Saturday 2nd & Sunday 3rd November 2019
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Ah well, my South African mate is happy ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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The super-rich making a Labour government more likely with this announcement
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Seriously, what would regular people lose? What meaningful, wholesome contributions do the super-rich make?
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They're no fun at all.
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Well, glad that someone has showed up ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
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If people are expected to trade their time, effort, skill and labour for necessary and nice things, proper training and fair pay must be forthcoming. Capitalists must manage the economic system safely, behave respectfully and responsibly. That's not an unreasonable expectation.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ment-rules
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I can see and hear my dad laughing at me and calling me a communist. I don't remember feeling bad about that; it was good-natured laughter. He wasn't shaming me. I was a serious kid. He could be a mean bastard but my siblings and I concluded he'd married the wrong woman. Our mother is difficult.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well, glad that someone has showed up
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Watched an old Dalziel and Pascoe this morning. Started with footage of Maggie going on about how the rule of law would have to prevail over the rule of the mob.
Found it all a bit ironic.
Found it all a bit ironic.
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UK governments' rules and laws not benefiting 'the mob' but a small number of peopletinyclanger2 wrote:Watched an old Dalziel and Pascoe this morning. Started with footage of Maggie going on about how the rule of law would have to prevail over the rule of the mob.
Found it all a bit ironic.
There's nothing in the UK constitution stopping a UK government with numbers enough to pass or repeal any law they want
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Even so, the Lords can sometimes be surprisingly effective in keeping a majority government in check. If they want to be certain of getting a law passed, they need to put it in their manifesto or risk the Lords rejecting it. It's not much of a backstop, admittedly, but since the Lords reforms under Blair, the Tories have faced more challenges and amendments from the upper chamber than they did back in Thatcher's day.citizenJA wrote:UK governments' rules and laws not benefiting 'the mob' but a small number of peopletinyclanger2 wrote:Watched an old Dalziel and Pascoe this morning. Started with footage of Maggie going on about how the rule of law would have to prevail over the rule of the mob.
Found it all a bit ironic.
There's nothing in the UK constitution stopping a UK government with numbers enough to pass or repeal any law they want
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Swinson complaining that ITV have chosen the wrong Tory leader,or something.
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Treating the rule of law as almost an optional extra will hurt the Tories in the long run, beyond doubt.tinyclanger2 wrote:Watched an old Dalziel and Pascoe this morning. Started with footage of Maggie going on about how the rule of law would have to prevail over the rule of the mob.
Found it all a bit ironic.
The real question is if it does in the next six weeks......
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nitwit statement from LeadsomCalls are growing for the next government to make the suspension of fracking in England permanent after a minister suggested the halt to exploration may only be temporary.
...the business secretary, Andrea Leadsom, made it clear that the moratorium was only in place “until the science changes. It is quite clear that we can’t be certain. The science isn’t accurate enough to be able to assess the fault lines, the geological studies have been shown to be inaccurate and therefore unless, and until we can be absolutely certain we are imposing a moratorium.”
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I'm grateful for your reminder. I'd forgotten the Lords and party manifestos.Willow904 wrote:Even so, the Lords can sometimes be surprisingly effective in keeping a majority government in check. If they want to be certain of getting a law passed, they need to put it in their manifesto or risk the Lords rejecting it. It's not much of a backstop, admittedly, but since the Lords reforms under Blair, the Tories have faced more challenges and amendments from the upper chamber than they did back in Thatcher's day.citizenJA wrote:UK governments' rules and laws not benefiting 'the mob' but a small number of peopletinyclanger2 wrote:Watched an old Dalziel and Pascoe this morning. Started with footage of Maggie going on about how the rule of law would have to prevail over the rule of the mob.
Found it all a bit ironic.
There's nothing in the UK constitution stopping a UK government with numbers enough to pass or repeal any law they want
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What's going on with Electoral Calculus, please? Shocking. I'm only a little consoled by the admission their 2017 GE prediction was incredibly wrong.
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Electoral Calculus is barely any better than "Best For Britain", and has always been that bad.
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Talking of the election I saw this yesterday...
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A parishioner, a plumber, was working today when two Tory canvassers asked if they could rely on his vote. When he said he would be voting Lib Dem or Green, and explained why, one said “you and your sort are the reason this country’s in the mess it’s in today”. Which was nice.
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If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Fair enough,it is not as if the Tory bastard Party has ever been part of a misgovernment.
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Born on the same day as me,the Rev.I was never knowingly in the Communards
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At current rate of progress Leeds will win their last home games well into double figures.
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The curse if there was one has been truly lifted(but will it return)
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Highlights on Quest TV,I didn't even know until recently that the channel existed.
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I still do the waiting for the twenty seven repeats thing whilst watching live
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To be fair they have made it a 24/7 perpetually in crisis service,as promised.
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Lower than the lowest vermin unimaginable.
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The usual "unintended "bullshit.
The usual "unintended "bullshit.
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No Government should have even considered,of course.
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No Government should have even contemplated
No Government should have even contemplated
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There /was/is no economic or moral justification that stands the barest of scrutiny.
No for or against,pros and cons,on the one hand and the other.Presenting a "balanced"view of the unbalanceable is not only disingenuous but reprehensibly irresponsible.
No for or against,pros and cons,on the one hand and the other.Presenting a "balanced"view of the unbalanceable is not only disingenuous but reprehensibly irresponsible.
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Purposefully enacted targeted harm is purposefully enacted targeted harm and far from the only one of course.
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"Boris Johnson’s senior adviser Dominic Cummings is facing questions from Labour over his past in Russia after an apparent whistleblower came forward with “serious concerns”."
"Boris Johnson’s senior adviser Dominic Cummings is facing questions from Labour over his past in Russia after an apparent whistleblower came forward with “serious concerns”."
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Some things are absolute
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The I can't believe some think we're not Tories Party's Alexander nearly gave the game away in the non relevant comparison between benefit receivers and workers,when of course for many it was a doubly whammy.They were perfectly aware.
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No overall cap on the amount of bullshit.
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Benefits freeze to end in 2020, government confirms
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Good morning, everyone.
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enmity & divisionMPs warned to not go out alone or after dark during general election
Public anger over Brexit, as well as prospect of campaigning in the dark, has led to safety concerns
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Brexit and this GE are Tory party decisions foisted on us all
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Something repeatedly announced before now, but given top billing on the BBC "news" page this morning.citizenJA wrote:Benefits freeze to end in 2020, government confirms
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Did Labour and the LibDems not also support (or at least not, not support) the GE?
I had thought the plan was to go for a referendum before any GE but that appeared to suddenly cave.
I had thought the plan was to go for a referendum before any GE but that appeared to suddenly cave.
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Helena Bonham Carter defends Cameron as a decent man who has ... an amazing ability to withstand pressure.
"I don't think he's a "run-awayer"" she said.
"I don't think he's a "run-awayer"" she said.
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Johnson tried repealing that two-thirds fixed term Parliament thing for a GE, failed, then tabled their legislation for a GE requiring nothing more than a simple majority. Can someone explain the device Johnson used, please? Tory government pulled their WA and are hustling nation and people into an intentionally created tough spot.tinyclanger2 wrote:Did Labour and the LibDems not also support (or at least not, not support) the GE?
I had thought the plan was to go for a referendum before any GE but that appeared to suddenly cave.
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oh for chrissaketinyclanger2 wrote:Helena Bonham Carter defends Cameron as a decent man who has ... an amazing ability to withstand pressure.
"I don't think he's a "run-awayer"" she said.
Is the woman aware he bolted over three years ago?
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To be fair it did needed to be confirmed given suspension of budget but agree about prominence/presentation.