Wednesday 31st October 2018
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My PTB was Please Turn Back, because I had nothing useful to say and for some reason my twitter isn't working
But now you're here JA please don't turn back!
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Everybody in bed at sunset ?
The term Fake News , which we could equally call Lying Press “Lügenpresse” has a long and horrible history going back to the 19C and even rare uses before that .
Donald Trump borrows from the old tricks of fascism Timothy Snyder
'The idea that the powerful are victims who must be coddled arose in a setting that recalls the United States of today'
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” The attraction of the Nazi conspiracy thinking is that we can feel like victims when we attack. Its vulnerability is that the world is full of facts. Hence Hitler’s hostility to journalism. In the Germany of the early 1930s, the newspaper industry was suffering after a financial crisis. Hitler and other Nazis used the idea of the “Lügenpresse” (“fake news”) to attack remaining journalists who were trying to report the facts. In Germany and Austria today, the far right once more speaks of the Lügenpresse, in part because the American president has made the idea respectable. The extreme right in Germany and Austria knows perfectly well that “fake news” is American English for Lügenpresse. ”
Very good .
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The term Fake News , which we could equally call Lying Press “Lügenpresse” has a long and horrible history going back to the 19C and even rare uses before that .
Donald Trump borrows from the old tricks of fascism Timothy Snyder
'The idea that the powerful are victims who must be coddled arose in a setting that recalls the United States of today'
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pittsburgh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
” The attraction of the Nazi conspiracy thinking is that we can feel like victims when we attack. Its vulnerability is that the world is full of facts. Hence Hitler’s hostility to journalism. In the Germany of the early 1930s, the newspaper industry was suffering after a financial crisis. Hitler and other Nazis used the idea of the “Lügenpresse” (“fake news”) to attack remaining journalists who were trying to report the facts. In Germany and Austria today, the far right once more speaks of the Lügenpresse, in part because the American president has made the idea respectable. The extreme right in Germany and Austria knows perfectly well that “fake news” is American English for Lügenpresse. ”
Very good .
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/the-omi ... -1.5438960" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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CRACE Corbyn and Maybot, the love story, as revealed in peculiar interpretive dance
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Hope that my review didn't send them to sleepfrog222 wrote:Everybody in bed at sunset ?
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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An article in the Guardian by the chair of the DCMS committee Damian Collins and it's quite extraordinary. If anyone can recall anything similar happening to this in the past I'd be curious to hear because it's off the scale nuts:
An article in the Guardian by the chair of the DCMS committee Damian Collins and it's quite extraordinary. If anyone can recall anything similar happening to this in the past I'd be curious to hear because it's off the scale nuts:
I mean this is seriously not normal, surely?!Arron Banks, the chairman of Leave.EU, has taken the unusual step of writing to each household in my parliamentary constituency of Folkestone and Hythe, telling them that I am a “disgrace” and a “snake in the grass”. He claims that “I have never respected the result of the [Brexit] referendum.” However, he is unable to point to anything in my voting record in parliament to substantiate his assertion.
"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
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Accusing him of "sharing a platform with a Gdn journalist" I found significant too ... see my 6.14 on that . Somebody should be doing forensic work on his accounts, surely ?Willow904 wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true An article in the Guardian by the chair of the DCMS committee Damian Collins and it's quite extraordinary. If anyone can recall anything similar happening to this in the past I'd be curious to hear because it's off the scale nuts:I mean this is seriously not normal, surely?!Arron Banks, the chairman of Leave.EU, has taken the unusual step of writing to each household in my parliamentary constituency of Folkestone and Hythe, telling them that I am a “disgrace” and a “snake in the grass”. He claims that “I have never respected the result of the [Brexit] referendum.” However, he is unable to point to anything in my voting record in parliament to substantiate his assertion.
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I must admit that it's a bit Harmanesque.Willow904 wrote:It's just all over the place.
Saying they wouldn't put up income tax from where it was during the 2017 election doesn't stop them from opposing a tax cut now or forces them to maintain that cut in a future manifesto. Labour doesn't need to commit to a tax policy at all, they're in opposition.
Besides, I don't really agree with their taxing "top 5% and corporations" only policy more generally. Tory tax erosion is a huge problem building up for the future and consequently such a commitment is going to seriously tie their hands if they ever get into power.
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@PaulfromYorkshire
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I must admit that it's a bit Harmanesque.PorFavor wrote:Willow904 wrote:It's just all over the place. Saying they wouldn't put up income tax from where it was during the 2017 election doesn't stop them from opposing a tax cut now or forces them to maintain that cut in a future manifesto. Labour doesn't need to commit to a tax policy at all, they're in opposition. Besides, I don't really agree with their taxing "top 5% and corporations" only policy more generally. Tory tax erosion is a huge problem building up for the future and consequently such a commitment is going to seriously tie their hands if they ever get into power.
Also, now that we have these 'computer' things I find the old system of tax bands rather crazy when you could smooth taxes out with a sliding scale ? The same applies to benefits payments to those unemployed finding part-time work .
Or have I missed something ??
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... in-belfastHome Office tells Northern Irish woman to prove right to live in Belfast
Gemma Capparelli left in limbo after applying for residency documents for US husband
The Home office has told a woman born and brought up in Northern Ireland she needs to provide proof that she is entitled to permanent residency in Belfast after she applied for a residency document for her American husband.
Gemma Capparelli, 36, has just returned to Northern Ireland with her Chicago-born husband Dominic, 38, and their 10-year-old son, after living abroad for more than a decade.(Guardian)
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NopeAnatolyKasparov wrote:Hope that my review didn't send them to sleepfrog222 wrote:Everybody in bed at sunset ?
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Jaywick !
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Jaywick !
But the repuglicans have an old photo ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ump-advert" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Fishgirl23's list of Trump inciting physical violence .
Fishgirl23's list of Trump inciting physical violence .
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -claimantsUniversal credit rollout loading 'unreasonable risk' on to claimants
Government adviser Sir Ian Diamond warns thousands could be pushed into hardship
The government’s expert adviser on social security has warned that the next phase in the rollout of universal credit could see thousands of claimants pushed into hardship or even fall out of the benefit system altogether.
Sir Ian Diamond, the chair of the Social Security Advisory Committee (SSAC), a formal body providing advice to the work and pensions secretary, said plans to move 3 million people to the benefit from next year loaded an “unreasonable level of risk” on to claimants. (Guardian)
But, as I'm sure we all agree, it's a good idea in principle. It's just a shame that it'll never work in practice . . .
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Police taking legal action against the Tories, surely the traditional Party of Law 'an Order ?
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As a change from Trumpology , some GOPology .
The gleeful redistricting of swathes of the US to give them an unjustified majority of seats .
As a change from Trumpology , some GOPology .
The gleeful redistricting of swathes of the US to give them an unjustified majority of seats .
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Goodnight, everyone
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