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Wednesday 23rd October 2018

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Morning all.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's too late to prepare UK borders for no-deal Brexit, National Audit Office tells Theresa May
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tory Universal Credit 'delay' will make no difference for 3million cash-strapped Brits

Delay means far less transitionally protected ,of course,particular pernicious for the usual targets.

"It doesn’t make sense that a change of circumstance – like moving to an adapted house to manage your disability – could mean a benefit cut"*

Covering all angles,room for care deemed spare,interest bearing loan at best ?for homeowners you breach a DFG agreement if you do move.

*It does make sense according to a particular mindset.
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Sorry not targets "difficult situations"(apparently)
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"We spend ever less per head with each successive year when we should be spending far more"A rogue truthbot stated before being dismantled.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-abortion" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Labour MPs in fresh bid to legalise abortion in Northern Ireland
Interesting questions being raised about human rights, democracy and devolution. The government are passing legislation to take control in NI but simultaneously arguing devolution prevents them taking control of making crucial decisions for NI that impact human rights because addressing these issues are politically inconvenient to them. Against a backdrop of Brexit and the reform of abortion laws in the Republic of Ireland, these issues are becoming unavoidable, but May will nevertheless attempt to avoid them because of her own precarious position.
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Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-abortion
Labour MPs in fresh bid to legalise abortion in Northern Ireland
Interesting questions being raised about human rights, democracy and devolution. The government are passing legislation to take control in NI but simultaneously arguing devolution prevents them taking control of making crucial decisions for NI that impact human rights because addressing these issues are politically inconvenient to them. Against a backdrop of Brexit and the reform of abortion laws in the Republic of Ireland, these issues are becoming unavoidable, but May will nevertheless attempt to avoid them because of her own precarious position.
I know this is an obvious comment, but the NI government and the DUP particularly want to have it both ways - it is so essential that they are not treated any differently to the rest of the UK in areas that they don't want to be treated differently that doing so would be enough to bring the withdrawal agreement and possibly even the government down, and it is so essential that they are treated differently to the rest of the UK in areas where they do want to be treated differently that not doing so would be enough to possibly bring the government down.

Interestingly so far as I can see Sinn Fein support the ROI position.
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The Freight Haulage Association are one of the organisations giving evidence to the leave select committee this morning. Their manifesto for arrangements on leaving the EU is here - essentially they need things to be exactly as they are now. Good luck with that. What they need to do this morning is engage with the detail of what will happen not just in the event of no deal but also in the event of an FTA without a close association agreement - for all of these sectors it will, as a starting point, mean the end of the present arrangements and much more restrictive regulations in place.
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Guy Verhofstadt

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Progress on the #Brexit negotiations can be 90%, 95% or even 99%, but as long as there is no solution for the Irish border, as long as the Good Friday agreement is not fully secured, for us in our Parliament progress is 0%.

9:23 AM - Oct 24, 2018
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gilsey wrote:Guy Verhofstadt

@guyverhofstadt
Progress on the #Brexit negotiations can be 90%, 95% or even 99%, but as long as there is no solution for the Irish border, as long as the Good Friday agreement is not fully secured, for us in our Parliament progress is 0%.

9:23 AM - Oct 24, 2018
"95% progress" doesn't mean that much if the other 5% is the difficult bit.
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Good-morning, everyone
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:"95% progress" doesn't mean that much if the other 5% is the difficult bit.
I'm treating that figure with the same degree of suspicion as a progress bar on my computer.

[edit: general sleepiness]
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GetYou wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:"95% progress" doesn't mean that much if the other 5% is the difficult bit.
I'm treating that figure with the same degree of suspicion as a progress bar on my computer.

[edit: general sleepiness]
:lol!:
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Ah, the good old days (or not) of dial-up modems!! :D
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ah, the good old days (or not) of dial-up modems!! :D
I remember
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Good morfternoon.

I'm losing track of the days of the week. Is it crunchday again?
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She got that metal chain 'round her neck
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PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

I'm losing track of the days of the week. Is it crunchday again?
Isn't that every day now?
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simon wren-lewis @sjwrenlewis

Apparently the Prime Minister quoted me saying about Labour's 2017 manifesto "the numbers did not add up" In fact I said "Let us suppose the IFS was correct" and examined consequences. I have never taken a view on whether they did/didn't add up. If that is what she said, she lied
1:14 PM - Oct 24, 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
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https://amp.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ssion=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government's rogue landlord list empty after six months
Database billed as key to protecting renters is empty, and is closed to public
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PorFavor wrote:
simon wren-lewis @sjwrenlewis

Apparently the Prime Minister quoted me saying about Labour's 2017 manifesto "the numbers did not add up" In fact I said "Let us suppose the IFS was correct" and examined consequences. I have never taken a view on whether they did/didn't add up. If that is what she said, she lied
1:14 PM - Oct 24, 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
I presume that our fearless political journalists will be all over this?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
simon wren-lewis @sjwrenlewis

Apparently the Prime Minister quoted me saying about Labour's 2017 manifesto "the numbers did not add up" In fact I said "Let us suppose the IFS was correct" and examined consequences. I have never taken a view on whether they did/didn't add up. If that is what she said, she lied
1:14 PM - Oct 24, 2018 (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
I presume that our fearless political journalists will be all over this?
Oh, definitely. This vicious attack from the Guardian is testimony-

19m ago Economist quoted by May at PMQs says she was wrong (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Oh, I've just remembered - and Theresa May (PMQs) appears to think that "more women in the workplace" = "equality".
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PorFavor wrote:Oh, I've just remembered - and Theresa May (PMQs) appears to think that "more women in the workplace" = "equality".
girl jobs and boy jobs?
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off topic
I've secured some provisions
help yourselves
grapes & biscuits
good deal on cocoa
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PorFavor wrote:Oh, I've just remembered - and Theresa May (PMQs) appears to think that "more women in the workplace" = "equality".
Also seeming to believe that welfare policy creates jobs, apparently. Quite a few misconceptions to pack into half an hour.......
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After what may well be the last sea-swim of the year cocoa is not enough !

A box of 13% Merlot and a roaring woodstove is now unfreezing me :-)
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Oh, I've just remembered - and Theresa May (PMQs) appears to think that "more women in the workplace" = "equality".
Also seeming to believe that welfare policy creates jobs, apparently. Quite a few misconceptions to pack into half an hour.......
"More women in the workplace " , as in thousands of them sewing clothes in Bangladesh .... ?
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Thawing out, so now off to read the evening lesson according to M. Crace

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... statistics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No prisoners !
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” Fuel laundering was a massive business during the Troubles and centred on the resale of cheaper agricultural fuel as motor fuel.

It was estimated the UK exchequer was losing between £250m and £350m a year and half the filling stations in Northern Ireland were selling their washed product.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... t-mps-told" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Brexiteers and the BigTime and even Small Time CRIMINALS are friends under the skin .

As one might say .

pace Rudyard Kipling .
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Trump has, to give him his limited due, roundly condemned the "MAGAbomb" threats.

Which makes his supporters on social media who were indulging in apologism and whataboutery look all the sadder.
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goodnight, everyone
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