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Morning
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Private probation companies to have contracts ended early
Bailout totalling £500m criticised as justice secretary consults on new scheme
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Private probation companies to have contracts ended early
Bailout totalling £500m criticised as justice secretary consults on new scheme
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Good banter from PorFavor and TheSkysGoneOut late yesterday
Worth a browse!
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"Vape man versus the Gin Queen"
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Reverse that.
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He's blackmailing me over a picture of me "resting my eyes" in recliner,for some reason I have one sock off.
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Day off after working six hours of it,determined to stay awake,else wasted.
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Of course never a day off against the bastard Tories.
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Household debt in UK 'worse than at any time on record'
British household finances among most indebted in major western countries, ONS says
Household debt in UK 'worse than at any time on record'
British household finances among most indebted in major western countries, ONS says
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That take an interest bearing loan or lose your home policy in context and of course deliberately created debt inbuilt into UC.
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"Why the Trump-Juncker love-in is bad news for Britain"
"Why the Trump-Juncker love-in is bad news for Britain"
There’s an even more appealing takeaway that Juncker and chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier hope the U.K. will take heed of: Pick yourself a victory when one is handed to you on a platter. Just as everything Juncker offered Trump was in the indisputable best economic interest of the U.S., everything Barnier is offering the U.K. at the negotiating table is in Britain’s own best economic self-interest — according to the U.K. government’s own analyses.
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How should antisemitism be defined?
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The Heaven's have opened.
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Only four chocolate mousses,well they are only small,more like a mou.
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HindleA wrote:Only four chocolate mousses,well they are only small,more like a mou.
It's raining chocolate mousse?
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Some sort of Tory patronising peanut in the can aren't we not bastard thing for children they have disadvantaged.
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Feeding time at the zoo,look at the animals folks,I hope they are suitably grateful and don't revolt or indeed question or anything.
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The cynicism is theirs.
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"Far from watering down or weakening it, Labour’s code strengthens it by addressing forms of discrimination that the IHRA overlooked. For example, the definition omits any reference to discrimination against Jews, a key form of antisemitism.
The attacks on the new code, including those by some Labour MPs and a number of rabbis, are baffling. One has to wonder if all these people have read the code or indeed the IHRA press release."
The attacks on the new code, including those by some Labour MPs and a number of rabbis, are baffling. One has to wonder if all these people have read the code or indeed the IHRA press release."
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Morning all.
The thunderstorms that were su[pposed to hit at 4am apparently decided not to bother so this is still the them tune of the day ...
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The thunderstorms that were su[pposed to hit at 4am apparently decided not to bother so this is still the them tune of the day ...
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Thunderstorms just about continuous here since 8am.
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Everyone seen this jaw-dropping stuff?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44966969" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
shockedbutnotsurprised
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And this one - ads released after both sides agreed to stop campaigning in the wake of the murder of Jo Cox.
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I saw this just now, it's a reference to the 2012 London Olympics
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It’s tragic, isn’t it? Everything we’ve lost.
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The same as last Friday,torrential rain for an hour or two then clear.It "spotted" during the night/early hours,apparently,not that I noticed
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As good as her': Pauline Hanson life-size cutouts replace leader at byelection
Cardboard figures will be at every polling booth in the Queensland seat of Longman
As good as her': Pauline Hanson life-size cutouts replace leader at byelection
Cardboard figures will be at every polling booth in the Queensland seat of Longman
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The BBC seem to have omited that they are mostly lies.gilsey wrote:Everyone seen this jaw-dropping stuff?
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In the sea at 8.30 yesterday, listening to the thunder in the direction of Jersey, and crack! it started right behind me . Only half-soaked when I got back to my car ...HindleA wrote:The same as last Friday,torrential rain for an hour or two then clear.It "spotted" during the night/early hours,apparently,not that I noticed
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Bottom half, or top half?frog222 wrote:In the sea at 8.30 yesterday, listening to the thunder in the direction of Jersey, and crack! it started right behind me . Only half-soaked when I got back to my car ...HindleA wrote:The same as last Friday,torrential rain for an hour or two then clear.It "spotted" during the night/early hours,apparently,not that I noticed
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Craceless in brexitland —
“The EU, he said, in his almost self-parodical Frenchman-speaking-English accent, “will keep control of its law, its booouurderes, and its monneh”.
Dominic Raab's 'war cry' to Brussels turned out to be a desperate beg for mercy
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/br ... 65466.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“The EU, he said, in his almost self-parodical Frenchman-speaking-English accent, “will keep control of its law, its booouurderes, and its monneh”.
Dominic Raab's 'war cry' to Brussels turned out to be a desperate beg for mercy
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/br ... 65466.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The back !refitman wrote:Bottom half, or top half?frog222 wrote:In the sea at 8.30 yesterday, listening to the thunder in the direction of Jersey, and crack! it started right behind me . Only half-soaked when I got back to my car ...HindleA wrote:The same as last Friday,torrential rain for an hour or two then clear.It "spotted" during the night/early hours,apparently,not that I noticed
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It's sunless and sultry, here.
I love the hot weather - but we do need some rain. None is forecast for this area, though.
I remember a hot summer that we had quite some years ago when it was really hot during the day, but it rained quite dramatically nearly every night. It was glorious.
I love the hot weather - but we do need some rain. None is forecast for this area, though.
I remember a hot summer that we had quite some years ago when it was really hot during the day, but it rained quite dramatically nearly every night. It was glorious.
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Centrists and #FBPEers don't get it - they assumed the 2012 Olympics was what we actually *were*, rather than what we could be.gilsey wrote:I saw this just now, it's a reference to the 2012 London OlympicsPardon me for shoutingIndia Knight
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It’s tragic, isn’t it? Everything we’ve lost.
YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR ED MILIBAND
(the people who booed Osborne got that, at least)
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Talking of Ed M someone on that Twitter stuck up an old Spectator article from 2015 on how Ed lost support of Jewish people after his support for Palestinians...
I'll see if I can find it again.
I'll see if I can find it again.
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I thought I'd posted it here ! Back in a mo .RogerOThornhill wrote:Talking of Ed M someone on that Twitter stuck up an old Spectator article from 2015 on how Ed lost support of Jewish people after his support for Palestinians...
I'll see if I can find it again.
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Sure it was here, even quoted a chunk of it .
Keep up at the back
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This one?
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/how ... wish-vote/How Ed Miliband lost the Jewish vote (Spectator)
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Here's the post 5.07 yesterday
This is from 2015 , more homework --
" Jews don’t form a homogeneous voting bloc, but they have in the past been a barometer: long left-leaning, they strongly backed Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s before swinging heavily to New Labour in 1997.
This week, a poll for the Jewish -Chronicle found that 69 per cent of Jews intend to vote Tory next month, with Labour trailing on only 22 per cent. Moreover, while 64 per cent said David Cameron had the best attitude towards British Jewry, only 13 per cent picked Miliband as the best supporter of the community. The Jewish Chronicle poll found 73 per cent of Jews said the parties’ approach toward Israel and the Middle East was ‘very’ or ‘quite’ important in determining how they would vote, and by 65 to 10 per cent Cameron led Miliband on having the best attitude.
Community activists believe Miliband’s position on Israel has become such a sticking point that many Jews who traditionally vote Labour can’t bring themselves to do so. One said: ‘They have been forced to choose between their party and their support for Israel in a way they never thought they would be.’ Some have already made that choice: last autumn, Maureen Lipman declared that, for the first time in five decades, she wouldn’t be voting Labour. At the same time, Kate Bearman, a former director of Labour Friends of Israel, resigned her party membership.
Even some Jewish Labour activists believe the party has written the community off electorally. This could turn out to be a costly miscalculation. There are a string of marginals — Finchley and Golders Green, Hendon, Brent Central, Ilford North, Hornsey and Wood Green, Hampstead and Kilburn, Harrow East, Harrow West and Hove — where Miliband has little room for error and Jewish voters could provide the difference between victory and defeat.
The Labour leader has, says one sympathetic observer, shown a great deal of ‘carelessness’ in his dealings with the Jewish community. If that carelessness costs him the keys to No. 10, he continues, the ‘tragedy will be complete’. "
This is from 2015 , more homework --
" Jews don’t form a homogeneous voting bloc, but they have in the past been a barometer: long left-leaning, they strongly backed Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s before swinging heavily to New Labour in 1997.
This week, a poll for the Jewish -Chronicle found that 69 per cent of Jews intend to vote Tory next month, with Labour trailing on only 22 per cent. Moreover, while 64 per cent said David Cameron had the best attitude towards British Jewry, only 13 per cent picked Miliband as the best supporter of the community. The Jewish Chronicle poll found 73 per cent of Jews said the parties’ approach toward Israel and the Middle East was ‘very’ or ‘quite’ important in determining how they would vote, and by 65 to 10 per cent Cameron led Miliband on having the best attitude.
Community activists believe Miliband’s position on Israel has become such a sticking point that many Jews who traditionally vote Labour can’t bring themselves to do so. One said: ‘They have been forced to choose between their party and their support for Israel in a way they never thought they would be.’ Some have already made that choice: last autumn, Maureen Lipman declared that, for the first time in five decades, she wouldn’t be voting Labour. At the same time, Kate Bearman, a former director of Labour Friends of Israel, resigned her party membership.
Even some Jewish Labour activists believe the party has written the community off electorally. This could turn out to be a costly miscalculation. There are a string of marginals — Finchley and Golders Green, Hendon, Brent Central, Ilford North, Hornsey and Wood Green, Hampstead and Kilburn, Harrow East, Harrow West and Hove — where Miliband has little room for error and Jewish voters could provide the difference between victory and defeat.
The Labour leader has, says one sympathetic observer, shown a great deal of ‘carelessness’ in his dealings with the Jewish community. If that carelessness costs him the keys to No. 10, he continues, the ‘tragedy will be complete’. "
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Yep, I distinctly recall "self-hating Jew" comments from some useful idiots around that time.
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Oops, sorry! Should have checked here first!
Interesting isn't it?
Interesting isn't it?
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Today's Gdn antisemitism-ihra-definition-jewish-writers
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Apparently 44 countries 'accept' the IHRA definition , but it all looks like a can of worms ! And is it really part of UK Law, please ?
Reading the G about a week ago, the three or four 'examples' which the LP committee were not sure about /were excluding seemed dodgy to me too.
The Spectator article shows how very deeply all this is entwined with Israel. Inevitably so!
As an aside, was the Zionist Bitch insult to Margaret Hodge definitely sent by a labour member, or for example a Russian bot ?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... sh-writers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Apparently 44 countries 'accept' the IHRA definition , but it all looks like a can of worms ! And is it really part of UK Law, please ?
Reading the G about a week ago, the three or four 'examples' which the LP committee were not sure about /were excluding seemed dodgy to me too.
The Spectator article shows how very deeply all this is entwined with Israel. Inevitably so!
As an aside, was the Zionist Bitch insult to Margaret Hodge definitely sent by a labour member, or for example a Russian bot ?
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Yes, agreedPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Good banter from PorFavor and TheSkysGoneOut late yesterday
Worth a browse!
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Hurrah votes.(NEC & NPF).I like voting.
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(cJA edit)RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
The thunderstorms that were supposed to hit at 4am apparently decided not to bother...
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same here
it's hotter in the room I store pigments than it was yesterday
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The contrast between fridge/freezer conditions and outside was certainly "interesting"."thermals in this weather?"
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Will vote "cross slate" as usual (everybody vote for Ann Black, pls) but I admit my selection will be tilted to the left this time round.HindleA wrote:Hurrah votes.(NEC & NPF).I like voting.
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The weirdness of being so cold you feel hot,or indeed so hot you feel cold.Temperature gauge somewhat confused,currently even with several layers can't get bodily warm.
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Salad.I will stop eating at some stage.BUT NOT YET.