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Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
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"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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I can't find it. Would you provide a link, please?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
(and not a surprise that Ed Miliband comes across better in it than almost everybody else)
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
Found itAnatolyKasparov wrote:Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
(and not a surprise that Ed Miliband comes across better in it than almost everybody else)
The death of consensus: how conflict came back to politics
New Labour’s ‘third way’ promised to end the clash between left and right. But did the fantasy of politics without strife create our age of anger?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... o-politics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To read, the third way sounds like the End of History 2.0 ...
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
I was cleaning the houseAnatolyKasparov wrote:Everybody too wrapped up in conference proceedings to post here, then?
baked a crumble
Local apples, raspberries and nectarines (added on a whim) & honey
Please help yourselves
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
Good-evening, everyone
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I've not defrosted the freezer yetWillow904 wrote:Just waiting to see what gets voted through (whilst defrosting the freezer, a chore I've been putting off for way too long) and reading the Angela Rayner interview in the G. She comes across quite well, I think.
I haven't read the Rayner interview either
I've met her once briefly; I enjoyed speaking with her
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
Alternative meaning - "Why bother to have a ''leader" at all, let's vote on everything ! "AnatolyKasparov wrote:Alternative translation - "I believe in party democracy"?frog222 wrote:“”I was elected leader of this Party, and I’m going to do what I’m told.””
(See the Politburo ...)
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
From Beckett:AnatolyKasparov wrote:Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
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(cJA edit)"For the many voters who dislike confrontation and feel that democracy should be about dialogue and compromise, the new political disorder is frightening."
I agree with this wholeheartedly.
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Beat you !PorFavor wrote:I can't find it. Would you provide a link, please?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Just seen Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun about the eclipse of "third way" politics. He is one of their best writers these days, and this is typically good.
(and not a surprise that Ed Miliband comes across better in it than almost everybody else)
I also looked on the frontpage, a waste of time! Found it by searching "Andy Beckett's "long read" in the Graun" , which came up with his page.
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I note that the ST is still confused about the school system in England...
That sentence simply makes no sense.
Academies can be either comprehensives (the vast majority) or selective grammars.The Sunday Times
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Just four in ten students at the top universities of Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial College went to comprehensives, academies and other mainly non-selective schools, according to findings to be published tomorrow in The Sunday Times Good University Guide
That sentence simply makes no sense.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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it makes no sense because it's inaccurate
a lie
a lie
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... t-13295635" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
@frog222
Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .
Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .
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I just do a right click to search, set to google at the mom, but others are available .PorFavor wrote:@frog222 Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .
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Still a search option at the top of the page isn't there?PorFavor wrote:@frog222
Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA
love,
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@AngelaRayner
Labour to reveal plan to scrap free schools, listen to my full speech to conference tomorrow afternoon for full announcements.
Labour to reveal plan to scrap free schools, listen to my full speech to conference tomorrow afternoon for full announcements.
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
Whether it's not there or not, much/most of the time you don't need to type anything, just select the phrase concerned and rightclick on it. The search opens itself.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Still a search option at the top of the page isn't there?PorFavor wrote:@frog222
Once upon a time, the Guardian had a search facility. Which was nice . . .
That's with Chrome, others differ ?
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
Right now on R4 a recording of Freedland knocking JC on AS , yet again !
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Margaret Hodge next up, Freedland again .
"People are fearful."
"Need for a very clear apology " etc etc etc etc etc etc
" JVL was founded to support Corbyn ...." ?????????????????????
"People are fearful."
"Need for a very clear apology " etc etc etc etc etc etc
" JVL was founded to support Corbyn ...." ?????????????????????
Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd September 2018
The papers --- "Cabinet Tories moving to Canada Plus ..."
As if that could be done in a couple of weeks/months/even years !
Javid " free access to EU citizens for an extended period"
Complete junk, all of it !
All options, STILL open .
As if that could be done in a couple of weeks/months/even years !
Javid " free access to EU citizens for an extended period"
Complete junk, all of it !
All options, STILL open .
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Hmmm...Just got in and it's 14.5 degrees in here, I think it may be time to put the heating on without being a massive wuss or irresponsible waster of Gaia's resources.
My awesome cardigan is no match for this kind of temperature.
Anyway woke up this morning to sounds of Corbyn being forced to accept the fact that 97% of his fanbase wanted a 'people's vote', so I lay back in bed and waited for the inevitable backlash from his mates and within half an hour we had Len McCluskey poo pooing the whole thing then a bunch of other Labour non entities trying to claim it would be a gift to the far right.
What the fuck? Brexit has already been a fucking gift to the far right, and not just them but every other racist idiot who previously would have remained quiet but is now emboldened to express their view in public.
I'd like to take Corbyn around Yorkshire for a day on the bus to hear the kind of shit I hear from the denizens of 'gods own county'.
My awesome cardigan is no match for this kind of temperature.
Anyway woke up this morning to sounds of Corbyn being forced to accept the fact that 97% of his fanbase wanted a 'people's vote', so I lay back in bed and waited for the inevitable backlash from his mates and within half an hour we had Len McCluskey poo pooing the whole thing then a bunch of other Labour non entities trying to claim it would be a gift to the far right.
What the fuck? Brexit has already been a fucking gift to the far right, and not just them but every other racist idiot who previously would have remained quiet but is now emboldened to express their view in public.
I'd like to take Corbyn around Yorkshire for a day on the bus to hear the kind of shit I hear from the denizens of 'gods own county'.
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"" to hear the kind of shit I hear from the denizens of 'gods own county'.""
Demahcracy, yuh gotta love it
Demahcracy, yuh gotta love it
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Democracy is fine as long as half of those voting aren't ignorant morons who refuse to learn anything from anything.
I don't know what to do about this.
Nobody does.
It'll probably be the death of humanity.
I don't know what to do about this.
Nobody does.
It'll probably be the death of humanity.
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Actually what will be the death of humanity is rich fuckwits in Silicon valley having access to treatments and implants and becoming even bigger dicks than they already are. Then we have the first AI then almost instantly we end.
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All that's left is to get drunk and stoned and hide in music and books or any other form of escapism that tickles your fancy.
Or just carry on regardless.
Or just carry on regardless.
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I am now programmed to tell you all how wonderful the future will be. It will be like everything you love mixed with a giant mountain of awesome.