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It seems some of her supporters have gone beyond "May's deal or no deal" and are tentatively floating the nuclear option - "May's deal or an election".frog222 wrote:” zitan 11m ago If I sign up to support the Guardian, will the tiresome exhortations to do so disappear from my screen?
Just got around to the Crace
MPs pile on from all sides to trash May's Brexit non-deal deal
PM promises some things will happen if other unspecified things also happen, and no one agrees
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Yes, but so was Melanie Phillips!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Have to sat that Sky's review of QT last night was even better than usual.
Agree on how good Lewis is, and also suspect that Hartley-Spewer is an act to a significant degree.
(she used to be a Graun journalist and regularly express liberal sentiments, don't forget)
The CBI has inadvertently sent ITV News internal emails which highlight a difference between the confederation’s public views about the Brexit political declaration and those held inside the organisation.
The CBI’s Head of EU Negotiations, Nicole Sykes, argued there was “no need to give credit to negotiators I think, because it’s not a good deal.” (Politics Live, Guardian)
Is that a leadership or General Election? ( Been away, actually sleeping, I may have a bug !)AnatolyKasparov wrote:
It seems some of her supporters have gone beyond "May's deal or no deal" and are tentatively floating the nuclear option - "May's deal or an election".
Of course the sensible answer to deadlock would be an A50 extension - but our PM has said that will never happen, so........
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I don’t give a stuff for the conspiracy theories - Sir John Hayes is one of the nicest and most considerate MPs in the House. Well deserved K.
8:39 AM - 23 Nov 2018
When I was growing up in Australia I had a book that had belonged to my Great Aunt. It was literally full of facts about Britain the greatest country on Earth. There were facts about the Empire – facts about King George the Vth who ruled over it all – really funny jokes about Irish people – pictures of Bobbies on bicycles and children with golden hair buying apples from cheerful men with straw in their mouths. You can imagine my disappointment when I arrived at Heathrow and didn’t see any of this. The King was now a woman – probably to placate feminists. The Sun wasn’t shining. And to this day I have not seen a Bobby on a bicycle or a girl with blonde hair buying apples from a man with straw in his mouth. When I told an Irish person how funny he was because Irish people are always doing stupid things he accused me of telling offensive jokes. That is typical of the kind of abuse I get for believing in a Better Britain.
"...if any amendments were to be carried against the government, the prime minister would have lost her authority. She could hardly return to Brussels to say: “Parliament will not back me – will you please give me something better?” The EU would reply: “We only deal with those enjoying democratic legitimacy.” The truth is, if the bill is not passed in an unamended form, the government will not be able to ratify the agreement."
- Vernon Bogdanor
We’re heading for a second referendum – and maybe a third
An utterly terrible person in every wayRogerOThornhill wrote:So out of the blue, John Hayes gets a knighthood...
and most people are reasonably certain it's connected with him backing May even though he's a long-standing Eurosceptic.
But hold on what does that well-known ex-Labour MP think?
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I don’t give a stuff for the conspiracy theories - Sir John Hayes is one of the nicest and most considerate MPs in the House. Well deserved K.
8:39 AM - 23 Nov 2018
Woo-hoo!thaumaturge wrote:Hello everyone - I see some familiar names here! Have been meaning to visit for ages, and had no idea that Refitman was behind this.
Thanks to frog222 for alerting me to this, and SkysGoneOut's excellent synopses of QT.
Where's the asterisk footnote in the social care image you've posted, please?HindleA wrote:-
Wotcha Thaum! Nice to see you over here.thaumaturge wrote:Hello everyone - I see some familiar names here! Have been meaning to visit for ages, and had no idea that Refitman was behind this.
Thanks to frog222 for alerting me to this, and SkysGoneOut's excellent synopses of QT.
You're not telling me that you can watch several rugby matches at the same time, provide excellent commentary on them all, *and* monitor this site as well?refitman wrote:Wotcha Thaum! Nice to see you over here.thaumaturge wrote:Hello everyone - I see some familiar names here! Have been meaning to visit for ages, and had no idea that Refitman was behind this.
Thanks to frog222 for alerting me to this, and SkysGoneOut's excellent synopses of QT.
Which is precisely the hypothesising we had at WADDYA over MAM ( Moveanymountains -- wasn't it?)thaumaturge wrote: You're not telling me that you can watch several rugby matches at the same time, provide excellent commentary on them all, *and* monitor this site as well?
I'm convinced you have either several brains or several helpers. Probably the former.
Oh yes, I'd nearly forgotten about MAM.frog222 wrote:Which is precisely the hypothesising we had at WADDYA over MAM ( Moveanymountains -- wasn't it?)thaumaturge wrote: You're not telling me that you can watch several rugby matches at the same time, provide excellent commentary on them all, *and* monitor this site as well?
I'm convinced you have either several brains or several helpers. Probably the former.
I thought there were several MAM's , unless of course there was just ONE , financed by Guardian Central to work (almost) around the clock ...
The only momentary bright spot seems to be the (temporary) humiliation of pretend aristocrat Jacob Rees-Mogg , a sort of Talentless Mr Ripley whose ERG coup against May has failed to ignite. When Michael Corleone is to attempt an assassination in The Godfather, his elder brother Sonny is all over the arrangements. “I want somebody good – and I mean good – to plant that gun,” he declares. “I don’t want my brother coming out of that toilet with just his dick in his hands.”
Well. I’m sorry for the image, but it does currently look as though Rees-Mogg has come out of the water closet with just his proverbial in his hands. That said, he could easily be back on top of the underworld in a fortnight. Such are our cuckoo times.