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Tuesday 25th June 2019

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Morning

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"NHS pays firms £181m to incarcerate and torture patients with serious mental illness"
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Re bedroom tax,only allowed one bedroom for two children even if it can only accommodate one.
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Twitter thread on Fishing in Ireland and a no withdrawal agreement UK exit
In summary, No Deal Brexit = tariffs, layers of admin, changes to supply chain, delays, EHC & Catch Certs for nearly all NI seafood exporters. Value of fresh fish reduces by the hour, 24hr EHC notice period will impact sales to ROI/EU. Jeopardises the entire industry
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Morning all.

A thread which appears to indicate that Johnson's claims this morning seem to be utter nonsense. Yes I was shocked...

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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

A thread which appears to indicate that Johnson's claims this morning seem to be utter nonsense. Yes I was shocked...

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Peston doing his actual job. You never know, it might catch on......
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Hmm "care",how about just "independence"?
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Good morning, everyone.
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Even if you haven't read any of Norman Stone's works (and I haven't since it's not my specialism) this is well wortha read.

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Looking like this government can't even try and move the writ for a byelection without messing it up.......
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Awesomely awesomeness of today making today awesomely awesome.
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Quiet today innit?

Hopefully my latest local byelection review will stimulate some interest - seven last week, including the last three countermanded polls from May:

South Ribble DC - the first deferred poll saw two Tory holds that ensured they became the biggest party in this now hung council - they took over 60% of the vote compared to 55% in the previous elections in 2015 (the first since boundary changes) Labour remained second, but dropped from a third of the vote four years ago to a quarter now. LibDems in third with a slight increase, but still a long way short of when they won the main predecessor ward in 2003 (before the Tories defeated them in 2007, being returned ever for this area ever since)

Forest of Dean DC - better news for the LibDems here in another deferred election, as they took two of the three seats in this newly drawn ward following major boundary changes (as has happened in other councils recently, the number of councillors has been significantly cut - not something this reviewer generally welcomes) though in a highly fragmented contest they only took around 27% overall. The other seat went to an Independent candidate who topped the poll here as they had done in a smaller predecessor ward at the previous 2015 election - but they took significantly more than the other two Independents in this contest did combined, which meant the Tories came closest to the LibDems - though given they usually won the previous elections here (with only Independents successfully breaking their dominance) this marks a sharp drop for them on previous form. Greens scored a respectable 20%, whilst behind the two also-ran Independents a solitary Labour candidate got 8%.

Salford - Labour gain from Tory with nearly 40% in the final delayed contest from last month's polls - meaning they now have a full slate of councillors for this ward for the first time since it split 2C/1Lab in the all-out elections back in 2004. Tories took the one Labour seat in 2008, but their full house was lost in 2012 when Labour gained a seat, they held this in 2016 and then took another Tory seat last year. Compared to that election there was actually a small pro-Tory swing (both parties down on a year ago but Labour - who took half the vote then - fell by a bit more) but a small pro-Labour swing since their previous win three years ago and of course a much bigger one since 2015. Greens best of the rest more than doubling their vote to 12%, LibDems also doubled their share from last year and finished just ahead of the UKIP candidate (who did not stand then) with 7%.

Neath/Port Talbot - the first of this weeks actual byelections saw an Independent hold with close to half the vote confirming their recent run in this single member ward - Labour were returned unopposed in 2004 and won in 2008, but after their incumbent stood down in 2012 an Independent won with Plaid Cymru a good second and Labour a poor third. At the most recent election in 2017 the incumbent Indy won by just one vote ahead of PC, not far ahead of another Independent and then Labour who increased their vote despite coming 4th. Plaid were beaten by over 2 to 1 this time however, with the unsuccessful Indy two years ago not far behind. Labour's support also halved to 2012 levels, but that was still impressive compared to the last placed LibDem who came last with just 1% - the old fewer voters than signatures trick again.

Merton - LibDem gain from Labour in a ward that split 2Lab/1C last time with the Tory topping the poll, meaning that all three "main" parties now represent this ward. A winning score of 35% was a 20 point increase on last year and a similar sized swing from both Labour and Tory - this ward is not one where they have previously been a significant factor save for finishing close behind Labour in 2010, though on that occasion the Tories were comfortable winners as they had been in 2006 and 2002 - and when Labour took all three seats here in 2014 it was something of a shock. Labour beat the Tories by just a handful of votes this time (in that respect at least, a similar result to 2018) followed by a Green on 5% in their first showing here since 2002, and finally UKIP whose 2% was actually over double what they got a year ago.

Wandsworth - Labour hold with just under half the vote, though that is down markedly from the around 65% they got last year when their big push to take this Tory "flagship" only narrowly failed. Almost predictably, it was the LibDems who were the main cause of this decline, their 24% up a full 20 points on a year ago. Tories took two out of three seats here in 2002 and held one in 2006, but have fallen away majorly since then and their decline continued now as they dropped to 18%. Greens also slightly down on 2018, in contrast to other recent results.

Isle of Wight - Tory gain from Independent with 35% of the vote, a 9 point increase on two years ago. After voting Tory in 2009, this ward returned an Independent by big margins in both 2013 and 2017 - making it all the more surprising that they were relegated to third this time behind the LibDems who scored around 20%, 15 points up on last time. Labour also modestly increased to nearly 16% now, well ahead of a localist "Island Independent" and finally UKIP who scored over 4% in their first outing here.

Just one contest on Thursday to end the month.
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