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Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th July 2018
Morning
Thank #### it rained,non-lawn looks slightly less part of of an alien landscape.
Thank #### it rained,non-lawn looks slightly less part of of an alien landscape.
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No rain yet, but it nearly always does after a spring tide , which is tomorrow .
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( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )
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( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )
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Mentioned yesterday by Por Favor I think, there's a 'Long Read' from the G a while ago...
How the MoD’s plan to privatise military housing ended in disaster
How the MoD’s plan to privatise military housing ended in disaster
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Reading the Guy Hands MOD privatisation saga, which began with rail ... !
"" According to the financier, over a two-week period, one of Nomura’s researchers rang or visited every single train manufacturer in the world. He soon figured out that Angel Trains, one of the three rolling stock operating companies, was seriously undervalued. Its trains were being sold with a projected use of seven years, when in fact they would almost certainly be used for significantly longer because there was insufficient manufacturing capacity worldwide to replace the trains.
Instead of valuing the deal on a seven-year projection, PFG valued it on a longer timeline. PFG could easily outbid competitors, while still being confident that they would make money on the deal. “Surprise, surprise, we won,” said the financier. “And some of those trains are still running today.” ""
Salmond interview on Toady , quote : " White House tweet -- ' POTUS on way to Scotland, departing the UK ' , which is good news for the SNP. "
"" According to the financier, over a two-week period, one of Nomura’s researchers rang or visited every single train manufacturer in the world. He soon figured out that Angel Trains, one of the three rolling stock operating companies, was seriously undervalued. Its trains were being sold with a projected use of seven years, when in fact they would almost certainly be used for significantly longer because there was insufficient manufacturing capacity worldwide to replace the trains.
Instead of valuing the deal on a seven-year projection, PFG valued it on a longer timeline. PFG could easily outbid competitors, while still being confident that they would make money on the deal. “Surprise, surprise, we won,” said the financier. “And some of those trains are still running today.” ""
Salmond interview on Toady , quote : " White House tweet -- ' POTUS on way to Scotland, departing the UK ' , which is good news for the SNP. "
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Not mentioned on today's (genuinely hilarious) Mail front page.frog222 wrote:No rain yet, but it nearly always does after a spring tide , which is tomorrow .
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( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )
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For those that haven't seen it: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;AnatolyKasparov wrote:Not mentioned on today's (genuinely hilarious) Mail front page.frog222 wrote:No rain yet, but it nearly always does after a spring tide , which is tomorrow .
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( Apparently potus broke protocol and plain good manners in walking in front of HM ... )
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Makes a change from the more usual Yank conflation of GB/UK with "England", I supposefrog222 wrote: Salmond interview on Toady , quote : " White House tweet -- ' POTUS on way to Scotland, departing the UK ' , which is good news for the SNP. "
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Late edition of Dacre's rag
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Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper
The Trump Toronto reveals the links between a shadowy world of post-Soviet money and a future president
Which coincides nicely with those Mueller indictments . Mmmmm !
19 minute audio at FT, this is only 1.52 and well worth a look
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It's a witchhunt !
[i]" " Tom Keatinge, a former JPMorgan banker who now specialises in financial crime at London’s Royal United Services Institute (Rusi), said that if the $100m payment were deemed a bribe, the flow of money through Shnaider to the Trump Toronto meant that “you could argue that the Trump Organization is receiving the proceeds of crime and therefore is being used as a money-laundering opportunity”. The Financial Times""[/i]
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The Trump Toronto reveals the links between a shadowy world of post-Soviet money and a future president
Which coincides nicely with those Mueller indictments . Mmmmm !
19 minute audio at FT, this is only 1.52 and well worth a look
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It's a witchhunt !
[i]" " Tom Keatinge, a former JPMorgan banker who now specialises in financial crime at London’s Royal United Services Institute (Rusi), said that if the $100m payment were deemed a bribe, the flow of money through Shnaider to the Trump Toronto meant that “you could argue that the Trump Organization is receiving the proceeds of crime and therefore is being used as a money-laundering opportunity”. The Financial Times""[/i]
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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A'ternoon.
Hats off to GPUK for the Trump protest:
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Hats off to GPUK for the Trump protest:
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LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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duplicated
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As in "so good you posted it twice"?frog222 wrote:duplicated
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AK - not sure what happened !
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[youtube]HfRsUEy57XU[/youtube]Jeremy Corbyn
Verified account @jeremycorbyn
Our message today to President Donald Trump was: We're united in our hope for a world of justice not division.
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Prizes for the best headlines:
Daily Record:
Daily Record:
Daily Star (Scotland):The ego has landed in Scotland...
MEET THE FAKERS
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44831638" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;HAIR FORCE ONE
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The blimp may not have made it to the golf course but apparently he's going on a word tour.
Starting with Australia.
Starting with Australia.
LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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A selection of favourite placards:
1) Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus
2) Star-spangled Gobshite
1) Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus
2) Star-spangled Gobshite
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Schools, pupils and their characteristics: January 2018
Amended title of table 8e in attachment 'Schools pupils and their characteristics 2018 - LA tables'.
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Amended title of table 8e in attachment 'Schools pupils and their characteristics 2018 - LA tables'.
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A bit worrying they don't know what they are.
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3) Orange is the New Twattinyclanger2 wrote:A selection of favourite placards:
1) Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus
2) Star-spangled Gobshite
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Places of education,people that go there.No wonder the Country is in the state it is in.
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Airbus ‘in a holding pattern’ waiting for the nuts and bolts of Brexit
Airbus ‘in a holding pattern’ waiting for the nuts and bolts of Brexit
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So its actually 4th place that is COMING HOME, then.
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missed this:
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Julian Tudor Hart obituary
Doctor who set up a research practice in a Welsh mining community and pioneered routine preventive health care
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Julian Tudor Hart obituary
Doctor who set up a research practice in a Welsh mining community and pioneered routine preventive health care
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STEVE RICHARDS: What would Harold Wilson do?
STEVE RICHARDS: What would Harold Wilson do?
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This massacre must stop': Nicaraguan student rebels face militia assault
Witnesses describe terrifying attack on occupied university where activists are protesting president Daniel Ortega
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Witnesses describe terrifying attack on occupied university where activists are protesting president Daniel Ortega
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Daniel Ortega, eh? Now there's an example of the once familiar liberator turned tyrant thing.
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The blimp didn't - but somebody did:tinyclanger2 wrote:The blimp may not have made it to the golf course but apparently he's going on a word tour.
Starting with Australia.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1635 ... ry-resort/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;POLICE have launched a manhunt for the anti-Trump protestor who breached a security ring to paraglide within 60 metres of the President.
The US President was enjoying the evening sunshine with business associates on the lawn of his Turnberry golf course when a Greenpeace protestor swooped above carrying a banner saying: ‘Trump Well Below Par #resist’
("Manhunt" sounds a bit OTT).
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Yep. Missed most of the first half though (probably a wise move) through following the final set of Nadal v Djokovic. Amazing tennis.AnatolyKasparov wrote:So its actually 4th place that is COMING HOME, then.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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England played a lot better in the second half tbf, but chasing the game was always likely to let in another goal once they failed to put one of their chances away.
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I knew there was a reason I had no memory at all of the 3rd/4th place match against Italy in 1990 - it was, like this afternoon, that I just couldn't be bothered with it.AnatolyKasparov wrote:England played a lot better in the second half tbf, but chasing the game was always likely to let in another goal once they failed to put one of their chances away.
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I have a cauldron of onion soup and some very nice cheese on toast to float and sink in it if anyone's interested.
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It (the 1990 game) was pretty decent from what I recall. Certainly better than the genuinely disgraceful final that yearadam wrote:I knew there was a reason I had no memory at all of the 3rd/4th place match against Italy in 1990 - it was, like this afternoon, that I just couldn't be bothered with it.AnatolyKasparov wrote:England played a lot better in the second half tbf, but chasing the game was always likely to let in another goal once they failed to put one of their chances away.
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Later ! Off to the beach for a rinse after mowing the orchard. There is a rising spring tide.adam wrote:I have a cauldron of onion soup and some very nice cheese on toast to float and sink in it if anyone's interested.
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beautiful, thank youadam wrote:I have a cauldron of onion soup and some very nice cheese on toast to float and sink in it if anyone's interested.
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Must be a ####ing big lawn mower.
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#FBPE will be in mourningHindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... l-election
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I don't think this was one of ERG's planned resignations:
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Why identity politics benefits the right more than the left
Sheri Berman
Why identity politics benefits the right more than the left
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I liked the articleHindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ump-racism
Why identity politics benefits the right more than the left
Sheri Berman
In Corbyn's speech yesterday
'...We're united in our hope for a world of justice not division'
stand together or we're goners
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Othering is the fascists friend,the left do it even in "sympathetic" terms,highlights the danger of counterproductiveness,solidifying concepts,ways of thinking/viewing self and others and related behaviour,appropriation/internalising of "expected" characteristics eg.sufficiently needy,acting oppressed/lack of agency etc.
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Terms like "metropolitan elite" are hugely divisive, too. What does it even mean?
Things which connect people are the apparatus of the state we all use - hospitals, schools, trains, buses.
Labour does best when it talks about these concrete things that everyone understands. Talk of the "left behind" I don't find helpful. In terms of less being spent on essential services we are all equally short changed and "left behind". Therefore we all potentially benefit from these areas seeing more investment. The right have been very successful at creating the idea of "winners" and "losers" with something for "someone else" only possible at another person's expense. Re-creating a sense of all of us being winners from various policies is clearly the key to shaking loose of current polarised and divisive narratives but it's quite a challenge, isn't it? Identify politics is working for those who seek to undermine democratic consensus and replace it with top down authoritarianism.
Things which connect people are the apparatus of the state we all use - hospitals, schools, trains, buses.
Labour does best when it talks about these concrete things that everyone understands. Talk of the "left behind" I don't find helpful. In terms of less being spent on essential services we are all equally short changed and "left behind". Therefore we all potentially benefit from these areas seeing more investment. The right have been very successful at creating the idea of "winners" and "losers" with something for "someone else" only possible at another person's expense. Re-creating a sense of all of us being winners from various policies is clearly the key to shaking loose of current polarised and divisive narratives but it's quite a challenge, isn't it? Identify politics is working for those who seek to undermine democratic consensus and replace it with top down authoritarianism.
"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
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My offer of benign dictatorship still stands
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# subject to tea and nicotine levels,I may have off days and slaughter a few,but nobody is perfect.
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Happiness is finding more chocolate bars,somehow forgotten.
Whatever you do,don't turn over.
Whatever you do,don't turn over.