Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Wednesday 31st July 2019
Morning all.
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Good morning.
Here's an excellent, comprehensive thread on the Irish border, I don't think I'll ever understand how there are people who know all this and still think Brexit is a good idea.
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Not so much Johnson but definitely Patel.Jess Brammar
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Do you just have moments when you remember that Boris Johnson is the prime minister, and Priti Patel is the Home Secretary
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Here's an excellent, comprehensive thread on the Irish border, I don't think I'll ever understand how there are people who know all this and still think Brexit is a good idea.
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Well, Priti Patel didn't appoint herself.
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indeed.
I think it's just that we've been hearing about the possibility of Johnson being PM for years. Patel as HS never crossed my mind. Shows how far we've come.
I think it's just that we've been hearing about the possibility of Johnson being PM for years. Patel as HS never crossed my mind. Shows how far we've come.
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gilsey's link (above) to the David Henig thingy is well worth a read!
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Apparently both Sanders and Warren were very good in the Dems debate this morning.
In particular, the latter calling out those of her fellow hopefuls who simply tell us why we CAN'T do things.
An affliction that very much affects "moderates" and "centrists" this side of the pond too.
In particular, the latter calling out those of her fellow hopefuls who simply tell us why we CAN'T do things.
An affliction that very much affects "moderates" and "centrists" this side of the pond too.
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In the Tory thick World of their imagination ,death and other out of own control vagaries of are a deliberate choice.To teach the enacting wankers to take responsibility,all should pay back what they received they deny others with interest and a tattoo on the forehead "Turd-by lifestyle choice"
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As much as "I'm a Christian" by some is deployed as cover ,it equally acts at self-deception IMHO
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[youtube]5f8z1NAzMlI[/youtube]HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -131553505
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"Do unto others what others didn't do unto you"
The mere application of thought should quickly display the fakery
The mere application of thought should quickly display the fakery
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To be fair at least Forsyth actually mentioned half spend is working age,a welcome truth in the often than not total bollox.
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Always good to see you posting AH - I wonder if the forum can manage any contributions after teatime today
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A lot of the shenanigans of the original EU referendum were novel, catching our electoral commission and archaic electoral law offguard, but what happens now especially after Cambridge Analytica and data manipulation have been exposed? Can the same chancers pull off a similar trick to keep Johnson in power and get hard Brexit over the line? It's clear they've got a plan and a whole heap of money but how critical is the element of surprise to pulling off such plans when the detriment to the country's interests are clear?Labour acts on risk of 'dark money' from Farage-led lobbyists
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I'm still sceptical as to how much difference they really made in 2016, though acting to curb such things is right in principle anyway.
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You don't break electoral law to co-ordinate the spending of vast sums of money on obscure Canadian company AIQ for no reason. Arron Banks didn't make the biggest ever UK political donation thinking it wasn't necessary and wouldn't make a difference.
Only when it's acknowledged that the uneven spending of money and illegal activity does affect political outcomes and thus undermines democracy will steps be taken to prevent it. This isn't like the small, widespread overspends of the past, where all sides were at it to some degree and thus effects were mostly balanced out. One side gave itself an edge through novel illegal activity to win. When that happens in F1, if the rules aren't tightened up to effectively close the loophole, all competitors inevitably have to employ the same or similar cheat if they are to have any chance of winning. An "honest" win becomes impossible.
Only when it's acknowledged that the uneven spending of money and illegal activity does affect political outcomes and thus undermines democracy will steps be taken to prevent it. This isn't like the small, widespread overspends of the past, where all sides were at it to some degree and thus effects were mostly balanced out. One side gave itself an edge through novel illegal activity to win. When that happens in F1, if the rules aren't tightened up to effectively close the loophole, all competitors inevitably have to employ the same or similar cheat if they are to have any chance of winning. An "honest" win becomes impossible.
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Anybody for tonight, then?
(cJA, ROT for example)
(cJA, ROT for example)
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Twitter thread:
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There is an urgent need for simplified and modernised electoral law. Today we are giving evidence to
@CommonsPACAC about the changes we want to see and the risks we face if laws are not updated.
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I didn't leave t'library until 8pm!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Anybody for tonight, then?
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I did see Slough general trending while I was briefly on that twitter...dearie me.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Thanks for the Slough mention. I wasn't aware of that story until you brought it to my attention.RogerOThornhill wrote:I didn't leave t'library until 8pm!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Anybody for tonight, then?
(cJA, ROT for example)
I did see Slough general trending while I was briefly on that twitter...dearie me.
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Fingers crossed for a Conservative loss in tomorrow's by-election.
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Some people have been trying to talk up their chances today.PorFavor wrote:Fingers crossed for a Conservative loss in tomorrow's by-election.
Don't see it myself.
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