Thursday 26th April 2018
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Thursday 26th April 2018
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Toady -- at 0600 Nick Robinson manages to read out that there WERE removals targets .
Leading on it again at 6.30 with quotes from Rudd. She had no idea about bloody anything. HO staff aiming at " Low hanging fruit", target figures pinned on office walls FFS.
One question that has never been answered is on the related matter of unethical behaviour on WCA's --- WHY didn't the professional bodies mobilise to oppose nurses and physios collaborating with the DWP ?
The same applies to the Home office unions . Orders are orders ?
Not holding my breath.
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Leading on it again at 6.30 with quotes from Rudd. She had no idea about bloody anything. HO staff aiming at " Low hanging fruit", target figures pinned on office walls FFS.
One question that has never been answered is on the related matter of unethical behaviour on WCA's --- WHY didn't the professional bodies mobilise to oppose nurses and physios collaborating with the DWP ?
The same applies to the Home office unions . Orders are orders ?
Not holding my breath.
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Morning all.
Dan Hannan seems to have morphed into Toby Young...
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Dan Hannan seems to have morphed into Toby Young...
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Quite.
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If Theresa May knew the Windrush generation and their children were British all along - as she says in #PMQs - why was she stopping their rights to work, healthcare and benefits and detaining or deporting them? And why did she ignore the clear alarms raised until this week?
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This is superb.
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It is, but doesn't he have anything better to do?
UK government paid consultants £680K for Brexit customs plan
The proposal is one of two UK suggestions rejected by Brussels and widely criticized by British MPs.
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UK government paid consultants £680K for Brexit customs plan
The proposal is one of two UK suggestions rejected by Brussels and widely criticized by British MPs.
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It's just a repeat of the DWP and sanctions.
Amber Rudd’s opening statement.
I have never agreed that there should be specific removal targets and I would never support a policy that puts targets ahead of people.
The immigration arm of the Home Office has been using local targets for internal performance management. These were not published targets against which performance was assessed, but if they were used inappropriately then I am clear that this will have to change.
I have asked officials to provide me with a full picture of performance measurement tools which are used at all levels, and will update the House and the Home Affairs select committee as soon as possible.
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*cough* Labour's target culture *cough*
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"Give me crayons"RogerOThornhill wrote:This is superb.
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It is brilliant and the crayons line is good, but in the midst of this little Alfie is dyingAnatolyKasparov wrote:"Give me crayons"RogerOThornhill wrote:This is superb.
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Not sure if we had this but I thought it was very good indeed, from the Independent yesterday.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:It is brilliant and the crayons line is good, but in the midst of this little Alfie is dyingAnatolyKasparov wrote:"Give me crayons"RogerOThornhill wrote:This is superb.
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As an intensive care doctor and a mother whose own baby son was critically ill, the Alfie Evans case makes me angry
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Of course the case itself is desperately sad and that should never be forgotten. But the shameless ghouls who have attached themselves to it.......
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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Rudd sets massive new Brexit hare running by refusing to confirm UK will definitely leave EU’s Customs Union: “I’m afraid I’m not going to be drawn on that”. Instead, says discussions still ongoing in Cabinet #pressgallery
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A "clarification" which normally means "Got back to the office...got a stinking phone call from No 10 and and am now backtracking like mad"
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Thanks to the Press Gallery for hosting me at a challenging yet enjoyable lunch. I should have been clearer - of course when we leave the EU we will be leaving the customs union. I wasn't going to get into ongoing cabinet discussions about our future trading relationship.
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I wonder who's in charge of the Troll Farm? Not the brightest whoever it is.James and 21 others liked
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A significant number of accounts with no followers are punting the nonsense that Labour is somehow responsible for the Windrush scandal & Theresa May’s ‘hostile environment’ policies.
Is this the first foray of a Tory troll farm?
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Yes, that's exactly what we're afraid of.Tony Connelly
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9. Davis says CU had advantages in the 70s. UK trade is currently 60pc to EU, 40pc to rest of the world. “In a year or so that will be reversed”. Says UK wants a “racing start” to avail of global trade opportunities. No need for an extension of membership of CU.
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Yes of course AK my comment was not aimed at you or RoT, just me saying what I feel.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Of course the case itself is desperately sad and that should never be forgotten. But the shameless ghouls who have attached themselves to it.......
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Look who's back!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Bit quiet in here again?
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Facebook says AggregateIQ spent $2m on Brexit-related ads
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Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.
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A reminder of my exchange with herrefitman wrote:Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.
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Anyone else noticed that suddenly there are new "specs-free" photos of Rudd everywhere?
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I'm sitting at a railway station gotta ticket for my deportation, oooh #AmberRuddSongs
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I'm sitting at a railway station gotta ticket for my deportation, oooh #AmberRuddSongs
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Actually, if Heidi Allen was resigning as an MP that would be pretty big - and tbh unexpected - news. I assume you really mean Heidi ALEXANDER, though?refitman wrote:Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.
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Apparently, #HeidiAlexander was at Durham at the same time as I was. But I cannot remember her, and I knew all the political crowd. Anyway, there we are. She rose without trace, and she seems to be falling without trace as well. http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com/2018 ... l?spref=tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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Apparently, #HeidiAlexander was at Durham at the same time as I was. But I cannot remember her, and I knew all the political crowd. Anyway, there we are. She rose without trace, and she seems to be falling without trace as well. http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com/2018 ... l?spref=tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …
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Oops.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Actually, if Heidi Allen was resigning as an MP that would be pretty big - and tbh unexpected - news. I assume you really mean Heidi ALEXANDER, though?refitman wrote:Heidi Allan has confirmed she's stepping down.
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Well, exactly. We want to leave so everything can be the same. Forget "sick man of Europe", we're the ruddy thick man of Europe.In a speech Mr Barnier rejected Theresa May’s call for continued trade in financial services between Britain and the EU “based on the UK and EU maintaining the same regulatory outcomes over time”.
“I can perfectly see the UK's logic and interest in pleading for a system of ‘mutual recognition’ and ‘reciprocal regulatory equivalence’,” Mr Barnier said at a finance conference in the Bulgarian capital. “This is, indeed, what the single market achieves!”
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A Crace for China --
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Tho the straight news is too Cracelike for comfort !
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Tho the straight news is too Cracelike for comfort !