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Gary Younge is always good,to read later ! --
The Democrats must do more than simply oppose Donald Trump
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The Democrats must do more than simply oppose Donald Trump
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House of Fraser bought by Mike Ashley's Sports Direct for £90m
The rescue deal includes all of the department store chain’s outlets
House of Fraser bought by Mike Ashley's Sports Direct for £90m
The rescue deal includes all of the department store chain’s outlets
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Modest growth,trade deficit noticeably worsened.
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As unexpectedly expected.
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Looking after tropical fish again shortly.The pressure,the pressure.I'm a fool to myself.
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Though they are very left wing,pity they can't vote.I don't see why not.
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Repeatedly
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Votes for fish.
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I bet HoF staff are thrilled at the idea of working for Ashley, probably prefer to be made redundant.
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Read this.
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So, Twitter. In light of the ongoing clusterfuck that is #brexit, let me tell you a little about my white, Australian experience of dealing with the UK visa authority, a complete shitshow of a bureaucracy that is in no way prepared to handle what's coming.
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And they don't always even do that........frog222 wrote:Gary Younge is always good,to read later ! --
The Democrats must do more than simply oppose Donald Trump
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A bit of a shocker for the Libs this.
Britain Elects@britainelects
Newquay Treviglas (Cornwall) result:
CON: 45.5% (+13.8)
LDEM: 38.0% (-30.2)
LAB: 16.4% (+16.4)
Con GAIN from LDem.
If only had an expert correspondent to interpret this for us
Britain Elects@britainelects
Newquay Treviglas (Cornwall) result:
CON: 45.5% (+13.8)
LDEM: 38.0% (-30.2)
LAB: 16.4% (+16.4)
Con GAIN from LDem.
If only had an expert correspondent to interpret this for us
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Labour did OK considering their candidate was from the other end of the county!
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....Boris and the burkas
[cf. Martha and the Muffins]
....Boris and the burkas
[cf. Martha and the Muffins]
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Hell's Bells! It's always been bureaucratic, but the examples there show it far worse under the shrinkthestate Tories . Increasingly Kafkaesque suffering for the victims and dysfunction of the public sector. "Lack of resources" indeed ---gilsey wrote:Read this." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Foz Meadows
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So, Twitter. In light of the ongoing clusterfuck that is #brexit, let me tell you a little about my white, Australian experience of dealing with the UK visa authority, a complete shitshow of a bureaucracy that is in no way prepared to handle what's coming.
@PowellPolitics : Mass immigration is one of the reasons Labour lost in 2010, ask Mrs Duffy. Conservatives won on pledge to cut immigration to ‘tens of thousands’ but they’ve failed as EU free movement ties their hands, instead they’ve targeted non-EU citizens. It’s idiotic and shameful.
@artemis0801 1 hil y a 1 heure : Ludicrous lies. Our government could implement the 3 months rule for EU citizens but can't be bothered to do so because they haven't the resources to process them. And you think in an imaginary post-Brexit they'll behave better to non -EU migrants? Are you for real? Jeez.
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Good scary one from yesterday’s NYT in today’s International edition —
With Alex Jones, Facebook’s Worst Demons Abroad Begin to Come Home
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/worl ... ation.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Half a dozen examples of causal links between FB Fake News/propaganda and deaths and ethnic cleansing —
“That year, (2012), fake reports of sectarian violence went viral in India, setting off riots that killed several people and displaced thousands. Indian officials put so much pressure on Facebook to remove the posts that American officials publicly intervened in the company’s defense. (NB, see below, last line !!!!)
Reports of Facebook-linked violence only grew in India, and as Facebook expanded to other developing countries, similar stories followed.
“I think in the back deep-deep recesses of our minds, we kind of knew something bad could happen,” Chamath Palihapitiya, a senior executive who left Facebook in 2011, said at a policy conference last year. “We have created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works.”
There were other warnings, typically from activists or civil society leaders in the developing countries where Facebook’s expansion was fastest and most obviously disruptive. But they were little heeded.”
Modi is not so critical, it helped him to power …
With Alex Jones, Facebook’s Worst Demons Abroad Begin to Come Home
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/worl ... ation.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Half a dozen examples of causal links between FB Fake News/propaganda and deaths and ethnic cleansing —
“That year, (2012), fake reports of sectarian violence went viral in India, setting off riots that killed several people and displaced thousands. Indian officials put so much pressure on Facebook to remove the posts that American officials publicly intervened in the company’s defense. (NB, see below, last line !!!!)
Reports of Facebook-linked violence only grew in India, and as Facebook expanded to other developing countries, similar stories followed.
“I think in the back deep-deep recesses of our minds, we kind of knew something bad could happen,” Chamath Palihapitiya, a senior executive who left Facebook in 2011, said at a policy conference last year. “We have created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works.”
There were other warnings, typically from activists or civil society leaders in the developing countries where Facebook’s expansion was fastest and most obviously disruptive. But they were little heeded.”
Modi is not so critical, it helped him to power …
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AgreedHindleA wrote:Votes for fish.
Enfranchisement for fish makes the world a better place
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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Plaice,surely?
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I saw thatgilsey wrote:I bet HoF staff are thrilled at the idea of working for Ashley, probably prefer to be made redundant.
Sorrowful business
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huh?HindleA wrote:Plaice,surely?
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Neil Hamilton has failed in his bid to become Wales UKIP leader. Great shame.
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Awake now ?citizenJA wrote:huh?HindleA wrote:Plaice,surely?
" Since then, Riyadh has also halted academic exchange programmes, giving 15,000 Saudi students one month to transfer elsewhere, and Saudia, the state airline, has announced the suspension of flights to Toronto.
Legions of automated social media bots have begun calling for the secession of Quebec, and Saudi-owned media have also launched a wave of attacks on Canada’s own human rights and prisons record.
Al Arabiya, the pan-Arab news channel, incorrectly told viewers on Wednesday that 75 per cent of prisoners in Canadian jails died before trial. Another Saudi channel aired an interview in which a pundit claimed Canada is the worst country in the world for the treatment of women. "
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Difficult to believe that those examples of Fake News could be so dumb, maybe it's fake itself etc etc etc etc
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Fake fake news, we are getting meta here
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frog222 wrote:Awake now ?citizenJA wrote:huh?HindleA wrote:Plaice,surely?
" Since then, Riyadh has also halted academic exchange programmes, giving 15,000 Saudi students one month to transfer elsewhere, and Saudia, the state airline, has announced the suspension of flights to Toronto.
Legions of automated social media bots have begun calling for the secession of Quebec, and Saudi-owned media have also launched a wave of attacks on Canada’s own human rights and prisons record.
Al Arabiya, the pan-Arab news channel, incorrectly told viewers on Wednesday that 75 per cent of prisoners in Canadian jails died before trial. Another Saudi channel aired an interview in which a pundit claimed Canada is the worst country in the world for the treatment of women. "
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 82341.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Difficult to believe that those examples of Fake News could be so dumb, maybe it's fake itself etc etc etc etc
Yes. Very fishy. Hake news?
Edited - to move my bit to the right place (?)
Though I doubt it was worth the effort.
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Yes. Very fishy. Hake news?
Edited - to move my bit to the right place (?)
Though I doubt it was worth the effort.
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Newcastle fans now know where this summer's transfer budget went, then.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... talks-fail
House of Fraser bought by Mike Ashley's Sports Direct for £90m
The rescue deal includes all of the department store chain’s outlets
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Talking of which, did anyone (HindleA) watch Leeds last Sunday?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Newcastle fans now know where this summer's transfer budget went, then.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... talks-fail
House of Fraser bought by Mike Ashley's Sports Direct for £90m
The rescue deal includes all of the department store chain’s outlets
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Definitely one for equal opportunities, DJT even attacks his mate Erdogan !
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Today’s anti-Corbynism —
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... emy-corbyn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
” You can’t go on holiday, accede to my demands, IMMEDIATELY ! “
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” You can’t go on holiday, accede to my demands, IMMEDIATELY ! “
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dance
“Dance, when you're broken open.
Dance, if you've torn the bandage off.
Dance in the middle of the fighting.
Dance in your blood.
Dance when you're perfectly free.”
- Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī
“Dance, when you're broken open.
Dance, if you've torn the bandage off.
Dance in the middle of the fighting.
Dance in your blood.
Dance when you're perfectly free.”
- Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī
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Know the result but didn't watch/haven't seen.
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Press release
Bowel screening to start at 50
Press release
Bowel screening to start at 50
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As per,the Remember Me roses prepare for the "Anniversary"
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Victorian railway station up for sale in South Yorkshire
Victorian railway station up for sale in South Yorkshire
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Pause !
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The one I linked was definitely this " come-out-of-hiding-jewish-leader-marie-van-der-zyl-tells-jeremy-corbyn"frog222 wrote:Today’s anti-Corbynism —
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... emy-corbyn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
” You can’t go on holiday, accede to my demands, IMMEDIATELY ! “
NOW it's been added to, with the same linky but new headline :
" Second union boss urges Labour to adopt full definition of antisemitism
Unison’s Dave Prentis argues that not doing so is costing party the moral high ground
So we have two unions joining the BoD !
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Just the one local council byelection yesterday:
Cornwall: Tory gain from LibDem on a swing of over 20% since last year, as the LibDems fell from over two thirds of the vote then to less than 40%. This division voted Independent at the inaugural 2009 unitary elections, then (on slightly different boundaries) UKIP in 2013 - both on winning shares of less than a third of the vote in highly fragmented contests. A previous byelection in 2016 then saw the LibDems storm to victory (as UKIP vacated the field, not to reappear as of yet) before seemingly consolidating this as safe for them last year - or so they thought. They were certainly not helped by Labour reappearing and polling a respectable 16% despite their candidate being from some distance away (and in Cornwall, that is important) This was up significantly on their last showing in 2016, though slightly down on three years earlier.
Three contests next week.
Cornwall: Tory gain from LibDem on a swing of over 20% since last year, as the LibDems fell from over two thirds of the vote then to less than 40%. This division voted Independent at the inaugural 2009 unitary elections, then (on slightly different boundaries) UKIP in 2013 - both on winning shares of less than a third of the vote in highly fragmented contests. A previous byelection in 2016 then saw the LibDems storm to victory (as UKIP vacated the field, not to reappear as of yet) before seemingly consolidating this as safe for them last year - or so they thought. They were certainly not helped by Labour reappearing and polling a respectable 16% despite their candidate being from some distance away (and in Cornwall, that is important) This was up significantly on their last showing in 2016, though slightly down on three years earlier.
Three contests next week.
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Thankyou
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Have purchased a smart 'phone ,may attempt some input at 9pm,but largely midnight during the non weekends,subject to learning the coffee drinking/smoking/operating/taking the piss out of fellow workers combination.
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Find a younger person for instruction, removal of superfluous apps etcetcetc ...HindleA wrote:Have purchased a smart 'phone ,may attempt some input at 9pm,but largely midnight during the non weekends,subject to learning the coffee drinking/smoking/operating/taking the piss out of fellow workers combination.
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They are all younger,some two generation down
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Some vape,like sitting being at a Darth Vader convention.
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They make fun of my bumbag bastards.
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What's a Bumbag ? Much after my time .HindleA wrote:They make fun of my bumbag bastards.
It’s hard to stomach, but Boris Johnson is going to be our next prime minister – here’s how he’ll do it
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ABdePJohnson for King of the World !
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Date is set for High Court challenge to Right to Rent
Date is set for High Court challenge to Right to Rent