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Thursday May 16th 2019

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Morning


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... s-grayling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Probation will be renationalised after disastrous Grayling reforms
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... 175m-homes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Labour reveals plans to fit solar panels to 1.75m homes
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Never liked the play off nonsense to be honest,if you don't automatically qualify over the whole season ,you shouldn't go up.And don't get me started on the European Cup.
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And the changed scoring in table tennis,badminton and squash..cont'd on page 92.
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HindleA wrote:Never liked the play off nonsense to be honest,if you don't automatically qualify over the whole season ,you shouldn't go up.And don't get me started on the European Cup.
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OK I won't ;-)
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Blank accord shredded, pardoned (6,5).
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Uproar in People's Vote world.

Cable has suggested a 3-way referendum between May, Remain, No Deal.
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What do we want? A People's Vote!

When do we want it? Now.

What are we voting on? Err....
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Scandalous discrimination against non people.
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HindleA wrote:Morning


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... s-grayling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Probation will be renationalised after disastrous Grayling reforms
Morning all.

Politics must be one of the few areas where its people don't seem to be aware that they might not be very good at it and quit to do something else.
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And talking of which...
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Good morning, everyone.
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HindleA wrote:---
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... s-grayling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Probation will be renationalised after disastrous Grayling reforms
Following years of damning criticism from MPs, inspectorates and former probation officers, the justice secretary, David Gauke, has decided to bring all offender management under the National Probation Service (NPS) by spring 2021. He said the private sector would still play a part in the provision of services, with £280m worth of contracts for rehabilitation services such as the provision of unpaid work....
(cJA edit)
Providing someone with unpaid work is called a rehabilitation service
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Starmer quashes speculation Labour could abstain on Brexit bill, saying it will vote against if no cross-party deal agreed
...at Brexit questions in the Commons this morning Sir Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, said the same. He told MPs:
If the prime minister’s deal is put [to a vote] for the a fourth time, if it’s allowed, it will fail, just as it’s failed three times already. But I want to make it clear that Labour opposes the idea of passing the withdrawal agreement bill without an agreed deal. That would put the cart before the horse. And Labour will vote against at second reading on that basis.
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Kebab who? RIP former Australian PM (3,5).
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Uproar in People's Vote world.

Cable has suggested a 3-way referendum between May, Remain, No Deal.
Decided by FPTP or preferential voting?
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Kebab who? RIP former Australian PM (3,5).
That's not how you spell 'Silver Bodgie'.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Uproar in People's Vote world.

Cable has suggested a 3-way referendum between May, Remain, No Deal.
Decided by FPTP or preferential voting?
Mr Cable said that his party would ideally like a three-way referendum, with the PM’s deal, Remain and leaving without a deal.

He said: “Well, I think there are various suggestions made about how you frame three options into questions and I think you would get a clear and unambiguous result.”
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/brexit-vote ... eferendum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Kebab who? RIP former Australian PM (3,5).
A sad loss, but the sympathy factor might help the ALP in the weekend's election?
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There's some excellent posts relating to Nick Timothy's latest...

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Nick%20 ... rend_click" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Yes, this is kinda weird...
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Under Islamic law, abortion is permissible up to the fourth month of pregnancy.

Maybe GOP state legislatures are so obsessed with banning "Sharia Law" because it isn't conservative enough.
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That is something I genuinely didn't know, and all the more surprising given how morally conservative Islamic law is in so many ways.
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Jack Maidment (@jrmaidment)
Understand the 1922 Committee executive has been sworn to secrecy until Sir Graham Brady has published his written statement on Theresa May's future.

Statement coming in next 15 minutes apparently.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... b474ebd00c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
no evidence of democratically accountable representation
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Just read Laura K on Brady

Apparently if May deal passes she gets to stay.

If it falls again she goes.
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Almost 1,500 children in England are locked up by the state at a cost of a third of a billion a year
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LBC

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Change UK's Joan Ryan: “Can you just look at your hands please?”

** everyone holds out their hands in front them **

“That’s it, it’s there, that's the answer to this. It's in your hands.”
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2:03 PM - May 16, 2019 (Politics Live, Guardian)
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Just read Laura K on Brady

Apparently if May deal passes she gets to stay.

If it falls again she goes.
Its seems that her "spokespersons" are already trying to row back on this. As some have said, its Groundhog Day!
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Just read Laura K on Brady

Apparently if May deal passes she gets to stay.

If it falls again she goes.
So.....she wants it to fail? :?
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Willow904 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Just read Laura K on Brady

Apparently if May deal passes she gets to stay.

If it falls again she goes.
So.....she wants it to fail? :?
What does May want? Does she know?
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Received an e-mail today from Jeremy Corbyn. All well and good so far as reasons for voting Labour (which I do) go. As for his EU election pitch . . .

I received the "Brexit" Party's leaflet today. Addressed, came delivered (don't know by whom, but I don't think it came by post) unencumbered by junk mail. Unlike Labour's.
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And a very belated good morfternoon.

Please pardon my lack of social graces.
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I haven't had any EU election stuff from anyone yet that I've noticed (if the Labour leaflet is going out with junkmail I might have missed it).

Turnout is going to be interesting, I think. I'm in the same region as Gibraltar, for instance, which has been left a bit high and dry by Brexit. Will there be a protest vote or will people stay home, fed up to the back teeth with it all?
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Willow904 wrote:I haven't had any EU election stuff from anyone yet that I've noticed (if the Labour leaflet is going out with junkmail I might have missed it).

Turnout is going to be interesting, I think. I'm in the same region as Gibraltar, for instance, which has been left a bit high and dry by Brexit. Will there be a protest vote or will people stay home, fed up to the back teeth with it all?
My Labour leaflet was in the middle of a Jacks flyer. Would have been very easy to miss. The only other one I've had was the Brexit Party, which was delivered separate and addressed (like PF's).
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HindleA wrote:Morning


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... s-grayling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Probation will be renationalised after disastrous Grayling reforms
Tories privatise, renationalise, throw people out their home, country, lift citizenship and sell any future left to hedge funders.

News today FRANTIC about this from Labour
https://www.labour.org.uk/wp-content/up ... e-2019.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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refitman wrote:
Willow904 wrote:I haven't had any EU election stuff from anyone yet that I've noticed (if the Labour leaflet is going out with junkmail I might have missed it).

Turnout is going to be interesting, I think. I'm in the same region as Gibraltar, for instance, which has been left a bit high and dry by Brexit. Will there be a protest vote or will people stay home, fed up to the back teeth with it all?
My Labour leaflet was in the middle of a Jacks flyer. Would have been very easy to miss. The only other one I've had was the Brexit Party, which was delivered separate and addressed (like PF's).
Same on the Labour party leaflet
I mentioned the Brexit Party leaflet arrival in the citizen household a couple days ago
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Goodnight, everyone.
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@citizenJA

Night night.
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