Saturday 28th & Sunday 29th April 2018
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You forgot the "PTO".
So here it is
So here it is
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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From the Will Hutton article that I'm sure someone has already linked:
That's pretty shocking. This is our reality now. Rapid devastating decline. Perhaps it's inevitable, a rite of passage for ex-Empires, to lose absolutely everything before we can truly understand that we aren't any more important than anyone else.
Is there any chance at all that a full-on recession would make those Parliamentarians determined to inflict the "will of the people" on us to pause and reconsider?
Not that I want a recession. Now the kids are older I was hoping to get a job....
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Figures released by the OECD on Friday show inward investment into Britain slumped by $181bn over the last year; outward investment has boomed by $120bn. This is one of the biggest one-year turnarounds by any country ever recorded. But it is scarcely reported.
That's pretty shocking. This is our reality now. Rapid devastating decline. Perhaps it's inevitable, a rite of passage for ex-Empires, to lose absolutely everything before we can truly understand that we aren't any more important than anyone else.
Is there any chance at all that a full-on recession would make those Parliamentarians determined to inflict the "will of the people" on us to pause and reconsider?
Not that I want a recession. Now the kids are older I was hoping to get a job....
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I don't think they can be happy. Racists action and words won't resolve anyone's anger. Racism is objectionable because it doesn't make sense, it's dysfunctional, solving nothing.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well, what do you think the answer to that is??HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... tewart-lee
The racists won. So are they happy now?
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Do babies look at other babies with different coloured skin and become afraid? No, together they laugh and smile with their whole bodies. Some of us are different colours, totally cool! They learn all the words from any number of languages heard, spoken and contextualised. Some people dress like this, others like that. It doesn't hurt.
Where do fear and anger come from? What's their cause? Resolve problems at their source.
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I'm learning to play chess. I wish someone taught me the game earlier. I've no problem admitting I'm terrible; even the computer complains it's too easy to win playing against me.AnatolyKasparov wrote:You forgot the "PTO".
So here it is
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Thanks for this. Good fiction teaches truth.PorFavor wrote:I read this ages ago, but remember thinking it was pretty good -HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/ ... sey-hanley
Top 10 books about council housing
"Throwing the House Out of the Window" (fiction) by Ben Richards. It's about a young council housing officer in East London (based on Ben Richards' own experiences as one).
It's quite a good read to the best of my recollection but, by now, it must be over 15 years old.
Anyway, worth a shot if you happen upon a copy.
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It is never too late to learncitizenJA wrote:I'm learning to play chess. I wish someone taught me the game earlier. I've no problem admitting I'm terrible; even the computer complains it's too easy to win playing against me.AnatolyKasparov wrote:You forgot the "PTO".
So here it is
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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John McDonnell also now calling for Amber Rudd's resignation (Sky TV news).
Amber's embers?
Amber's embers?
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -programmeMillions of trees at risk in secretive Network Rail felling programme
Exclusive: Plan to stop leaves and branches falling on lines has already led to thousands of trees being chopped down
In one incident, police in Bournemouth were called by residents to complain that engineers were operating illegally as the felling is taking place during the nesting season.
At one west London station this week, an engineer felling five mature trees said they were carrying out a “pre-emptive strike” in case branches or leaves fell on the line in future.(Guardian)
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PorFavor wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -programmeMillions of trees at risk in secretive Network Rail felling programme
Exclusive: Plan to stop leaves and branches falling on lines has already led to thousands of trees being chopped down
In one incident, police in Bournemouth were called by residents to complain that engineers were operating illegally as the felling is taking place during the nesting season.
At one west London station this week, an engineer felling five mature trees said they were carrying out a “pre-emptive strike” in case branches or leaves fell on the line in future.(Guardian)
They took all the trees
And put them in a tree museum
Then they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em
Don't it always seem to go,
That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?
They paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
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Lots of folk ask me how I get time to read fiction. The answer is I don’t get much - most of my reading is government papers (apparently an optional extra for some UK ministers these days ) - but making some time to read literature is essential for me and I highly recommend it.
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Lots of folk ask me how I get time to read fiction. The answer is I don’t get much - most of my reading is government papers (apparently an optional extra for some UK ministers these days ) - but making some time to read literature is essential for me and I highly recommend it.
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An unusually personal comment from Sturgeon, makes her seem almost human!
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Have we had the latest on Woodcock?
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John Woodcock stands accused of sending a former staff member inappropriate texts and emails from 2014 to 2016 - even after she left her job.
The Barrow and Furness MP will face a disciplinary hearing later this year and could lose the party whip if the claims are proved.
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Cheating at UK's top universities soars by 30%
Cheating at UK's top universities soars by 30%
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There's a massive, embarrassing problem with Theresa May's Tory election broadcast
There's a massive, embarrassing problem with Theresa May's Tory election broadcast
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The Elephant and Castle in the room?
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... als-targetAmber Rudd letter to PM reveals 'ambitious but deliverable' removals target
Exclusive: Home secretary’s denial last week she was aware of deportation targets at odds with January 2017 letter to May
The private letter from Amber Rudd to Downing Street in which she sets an “ambitious but deliverable” target for an increase in the enforced deportation of immigrants is published by the Guardian today.
The letter, signed by the home secretary in January last year, states that she is refocusing work within her department to achieve the “aim of increasing the number of enforced removals by more than 10% over the next few years”. (Guardian)
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Is it ... Theresa May?HindleA wrote:https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true
There's a massive, embarrassing problem with Theresa May's Tory election broadcast
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Presumably it will be "Oh, you mean that target! I thought you were talking about a completely different one" or "It's another Amber Rudd. Not me."
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LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Dearie me, what on earth has this one become?
He's still trying the yeah but no but yeah but stuff...(((Dan Hodges)))
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People saying "isn't that a target?". Nope. a) "We need 1,000 extra removals by December 31st". A target. b) "We need to alter policy to try to get a 10% increase or so in removals at some unspecified point in the future". Not a target. An ambition.
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Yes I read his article. Very odd. There's the germ of a good point in there, but he's basically just completely wrong!RogerOThornhill wrote:Dearie me, what on earth has this one become?
He's still trying the yeah but no but yeah but stuff...(((Dan Hodges)))
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People saying "isn't that a target?". Nope. a) "We need 1,000 extra removals by December 31st". A target. b) "We need to alter policy to try to get a 10% increase or so in removals at some unspecified point in the future". Not a target. An ambition.
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Pollies doing the nasty inhuman stuff while holding their noses, not looking at all closely at any evidence/reading the Guardian, because after all it was TWOTP and they are sovereign, and then the peepul are revolted by the inhumanity involved .PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Yes I read his article. Very odd. There's the germ of a good point in there, but he's basically just completely wrong!RogerOThornhill wrote:Dearie me, what on earth has this one become?
He's still trying the yeah but no but yeah but stuff...(((Dan Hodges)))
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People saying "isn't that a target?". Nope. a) "We need 1,000 extra removals by December 31st". A target. b) "We need to alter policy to try to get a 10% increase or so in removals at some unspecified point in the future". Not a target. An ambition.
So ungrateful
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Today, I'm mostly wearing two jumpers. Oh, and winter trousers and socks.Floods, gales and even snow forecast for UK ahead of May Day
Met Office issues yellow rain and wind warning for London and much of east and south-east
(Guardian)
Edited to add the link - just in case you want the full, depressing story
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... of-may-day
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On this occasion Amber has quite enough warnings of her ownPorFavor wrote:Today, I'm mostly wearing two jumpers. Oh, and winter trousers and socks.Floods, gales and even snow forecast for UK ahead of May Day
Met Office issues yellow rain and wind warning for London and much of east and south-east
(Guardian)
Edited to add the link - just in case you want the full, depressing story
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... of-may-day
Talking of which, the latest leak feels like the nail in the coffin. Peston has
So @AmberRuddHR has to explain how point 2 can be consistent with her proposing a 10% rise in removals. How could she set a target for increasing removals if she didn’t know there was a target for removals? As I said, this is becoming surreal
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As recommended by LightACandle, this is just a great chuckle
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The leaks just kept coming. Someone wanted rid of her.gilsey wrote:Rudd’s gone.
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‘Devastating tragedy for Amber Rudd’ per BBC news. Really?
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Well she should never have blamed her staff should she?!Willow904 wrote:The leaks just kept coming. Someone wanted rid of her.gilsey wrote:Rudd’s gone.
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Oh please, no!Owen Bennett
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Either making Michael Gove Home Secretary or not making Michael Gove Home Secretary is a big call now by Theresa May.
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Javid more likely?
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I'm sure many feel a bit sorry for Rudd.
Not because we should really feel sorry for her, but because it's the evil May who should really take the rap.
Not because we should really feel sorry for her, but because it's the evil May who should really take the rap.
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It was a rather basic tactical error.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Well she should never have blamed her staff should she?!Willow904 wrote:The leaks just kept coming. Someone wanted rid of her.gilsey wrote:Rudd’s gone.
One less anti-rabid-"Brexit" cabinet member, though.
However, Sky News suggesting that the immigration target explosive parcel now firmly rests with Theresa May so, hopefully, this isn't the end of it.
Edited - tidy up. Sticky keyboard syndrome, affecting "a" and "c".
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I've just got back from a weekend in the Scottish borders and have sunburned the top of my head.PorFavor wrote:Today, I'm mostly wearing two jumpers. Oh, and winter trousers and socks.
"Should I take my sunhat?"
"No, don't be ridiculous, it's April for god's sake. And put that thick wooly jumper in your already heavy bag."
Genius.
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I wouldn't normally quote the comments in the g, but
lamuella 30m ago
Don't think of it as getting the sack, Amber. Think of it as being removed because of irregularities with your paperwork.
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Once upon a time a Minister resigned if his staff cocked up even if he was totally unaware of what happened. His/her department, his/her responsibility.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Well she should never have blamed her staff should she?!Willow904 wrote:The leaks just kept coming. Someone wanted rid of her.gilsey wrote:Rudd’s gone.
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You'll all no doubt know about how the East Coast mainline was reprivatised after being run profitably by the state for reasons of ideological zeal and how Virgin are going to be allowed to renege on their deal without penalty because they overestimated the profit they could make from it and didn't make an unrealistic bid at all.
When it was run by the state I could buy an advance cheap ticket a month in advance all the time if it was a late night or early morning train. Yet now curiously, when I try to buy a ticket a month in advance late at night or early in the morning every single ticket is sold out all the time. Which leads me to believe there are two possibilities.
Either since Virgin took over the passenger numbers who use the train at these unsociable hours has massively ballooned, or Virgin are deliberately not selling tickets to those trains cheaply in advance. And since Virgin admitted their troubles were partly caused by overestimating the number of extra passengers they could attract I can only assume it's the latter.
I mean the last time I got the last train down the East Coast on a Sunday getting me into Leeds at midnight I wasn't fighting for a seat, in fact I practically had a whole carriage to myself, and yet now I'm being led to believe by Virgin that these trains are fully booked weeks in advance? Bollocks.
And while I'd love to blame that parasite Branson when it comes down to it this kind of nonsense is the responsibility of his enabler, one Christopher Grayling.
Oh and John Major for privatising the railways in the first place of course.
When it was run by the state I could buy an advance cheap ticket a month in advance all the time if it was a late night or early morning train. Yet now curiously, when I try to buy a ticket a month in advance late at night or early in the morning every single ticket is sold out all the time. Which leads me to believe there are two possibilities.
Either since Virgin took over the passenger numbers who use the train at these unsociable hours has massively ballooned, or Virgin are deliberately not selling tickets to those trains cheaply in advance. And since Virgin admitted their troubles were partly caused by overestimating the number of extra passengers they could attract I can only assume it's the latter.
I mean the last time I got the last train down the East Coast on a Sunday getting me into Leeds at midnight I wasn't fighting for a seat, in fact I practically had a whole carriage to myself, and yet now I'm being led to believe by Virgin that these trains are fully booked weeks in advance? Bollocks.
And while I'd love to blame that parasite Branson when it comes down to it this kind of nonsense is the responsibility of his enabler, one Christopher Grayling.
Oh and John Major for privatising the railways in the first place of course.
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If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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What the actual fuck?
There;s some unbelievable guff coming out of Tories tonight about the MP who lied to Parliament and whose department has been deporting British citizens.Michael Gove
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I’m so sad about Amber’s departure from government - she was a huge asset - brave, principled, thoughtful, humane, considerate and always thinking of the impact of policy on the vulnerable - I hope Amber will be back soon - we need her
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One presumes this sacrifice has been made in the hope that offering up Rudd to the flames will create enough acrid smoke to conceal the true villian of the piece.