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Friday 8th March 2019
Morning all.
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Morning - do make sure to read SkysGoneOut from last night - a one off QT review.
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Nice by-election win for Greens from Tories in Haddenham.
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I hadn't seen this before. Comedian Richard Herring spends all day on International Women's Day searching Twitter for men asking when International Men's Day is and tells them it's 19 November.
He uses the attention this generates to raise funds for the Refuge charity.
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He uses the attention this generates to raise funds for the Refuge charity.
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Doing the rounds on Twitter
Theresa May in NI two days before the Referendum highlighting the inevitability of a hard border after Brexit.
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Theresa May in NI two days before the Referendum highlighting the inevitability of a hard border after Brexit.
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As I have said before, Jess Phillips when pointing in the right direction can be extremely effective.
She's been fantastic this week on women's rights, in responding to Hammond's absurd idea that the Police should simply prioritise knife crime over other duties and some other stuff too.
Credit where it's due.
She's been fantastic this week on women's rights, in responding to Hammond's absurd idea that the Police should simply prioritise knife crime over other duties and some other stuff too.
Credit where it's due.
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My opinion of Phillips is probably well known by now, but she is one of the "go to" Corbyn critics (Wes Streeting is another) who does sometimes remember that the Tories are supposed to be the main enemy. It is no coincidence that most of the TIG defectors had long ago stopped even pretending to think that.
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Good morfternoon.
@PaulfromYorkshire
What was yesterday's anagram solution, please? I couldn't get it.
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What was yesterday's anagram solution, please? I couldn't get it.
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I think it was Tom Watson's Future Britain GroupPorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
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What was yesterday's anagram solution, please? I couldn't get it.
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Grassyarse.
Grassyarse.
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"was identified that some members of staff had made the people they supported pay for staff meals while on trips "
The that's what DLA/PIP is for ruse has been around since inception
The that's what DLA/PIP is for ruse has been around since inception
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I just did and highly recommend it.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning - do make sure to read SkysGoneOut from last night - a one off QT review.
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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May saying "don't vote for my deal and we might not leave the EU with one.........or we might not leave at all".
Neither of those things will be an incentive to vote for it with many MPs!
Neither of those things will be an incentive to vote for it with many MPs!
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An astute current political analysis - this is the UK as is - reality, not preferred stories. Forgetting it causes grief to ourselves, others and nation.AnatolyKasparov wrote:My opinion of Phillips is probably well known by now, but she is one of the "go to" Corbyn critics (Wes Streeting is another) who does sometimes remember that the Tories are supposed to be the main enemy. It is no coincidence that most of the TIG defectors had long ago stopped even pretending to think that.
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Theresa May uses her visit to Grimsby to give a party political (ie anti-Labour) broadcast. She does that a lot. Don't her audiences feel that they are being used? And when is she going to address a "Remainer" location in her bid to "bring the country (back) together"?
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The best psychological and demographic tools money can buy is an algorithm indicating places likeliest achieving thePorFavor wrote:Theresa May uses her visit to Grimsby to give a party political (ie anti-Labour) broadcast. She does that a lot. Don't her audiences feel that they are being used? And when is she going to address a "Remainer" location in her bid to "bring the country (back) together"?
Audiences are a secondary consideration, all the more reason to despise Tory's cynical usage.
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This - speaking in front of captive audiences to imply "authenticity" - was something started by Blair, but it really took off under his "heir" Cameron.PorFavor wrote:Theresa May uses her visit to Grimsby to give a party political (ie anti-Labour) broadcast. She does that a lot. Don't her audiences feel that they are being used? And when is she going to address a "Remainer" location in her bid to "bring the country (back) together"?
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I can't help but take this seriously, she's said this repeatedlyAnatolyKasparov wrote:May saying "don't vote for my deal and we might not leave the EU with one.........or we might not leave at all".
Neither of those things will be an incentive to vote for it with many MPs!
Does she ultimately intend to rescind Article 50 prior the end of this month?
The bloody difficult woman can't have any compunction for not doing it
She couldn't care less about anyone but herself and her party's hold on UK leadership
I think snuffing Brexit would help achieve that, done at the right time
I'd be relieved though I'd never trust her or her party
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"authority"AnatolyKasparov wrote:This - speaking in front of captive audiences to imply "authenticity" - was something started by Blair, but it really took off under his "heir" Cameron.PorFavor wrote:Theresa May uses her visit to Grimsby to give a party political (ie anti-Labour) broadcast. She does that a lot. Don't her audiences feel that they are being used? And when is she going to address a "Remainer" location in her bid to "bring the country (back) together"?
May wants to assert 'authority'
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HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ive-months
(cJA bold)The actuaries said the evidence of slowing life expectancy that first emerged around 2010-11 is “a trend as opposed to a blip”.
Falling longevity has accelerated. Last year’s analysis cut forecasted life expectancy by two months. This year it took off another six months.
Compared with 2015, projections for life expectancy are now down by 13 months for men and 14 months for women.
Read this last night. Shocking data.
(cJA bold)Tom Selby, senior analyst at the investment firm AJ Bell, said: “It is somewhat ironic that this latest downgrade in life expectancy projections comes the day after the first increase in the state pension age came into force. If life expectancy improvements stall or even go into decline, questions about whether future increases in the state pension age should be implemented will inevitably grow louder.”
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I'm confused here. Is it fair making staff pay for meals out they'd not choose if they weren't working? It's not clear in the article.HindleA wrote:"was identified that some members of staff had made the people they supported pay for staff meals while on trips "
The that's what DLA/PIP is for ruse has been around since inception
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That not the most important thing brought up in the article, apologies, I didn't mean to imply any such thing.
I appreciated HindleA's post and responded to it.
I appreciated HindleA's post and responded to it.
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There's very little TV\radio coverage of Theresa May's Grimsby concert. Least said soonest mended?
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speaks volumes, scant coveragePorFavor wrote:There's very little TV\radio coverage of Theresa May's Grimsby concert. Least said soonest mended?
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In other words, the NI only backstop remains the real backstop, as it has been from the start. And instead of assuming NI to be unhappy with this, perhaps it's time the government, so determined to fulfil the "will of the people", actually asked the Northern Irish people what they think about all this. Because politicians risking "no deal" because May's deal will inevitably lead to some kind of border in the Irish Sea are currently making assumptions about the acceptability of that without really consulting the views of those who will be most affected - the Northern Irish themselves.Michel Barnier
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4/5 EU commits to give UK the option to exit the Single Customs Territory unilaterally, while the other elements of the backstop must be maintained to avoid a hard border. UK will not be forced into customs union against its will.
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What has come out of all of this is just how unfit for the modern world the UK's constitutional and democratic institutions truly are.
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HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... nts-letter
In a letter from more than 7,000 headteachers that is being sent to millions of families across England, the group says it has been rebuffed three times after approaching Hinds for a meeting, and wants parents to lobby their MPs and the government for more money to help schools.
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The heads’ letter...details the funding problems that state schools in England face, saying that since 2010 their budgets have been reduced on average by 8% in real terms, with cuts of 20% in funding for sixth form and post-16 students.The DfE did not respond to questions over why Hinds had been unable to meet the headteachers.
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“School funding in England is at its highest ever level, rising from almost £41bn in 2017-18 to £43.5bn by 2019-20.”
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We saw it in May’s infamous message that no deal was better than a bad deal (unfortunately one of the few pieces of her political messaging that cut through) – it was an attempt to shore up her position in her party. Now we see it in her speeches where, as in Grimsby, she refuses to answer questions that involve timescales much beyond a week.
An insane place where politics is done one day at a time – that’s Brexit Britain
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"Where does the school funding in England go?"
This question disappeared, but having spent time answering it I'm bringing it back, if citizenJA doesn't mind!
Well, for a start, if the school population gets bigger, then more money doesn't necessarily mean more funding per pupil.
John Humphries on R4 this morning quoted the DfE saying funding per pupil had gone up, though. Not sure since when, mind, there could have been earlier years when it went down we haven't recovered from yet.
Other contributing factors could be cuts elsewhere, such as capital spending (Labour's Building Schools for the Future programme, which injected a lot of extra cash, was one of the first austerity cuts) and SEND funding that comes from local councils.
Also extra costs, such as a rise in pension contributions making staff costs higher and possibly academisation, which in some cases has led to schools taking on extra back office costs that were once based at the LEA with multiple schools sharing the costs. In fact the local council cuts have had impacts on all sorts of odd things. Our local LEA maintained primary schools, for instance, used to get gardening services from the council. Due to cuts, the council got rid of much of its estates staff leaving the schools to get in private contractors which might be more expensive.
And then all those Academy trustees need paying, of course, along with all the consultancy fees to people connected to Academy trustees.
I'm sure others can think of further reasons why schools may be feeling the pinch, despite "more money than ever".
This question disappeared, but having spent time answering it I'm bringing it back, if citizenJA doesn't mind!
Well, for a start, if the school population gets bigger, then more money doesn't necessarily mean more funding per pupil.
John Humphries on R4 this morning quoted the DfE saying funding per pupil had gone up, though. Not sure since when, mind, there could have been earlier years when it went down we haven't recovered from yet.
Other contributing factors could be cuts elsewhere, such as capital spending (Labour's Building Schools for the Future programme, which injected a lot of extra cash, was one of the first austerity cuts) and SEND funding that comes from local councils.
Also extra costs, such as a rise in pension contributions making staff costs higher and possibly academisation, which in some cases has led to schools taking on extra back office costs that were once based at the LEA with multiple schools sharing the costs. In fact the local council cuts have had impacts on all sorts of odd things. Our local LEA maintained primary schools, for instance, used to get gardening services from the council. Due to cuts, the council got rid of much of its estates staff leaving the schools to get in private contractors which might be more expensive.
And then all those Academy trustees need paying, of course, along with all the consultancy fees to people connected to Academy trustees.
I'm sure others can think of further reasons why schools may be feeling the pinch, despite "more money than ever".
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Something that some of us were saying long before June 2016......Willow904 wrote: What has come out of all of this is just how unfit for the modern world the UK's constitutional and democratic institutions truly are
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I see Hodge is advocating closing Labour branches...
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Interesting video on Brexit and democracy.
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@Willow904
Thank you for the schools' funding information
Thank you for the schools' funding information
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YepPorFavor wrote:There's very little TV\radio coverage of Theresa May's Grimsby concert. Least said soonest mended?
Three sentences on the politics live blog elsewhere
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Sloppy elf swill gives Mark François a hard time on Politics Live (4,4).
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Glorious, wasn't it.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Sloppy elf swill gives Mark François a hard time on Politics Live (4,4).
As someone on Twitter mentioned, someone needs to show Francois a Venn diagram.
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May in GrimsbyAs she spoke – yet again – of Brexit as that political call to action by a people who have been ignored, whose “voices had never been heard”, here those people were, sitting right in front of her, decked from head to toe in orange hi vis. This time they could not go unnoticed.
Actually, yes they could. Not one of them got to say a word. They weren’t permitted to ask a single question.
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One local council byelection yesterday:
Aylesbury Vale DC - the first thing to note is that this was a seat last fought in 2015, thus a byelection may seem odd with the 2019 polls just weeks away but both in Buckinghamshire and Northamptonshire the district elections have been postponed in lieu of elections to new unitary authorities next year - so we may still be a bit away from the last 2015 vacancy being contested. The actual result was of interest too, as a ward which saw three Tories safely returned four years ago (the first post boundary change election, however the main predecessor ward had also been easily won by the Tories since 2007) this time returned a Green with over half the vote - an increase of some 35 points and a swing of over 20% since the last election which saw them only just finish runners up ahead of both Independents and UKIP - neither of whom stood this time. LibDems were little changed on 14%, whilst the first Labour candidate here for two decades was maybe handicapped by living some way outside the ward and polled less than 3%.
Three contests next week.
Aylesbury Vale DC - the first thing to note is that this was a seat last fought in 2015, thus a byelection may seem odd with the 2019 polls just weeks away but both in Buckinghamshire and Northamptonshire the district elections have been postponed in lieu of elections to new unitary authorities next year - so we may still be a bit away from the last 2015 vacancy being contested. The actual result was of interest too, as a ward which saw three Tories safely returned four years ago (the first post boundary change election, however the main predecessor ward had also been easily won by the Tories since 2007) this time returned a Green with over half the vote - an increase of some 35 points and a swing of over 20% since the last election which saw them only just finish runners up ahead of both Independents and UKIP - neither of whom stood this time. LibDems were little changed on 14%, whilst the first Labour candidate here for two decades was maybe handicapped by living some way outside the ward and polled less than 3%.
Three contests next week.
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...we are 21 days out from the date of scheduled EU departure, with or without a deal, and our apparent best idea is to just claim any old random bollocks. The backstop could breach the ECHR! No? OK, then: it contravenes the London Submarine Protocol of 1936. You don’t like that one? Fine, it’s against the laws of gin rummy. The second law of thermodynamics? How about Murphy’s law? LA Law? Denis Law?
Worried about Brexit? What, with these geniuses in charge?
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Better half used to pay for such,but that was her choice and generosity.It is the receiver's choice,for staff to so manipulate is pure unadulterated financial abuse. IMHO.When introduced I condemned and railed against such cynical and corrupt practice,far too common.IMHO.
Better half used to pay for such,but that was her choice and generosity.It is the receiver's choice,for staff to so manipulate is pure unadulterated financial abuse. IMHO.When introduced I condemned and railed against such cynical and corrupt practice,far too common.IMHO.
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Purpose cynically manipulated.Similarly "taxi" fares for lifts etc ) because "that is what it is for"of,was not uncommon.
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Care staff categorisation doesn't prevent being as equally shitty as anybody else.It can be a relatively easy way to feather your nest.
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Goodnight, everyone
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