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The dressing gown is on holiday in Cuba
In back garden in underwear.I didn't get to where I'm not today by wearing excess clothes
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David Miliband is trending on Twitter
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I mean don't get me wrong, he has an opinion and insight to offer on Brexit, but of course it's being portrayed as the saviour from over the water coming to sort Labour out.
I hope he takes the chance to say Labour are doing their best in a difficult situation and that it's the Tories who are a shambles.
I hope he takes the chance to say Labour are doing their best in a difficult situation and that it's the Tories who are a shambles.
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Some good moaning on Twitter about the wall to wall appearances by the Tax Payers' Alliance on the BBC recently.
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And I would like a pony.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I hope he takes the chance to say Labour are doing their best in a difficult situation and that it's the Tories who are a shambles.
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Strangely, for a supposed ultra democratic expression of "the people's will", the EU referendum is threatening to have the biggest impact on people who didn't get a vote, such as long time ex-pats living in the EU, EU citizens settled in the UK and a group of people hitherto completely forgotten:
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While the rest of us have been told our wellbeing for at least the next 10 years is irrelevant, presumably the wellbeing of Falkland Islanders is irrelevant, fullstop?!Brexit: Falkland Islands government sounds alarm on leaving single market
EU is destination for vast majority of territory’s exports
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Good-morning, everyone
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From the guardianIsrael has warned Gaza’s residents that their lives will be in danger if they take part in a mass rally planned to protest against the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem later on Monday.
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Gibraltar too. Maybe there's something about being more British than the British that also makes you more European than the British.Willow904 wrote:Strangely, for a supposed ultra democratic expression of "the people's will", the EU referendum is threatening to have the biggest impact on people who didn't get a vote, such as long time ex-pats living in the EU, EU citizens settled in the UK and a group of people hitherto completely forgotten:
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While the rest of us have been told our wellbeing for at least the next 10 years is irrelevant, presumably the wellbeing of Falkland Islanders is irrelevant, fullstop?!Brexit: Falkland Islands government sounds alarm on leaving single market
EU is destination for vast majority of territory’s exports
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searching through historical records and legislation for mechanisms available for non-violent peoples wanting rid of bad, broken government
ritual chanting may be involved
ritual chanting may be involved
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How rudeadam wrote:From the guardianIsrael has warned Gaza’s residents that their lives will be in danger if they take part in a mass rally planned to protest against the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem later on Monday.
I advise Israel and the US to reconsider their plans and choose a better course of action respecting lives and the well-being of everyone
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On BBCNews24 just now he was saying something about the Lords being ahead of the party leadership.adam wrote:And I would like a pony.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I hope he takes the chance to say Labour are doing their best in a difficult situation and that it's the Tories who are a shambles.
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I'm not sure Nicky Morgan had thought this through.
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I agree with much of what David Miliband says on Brexit. But sadly his ego & ambition stops him seeing that he symbolises so many of the things that drove people to back withdrawal & still corrode politics
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I agree with much of what David Miliband says on Brexit. But sadly his ego & ambition stops him seeing that he symbolises so many of the things that drove people to back withdrawal & still corrode politics
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Gibraltar did at least get a vote, for all the good it did them. Like Northern Ireland, though, the weight of their vote completely failed to reflect the much greater impact of a Brexit decision on them in particular. It's not like this problem wasn't highlighted during the debate to hold a referendum. Which is why I'm still angry at Labour for supporting it.adam wrote:Gibraltar too. Maybe there's something about being more British than the British that also makes you more European than the British.Willow904 wrote:Strangely, for a supposed ultra democratic expression of "the people's will", the EU referendum is threatening to have the biggest impact on people who didn't get a vote, such as long time ex-pats living in the EU, EU citizens settled in the UK and a group of people hitherto completely forgotten:
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While the rest of us have been told our wellbeing for at least the next 10 years is irrelevant, presumably the wellbeing of Falkland Islanders is irrelevant, fullstop?!Brexit: Falkland Islands government sounds alarm on leaving single market
EU is destination for vast majority of territory’s exports
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And its a former speechwriter for Cameron who gets it.gilsey wrote:Ian Birrell
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I agree with much of what David Miliband says on Brexit. But sadly his ego & ambition stops him seeing that he symbolises so many of the things that drove people to back withdrawal & still corrode politics
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Quite significant, I think:
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Norway is open to the UK joining the European Economic Area after Brexit, prime minister Erna Solberg has said in an interview with the Financial Times. "I think we will cope very well if the Brits come in. It will give bargaining power on our side too," she added. The House of Lords voted last week in favour of the so-called 'Norway option' for staying in the single market.
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I'm not being flippant. Bad decisions made and dangerous action threatened requires unequivocal, simple, non-violent responses. I'm not suggesting those responses are all that's necessary.citizenJA wrote:How rudeadam wrote:From the guardianIsrael has warned Gaza’s residents that their lives will be in danger if they take part in a mass rally planned to protest against the opening of the US embassy in Jerusalem later on Monday.
I advise Israel and the US to reconsider their plans and choose a better course of action respecting lives and the well-being of everyone
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What is this about?gilsey wrote:I'm not sure Nicky Morgan had thought this through.
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Getting together with DMiliband and Clegg, that's all.AnatolyKasparov wrote:What is this about?gilsey wrote:I'm not sure Nicky Morgan had thought this through.
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I think she's already blotted her copybook as far as little Englander Tory leave voters are concerned, so perhaps she feels she's nothing to lose by going all out liberal pro-remain. Especially as it seems she's already getting abuse for her position, anyway:gilsey wrote:Getting together with DMiliband and Clegg, that's all.AnatolyKasparov wrote:What is this about?gilsey wrote:I'm not sure Nicky Morgan had thought this through.
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Nicky Morgan says in 3 weeks time she’ll be in court over a death threat she received for voting against government. Adds that it’s not treachery to point out that Brexit is not going well and will harm Britain.
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Morning all.
Up early to go into school and check on SATs admin. Papers still in their packaging locked in a cupboard in a locked room...in the basement.
Then to a check up for 'er indoors. All fine. next appointment in 3 months.
Up early to go into school and check on SATs admin. Papers still in their packaging locked in a cupboard in a locked room...in the basement.
Then to a check up for 'er indoors. All fine. next appointment in 3 months.
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Groan squared
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Well it is Simon "wrong about everything" Jenkins tbf
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We are witnessing an abhorrent violation of international law & human rights in #Gaza. 38 confirmed dead, including 6 children, with close to 2000 people injured. Many are reporting injuries to the head and chest. Over 500 injured with live ammunition. This must end immediately.
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We are witnessing an abhorrent violation of international law & human rights in #Gaza. 38 confirmed dead, including 6 children, with close to 2000 people injured. Many are reporting injuries to the head and chest. Over 500 injured with live ammunition. This must end immediately.
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Yitzhak Rabin must be spinning in his grave.
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Worse, looks like his assassin got much (if not all) of what he wanted.PorFavor wrote:Yitzhak Rabin must be spinning in his grave.
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Well quite.
These are the same people wh are fully behind free speech with no exceptions as well I would imagine.David Schneider
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Alt right: “Snowflake! Cuck! Remoaner! Libtard! Beta! SJW! Triggered!”
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Alt right: “How dare you call people names!"
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43 killed & 1800 wounded in a few hours is pure atrocity! Throwing matches into a powder keg for the sake of symbolism & regressing moves towards peaceful solution is how POTUS conceives his policy in the #MiddleEast. This is not the way to pursue peace
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43 killed & 1800 wounded in a few hours is pure atrocity! Throwing matches into a powder keg for the sake of symbolism & regressing moves towards peaceful solution is how POTUS conceives his policy in the #MiddleEast. This is not the way to pursue peace
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Press regulation is back back back! The House of Lords has just rejected the verdict of the House of Commons and voted by 252 to 213 to establish a new Leveson-style public inquiry into the conduct of the media. Now MPs will have to vote *again*.
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Press regulation is back back back! The House of Lords has just rejected the verdict of the House of Commons and voted by 252 to 213 to establish a new Leveson-style public inquiry into the conduct of the media. Now MPs will have to vote *again*.
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I knowohsocynical wrote:AmnestyInternational
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We are witnessing an abhorrent violation of international law & human rights in #Gaza. 38 confirmed dead, including 6 children, with close to 2000 people injured. Many are reporting injuries to the head and chest. Over 500 injured with live ammunition. This must end immediately.
jesus christ almighty
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Just, wow.
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Tragic events on the Gazan border; all civilian deaths are regrettable. Hamas must accept responsibility for these events. Their successful attempt to hijack peaceful protest as cover to attack Israeli border communities must be condemned by all who seek peace in the Middle East.
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Donald Trump makes no secret of the fact that he has no use for subject-matter experts. By all appearances, the president is especially indifferent to the judgment of scholars and authorities in matters of foreign policy.
The Washington Post had an interesting piece last week on Trump’s approach to international affairs, which is driven by his confidence in a “gut-driven” approach that he sees as effective, despite experts’ warnings. In particular, his decision to relocate the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem is, in Trump’s mind, a great example of his wisdom.
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The Washington Post had an interesting piece last week on Trump’s approach to international affairs, which is driven by his confidence in a “gut-driven” approach that he sees as effective, despite experts’ warnings. In particular, his decision to relocate the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem is, in Trump’s mind, a great example of his wisdom.
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Peace isn't kept using violence
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May defeated in Lords as peers back new Leveson-style press inquiry by majority of 39
The government has lost the vote by 252 votes to 213 - a majority of 39. That means have voted in favour a new Leveson-style press inquiry.
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Perhaps the LFI should demonstrate outside parliament against those Evil Leftwing and FAUX Humanitarian people who condemn Israel's disproportionate use of force ?refitman wrote:Just, wow.
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Tragic events on the Gazan border; all civilian deaths are regrettable. Hamas must accept responsibility for these events. Their successful attempt to hijack peaceful protest as cover to attack Israeli border communities must be condemned by all who seek peace in the Middle East.
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They MUST be antisemitic, mustn't they ? Let's have a supporting demo !! We could invite Chuka (Boo!) and David Lammy ( see what we did ? )
For some time I've been quietly seething at the LP's lack of reaction to all the smears . Extraordinarily unimaginative . Grrr !
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Absolutely BRILLIANT !refitman wrote:May defeated in Lords as peers back new Leveson-style press inquiry by majority of 39
The government has lost the vote by 252 votes to 213 - a majority of 39. That means have voted in favour a new Leveson-style press inquiry.
OK, I haven't read the small print!, but it does look rather good ...
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Big week next week when the American Embassy in Israel will be moved to Jerusalem. Congratulations to all!
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Big week next week when I defy the United Nations and move the American Embassy to a disputed city in a volatile region on a specific date when tensions are most inflamed. And then invite a man who called Islam a "cult" to give the opening prayer.
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Big week next week when the American Embassy in Israel will be moved to Jerusalem. Congratulations to all!
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Big week next week when I defy the United Nations and move the American Embassy to a disputed city in a volatile region on a specific date when tensions are most inflamed. And then invite a man who called Islam a "cult" to give the opening prayer.
What could possibly go wrong?Translate Trump added,
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Shocking and unacceptable. @emmadentcoad tells Parliament that a fourth food bank is opening in the Grenfell area. In the richest borough in the country with a council that has £ millions in reserves. A shocking indictment of a broken system.
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Shocking and unacceptable. @emmadentcoad tells Parliament that a fourth food bank is opening in the Grenfell area. In the richest borough in the country with a council that has £ millions in reserves. A shocking indictment of a broken system.
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Perhaps we should ask him WHY he demonstrated so enthusiastically beside the "Labour Friends of Israel" ONLY the other day ( nothing to do with declared £ contributions), and I'd be very surprised, today, if he minded that much about a few hundred shot rag-heads .ohsocynical wrote:David Lammy
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Shocking and unacceptable. @emmadentcoad tells Parliament that a fourth food bank is opening in the Grenfell area. In the richest borough in the country with a council that has £ millions in reserves. A shocking indictment of a broken system.
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Of course, finding an equivalence between being 'dead', and having one's sensibilities wounded by some sort of antisemitic slur is EXACTLY equivalent !
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Terribly challenging events. We do need to remember this is a public forum.frog222 wrote:Perhaps we should ask him WHY he demonstrated so enthusiastically beside the "Labour Friends of Israel" ONLY the other day ( nothing to do with declared £ contributions), and I'd be very surprised, today, if he minded that much about a few hundred shot rag-heads .ohsocynical wrote:David Lammy
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Shocking and unacceptable. @emmadentcoad tells Parliament that a fourth food bank is opening in the Grenfell area. In the richest borough in the country with a council that has £ millions in reserves. A shocking indictment of a broken system.
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Of course, finding an equivalence between being 'dead', and having one's sensibilities wounded by some sort of antisemitic slur is EXACTLY equivalent !
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Paul -- of course you are right in reminding me to cool down !
My own position on the LFI is that they are the English equivalents of the French Crif and the American AIPAC .
Those I call the "Israel Firsters" are the same tribalist deplorables who believe tax-cutting will produce Free Health Care for all .
My own position on the LFI is that they are the English equivalents of the French Crif and the American AIPAC .
Those I call the "Israel Firsters" are the same tribalist deplorables who believe tax-cutting will produce Free Health Care for all .
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Thanks frogfrog222 wrote:Paul -- of course you are right in reminding me to cool down !
My own position on the LFI is that they are the English equivalents of the French Crif and the American AIPAC .
Those I call the "Israel Firsters" are the same tribalist deplorables who believe tax-cutting will produce Free Health Care for all .
One thing for sure, the Palestinian kids who were killed today were not to blame for any of this.
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