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Everybody in bed at sunset ? :-)

The term Fake News , which we could equally call Lying Press “Lügenpresse” has a long and horrible history going back to the 19C and even rare uses before that .

Donald Trump borrows from the old tricks of fascism Timothy Snyder
'The idea that the powerful are victims who must be coddled arose in a setting that recalls the United States of today'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pittsburgh

The attraction of the Nazi conspiracy thinking is that we can feel like victims when we attack. Its vulnerability is that the world is full of facts. Hence Hitler’s hostility to journalism. In the Germany of the early 1930s, the newspaper industry was suffering after a financial crisis. Hitler and other Nazis used the idea of the “Lügenpresse” (“fake news”) to attack remaining journalists who were trying to report the facts. In Germany and Austria today, the far right once more speaks of the Lügenpresse, in part because the American president has made the idea respectable. The extreme right in Germany and Austria knows perfectly well that “fake news” is American English for Lügenpresse. ”

Very good .

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CRACE Corbyn and Maybot, the love story, as revealed in peculiar interpretive dance

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Everybody in bed at sunset ? :-)


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https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true

An article in the Guardian by the chair of the DCMS committee Damian Collins and it's quite extraordinary. If anyone can recall anything similar happening to this in the past I'd be curious to hear because it's off the scale nuts:
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Arron Banks, the chairman of Leave.EU, has taken the unusual step of writing to each household in my parliamentary constituency of Folkestone and Hythe, telling them that I am a “disgrace” and a “snake in the grass”. He claims that “I have never respected the result of the [Brexit] referendum.” However, he is unable to point to anything in my voting record in parliament to substantiate his assertion.


I mean this is seriously not normal, surely?!

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Willow904 wrote:
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/31/arron-banks-brexit-disinformation?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true An article in the Guardian by the chair of the DCMS committee Damian Collins and it's quite extraordinary. If anyone can recall anything similar happening to this in the past I'd be curious to hear because it's off the scale nuts:
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Arron Banks, the chairman of Leave.EU, has taken the unusual step of writing to each household in my parliamentary constituency of Folkestone and Hythe, telling them that I am a “disgrace” and a “snake in the grass”. He claims that “I have never respected the result of the [Brexit] referendum.” However, he is unable to point to anything in my voting record in parliament to substantiate his assertion.


I mean this is seriously not normal, surely?!

Accusing him of "sharing a platform with a Gdn journalist" I found significant too ... see my 6.14 on that . Somebody should be doing forensic work on his accounts, surely ?


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It's just all over the place.

Saying they wouldn't put up income tax from where it was during the 2017 election doesn't stop them from opposing a tax cut now or forces them to maintain that cut in a future manifesto. Labour doesn't need to commit to a tax policy at all, they're in opposition.

Besides, I don't really agree with their taxing "top 5% and corporations" only policy more generally. Tory tax erosion is a huge problem building up for the future and consequently such a commitment is going to seriously tie their hands if they ever get into power.


I must admit that it's a bit Harmanesque.



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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2018 7:25 pm 
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PorFavor wrote:
Willow904 wrote:
It's just all over the place. Saying they wouldn't put up income tax from where it was during the 2017 election doesn't stop them from opposing a tax cut now or forces them to maintain that cut in a future manifesto. Labour doesn't need to commit to a tax policy at all, they're in opposition. Besides, I don't really agree with their taxing "top 5% and corporations" only policy more generally. Tory tax erosion is a huge problem building up for the future and consequently such a commitment is going to seriously tie their hands if they ever get into power.

I must admit that it's a bit Harmanesque.
Also, now that we have these 'computer' things I find the old system of tax bands rather crazy when you could smooth taxes out with a sliding scale ? The same applies to benefits payments to those unemployed finding part-time work .
Or have I missed something ??


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Home Office tells Northern Irish woman to prove right to live in Belfast

Gemma Capparelli left in limbo after applying for residency documents for US husband

The Home office has told a woman born and brought up in Northern Ireland she needs to provide proof that she is entitled to permanent residency in Belfast after she applied for a residency document for her American husband.

Gemma Capparelli, 36, has just returned to Northern Ireland with her Chicago-born husband Dominic, 38, and their 10-year-old son, after living abroad for more than a decade.(Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/31/home-office-tells-northern-irish-woman-to-prove-right-to-live-in-belfast


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Everybody in bed at sunset ? :-)


Hope that my review didn't send them to sleep :)
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2018 7:29 pm 
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Jaywick !

But the repuglicans have an old photo ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ump-advert


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https://discussion.theguardian.com/comm ... /122074566

Fishgirl23's list of Trump inciting physical violence .


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Universal credit rollout loading 'unreasonable risk' on to claimants

Government adviser Sir Ian Diamond warns thousands could be pushed into hardship


The government’s expert adviser on social security has warned that the next phase in the rollout of universal credit could see thousands of claimants pushed into hardship or even fall out of the benefit system altogether.

Sir Ian Diamond, the chair of the Social Security Advisory Committee (SSAC), a formal body providing advice to the work and pensions secretary, said plans to move 3 million people to the benefit from next year loaded an “unreasonable level of risk” on to claimants. (Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/31/universal-credit-rollout-loading-unreasonable-risk-on-to-claimants

But, as I'm sure we all agree, it's a good idea in principle. It's just a shame that it'll never work in practice . . .


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Police taking legal action against the Tories, surely the traditional Party of Law 'an Order ? :-)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... udget-cuts


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As a change from Trumpology , some GOPology .

The gleeful redistricting of swathes of the US to give them an unjustified majority of seats .


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