responsibilty rather than docile receivership and facillitation presented as the opposite is "annoying".
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Jeremy Corbyn full speech at Labour’s Local Elections launch in Trafford
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... 1000-a-day" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Struggling Tory council paid acting boss more than £1,000 a day
Government inspector’s report criticised Northamptonshire county council for its ‘sloppy’ approach to financial planning
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Actually attempting to look like a spring day,here.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... sadiq-khan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Labour condemns Tories for racially charged attack on Sadiq Khan
Local election leaflet, which warns of increased influence by London mayor in Havering, described as a return to dog-whistle politics
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Constance doing some knitting.Interesting method but seems effective.
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Sybil the scrubbing machine and I are hoping to be in the next Strictly Come Dancing.After a disasterous start where I crashed her within the first half hour becoming rather good.
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HindleA wrote:Constance doing some knitting.Interesting method but seems effective.
the knitting or the guillotine
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Good-evening, everyone
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:People getting very excited about Owen Smith's piece on Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pean-union" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I didn't read it as at all surprising or controversial myself. I wish he hadn't started the last paragraph with "Labour needs...", but otherwise, Meh.
Looks I read this one wrongly!

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PF is missing which is worrying.As is the evil look in Constance's eye.
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... rys-scheme" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Sajid Javid faces battle over 4% affordable homes in Sainsbury's scheme


"Affordable"
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Doesn't matter what type,apparently.All move on appropriately and in orderly fashion,so the guy without a tent eventually gets one.May take a few millenia.
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Vote liquorice with a dash of puce
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PF back,although could be a feline imposter.
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Owen Smith
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Just been sacked by @jeremycorbyn for my long held views on the damage #Brexit will do to the Good Friday Agreement & the economy of the entire U.K. Those views are shared by Labour members & supporters and I will continue to speak up for them, and in the interest of our country.
6:25 pm · 23 Mar 2018
No doubt Corbyn supporters will have reasons why Corbyn had no choice but to sack Owen Smith and maybe they will be technically right, but Labour have really got themselves in a bloody mess if a minister pointing out the very obvious damage Brexit (any kind of Brexit) will do to Northern & Southern Ireland and pressing for a rethink has to be sacked because "it's not the party line".

I thought he'd been doing a good job skewering the Tories on their Ireland denial. Pretty ironic that the arguments that were making the Tories uncomfortable are the same as the ones that have led to his being replaced.
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Howsilly apparently turning into Dick Emery,he is awful but ....
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Willow904 wrote:
Owen Smith
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Just been sacked by @jeremycorbyn for my long held views on the damage #Brexit will do to the Good Friday Agreement & the economy of the entire U.K. Those views are shared by Labour members & supporters and I will continue to speak up for them, and in the interest of our country.
6:25 pm · 23 Mar 2018
No doubt Corbyn supporters will have reasons why Corbyn had no choice but to sack Owen Smith and maybe they will be technically right, but Labour have really got themselves in a bloody mess if a minister pointing out the very obvious damage Brexit (any kind of Brexit) will do to Northern & Southern Ireland and pressing for a rethink has to be sacked because "it's not the party line".

I thought he'd been doing a good job skewering the Tories on their Ireland denial. Pretty ironic that the arguments that were making the Tories uncomfortable are the same as the ones that have led to his being replaced.
I broadly agree with this as I said above.

But why did he feel the need to say "Labour needs to...."? If he's like that all the time.....

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