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No TV here, but cringeworthy sums it up !RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Anyone catch the first one of Inside The Foreign Office last night?
I found it very interesting and quite entertaining - especially Boris' first address to the FCO staff - there were some pictured who clearly were in no mood to applaud when he was introduced and his little speech was cringeworthy stuff.
The staff must have been thinking "What have we done to deserve him?"
WHAT HAPPENS IF PARLIAMENT REJECTS MAY'S BREXIT DEAL?
Andrew Lilico was on that case yesterday afternoon......RogerOThornhill wrote:Gove has clearly decided he likes the ministerial car and trappings of office too much to want to give them up.
Cue cries of "Traitor!" from Brexiteers...
The quality of people put in that key position is just alarming and has led to where we are now.Simon Fraser
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David Davis was a terrible #Brexit Secretary. He could hardly be bothered to go to Brussels & rapidly lost respect there. Preposterous for him now to suggest that EU deliberately delayed negotiations. They spent months waiting for him to engage..
Nothing we don't already know, but some of the descriptions in the report are pretty eye-catching:UK austerity has inflicted 'great misery' on citizens, UN says
Well we know it isn't economic necessity because it's costing us more money to find ways to deny people benefits than it would cost to just give them benefits but it's nice to see it officially confirmed by an objective expert.The UK government has inflicted “great misery” on its people with “punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous” austerity policies driven by a political desire to undertake social re-engineering rather than economic necessity, the United Nations poverty envoy has found.
And there are now rumours May will formalise that by taking the post herself. Would surely be a red rag to her critics, though?RogerOThornhill wrote:The quality of people put in that key position is just alarming and has led to where we are now.Simon Fraser
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David Davis was a terrible #Brexit Secretary. He could hardly be bothered to go to Brussels & rapidly lost respect there. Preposterous for him now to suggest that EU deliberately delayed negotiations. They spent months waiting for him to engage..
It's almost comical that Brexiteers claim that it is Remoaners fault...
Edit - and you can see why No 10 was forced to take the lead on negotiations.
Wednesday's Aditya is an excellent overall one on the UN visit - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... poverty-uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... icide-risk
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BREAK: She’s back! Amber Rudd new work and pensions secretary
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If you wanted to list some of the very worst MPs you couldn't go far wrong with this bunch of wrong 'uns.Laura Kuenssberg
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1. Those who have gone public-Andrea Jenkyns, Andrew Bridgen, Philip Davies, James Duddridge, Anne Marie Morris, Lawrence Robertson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Nadine Dorries, Simon Clarke, Steve Baker, Henry Smith, Maria Caulfield, Sheryll Murray, Lee Rowley, Martin Vickers, Peter Bone
.... gone a bit 'public-Andrea Jenkyns' (misread it, but might catch on)RogerOThornhill wrote:If you wanted to list some of the very worst MPs you couldn't go far wrong with this bunch of wrong 'uns.Laura Kuenssberg
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1. Those who have gone public-Andrea Jenkyns, Andrew Bridgen, Philip Davies, James Duddridge, Anne Marie Morris, Lawrence Robertson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Nadine Dorries, Simon Clarke, Steve Baker, Henry Smith, Maria Caulfield, Sheryll Murray, Lee Rowley, Martin Vickers, Peter Bone
Wasn't Bridgen called a "something twerp" in the Commons yesterday?
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NEW The new Brexit Secretary is Stephen Barclay MP, previously a junior Health Minister. But his brief will not include negotiating with the EU which Mrs May will take sole charge of.
In a message apparently aimed at rebel MPs, Dr Fox said: “I hope that we all take a rational and reasonable view of this. We are not elected to do what we want, we are elected to do what’s in the national interest.
“Ultimately I hope that across parliament we recognise that a deal is better than no deal. Businesses do require certainty, confidence as they go forward for their planning.
That's exactly why he has been appointed, I suspect.RogerOThornhill wrote:Who?
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NEW The new Brexit Secretary is Stephen Barclay MP, previously a junior Health Minister. But his brief will not include negotiating with the EU which Mrs May will take sole charge of.
S'OK, she can always blame her predecessors...Jessica Elgot
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TSGO's QT Report hereAnatolyKasparov wrote:Didn't watch it, but it appears that Claire Perry libelled Corbyn on last night's QT?
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Interesting passage from Leo McKinstry’s biography of Geoff Boycott when the England team had to run out their own captain (Boycott) for the benefit of the team. England went on to win by 174 runs.
Their customer David Miller, who described himself as a welder and an evangelist, said he felt a little sorry for Theresa May. “She had this dumped on her and I think she’s handling it as best she can. She’s under immense pressure.”
Miller said he voted to leave because he thought Brussels imposed some “silly” laws on the UK. “Why should we be dominated by them?” But he also had an unusual main reason for supporting leave. “I follow the prophesies in the Bible and a split in Europe was prophesied. Europe will never unite again. God has said so.”
Morons, to a (wo)man.RogerOThornhill wrote:Gotta love some of the things in here...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... lietEUzcHM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My favourite...
Their customer David Miller, who described himself as a welder and an evangelist, said he felt a little sorry for Theresa May. “She had this dumped on her and I think she’s handling it as best she can. She’s under immense pressure.”
Miller said he voted to leave because he thought Brussels imposed some “silly” laws on the UK. “Why should we be dominated by them?” But he also had an unusual main reason for supporting leave. “I follow the prophesies in the Bible and a split in Europe was prophesied. Europe will never unite again. God has said so.”
Slight delay I'm afraid, should appear over the weekendPaulfromYorkshire wrote:By-election round up
Where is it?
Linky ?refitman wrote:Caroline Flint can do one. Terrible piece in the Graun.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -eu-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;frog222 wrote:Linky ?refitman wrote:Caroline Flint can do one. Terrible piece in the Graun.
refitman wrote:Caroline Flint can do one. Terrible piece in the Graun.
Why would an MP admitting this decide writing more and submitting it is confusing"I have no idea what is going to happen next. The Government is imploding. While chaos reigns, few are focusing on the details. MPs promote agendas that have little to do with the agreement. Debate remains polarised."
It's unimpressive and not Labour policy.RogerOThornhill wrote:Sounds like Flint can't be bothered to try and explain when her constituents ask her "Why haven't we left yet?"
I'm not saying she should tell them they're idiots but a little "Well, it's a bit more complicated than people think" wouldn't go amiss.
Not sure that having a dig at your fellow Labour MPs is that impressive really.
tinybgoat wrote:'Jack of Kent' blog:
"Why the draft withdrawal agreement may be the only responsible option"
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Other options exist for the UK"...if there is a development which means the UK seeks an extension of the Article 50 period, or even revokes the notification, then the ultimatum of this text or No Deal becomes far less urgent."
Yes, they're scarier than hellgilsey wrote:Alan Finlayson
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I do feel like I wasted a lot of time learning (and teaching) elaborate theories for explaining outcomes in British Politics, on the day it becomes evident the determining factor is that the people in charge are utter dipshits.
Professor of Political & Social Theory at UEA (it's a university in Norwich).